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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Writer Ribbon awarded for for his article contributions to the community Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Thu 11-Jul-13 04:58 PM
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"The newest high megapixel camera - Nokia 1020 Smartphone"


Atlanta, US
          

The 41 megapixel Nokia 1020 is the new leader for high resolution images - and its a smartphone.

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/nokia-lumia-1020/4505-6452_7-35822762.html

One of the interesting features - and I don't fully understand it - is an oversampling process that provides loss free zooming on a 5 megapixel image.

Clearly the camera wars are at work in the smartphone market. This may be where Nikon enters the market with some sort of smartphone. The concept of oversampling can be used in a number of ways - including extending dynamic range or extending focus. If you can do it in software, they can move the software to the phone.


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ZoneV Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2005Fri 12-Jul-13 04:05 AM
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#1. "RE: The newest high megapixel camera - Nokia 1020 Smartphone"
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How is that loss free?

Down-rezzing is known to reduce noise, and you wouldn't get that benefit when using the crop-tele.

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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Writer Ribbon awarded for for his article contributions to the community Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Fri 12-Jul-13 12:02 PM
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I'm not sure of what they are doing. But I can see the ability to capture and assemble multiple images and then combine them in software. Nikon does this with a blank frame for long exposure noise reduction. If you extend that idea to exposure, you get in camera HDR. It sounds like this is a composite image of some sort done in-camera.

In any event, I'm interested in hearing more.

The resolution on the sample image is pretty impressive.


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migs Basic MemberFri 12-Jul-13 11:18 AM
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High pixel counts aren't new to Nokia phones. The Pureview 808 had the same sensor about 18 months ago. As a natural sceptic, my first thought was not how good it would be, but how bad. Anyway, here's a link to a full size image -

Nokia 41mp

Although there is some softness at 100%, it's really quite impressive, especially for a phone. The softness is likely caused by whatever noise reduction they're employing.

I don't pretend to understand the maths of it all, mind you.

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Fri 12-Jul-13 11:22 AM
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I can't get your link to work, Paul.

Brian
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migs Basic MemberFri 12-Jul-13 11:27 AM
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Try c&p the address -

http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/uploads/mediaplugin/photo/climbing-in-south-africa-2-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg

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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Writer Ribbon awarded for for his article contributions to the community Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Wed 17-Jul-13 06:52 PM
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#6. "RE: The newest high megapixel camera - Nokia 1020 Smartphone"
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Here is a dpreview article:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/6384275680/nokia-lumia-1020-preview

At $299 I expect ATT users will be very willing to give it a try. I liked the suggested grip and the Windows 8 interface. That probably translates into some great post processing options in the device. The term in-camera seems to understate the power of this tiny device.

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PeterBeckett Gold Member Nikonian since 04th Jan 2010Fri 19-Jul-13 12:51 AM
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#7. "RE: The newest high megapixel camera - Nokia 1020 Smartphone"
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San Jose, US
          

Hi Eric,
Yeah - but who would want to be seen taking a picture with a TELEPHONE?

- or am I just old-fashioned?

Pete
PS. The image looks pretty good!
PPS. I'd only get one of these if it came bundled with an adapter that allowed me to use my 400/2.8 and get a full-frame close-up of the man in the moon!

  

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rectangularimage Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Oct 2009Fri 19-Jul-13 09:10 PM
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#8. "RE: The newest high megapixel camera - Nokia 1020 Smartphone"
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As mentioned the 41meg on a Nokia is not new, and I think all those pixels are a good idea.

The target output is for online use, so the 41meg can be down-sampled to reduce noise (and increase dynamic range?) or crop-zoomed.

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