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Sportymonk Registered since 16th Jul 2007Thu 09-May-13 02:19 AM
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"Color Runs can ruin your gear"


Rocky Mount, US
          

.... These pictures are, of course, after the lens was cleaned externally. All of that dust is inside the front and rear elements.

A number of lenses, including Canon L’s and Nikon Pro lenses had to go to the factory, and at least one has been given the “financially not feasable to repair” sticker.

WOW! Pro level gear damaged by dust this fine.



http://petapixel.com/2013/05/08/photographing-a-color-run-will-destroy-your-camera-gear-dont-do-it/

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SheriB Silver Member Awarded for sharing her exceptional images and details of rural farm life. Nikonian since 11th Sep 2010Thu 09-May-13 10:58 AM
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I always wondered when I saw pics of this type of event...plus what it does to your lungs..and sinuses..

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Philadelphia, US
          

I wrote to The Color Run organization and asked precisely what was the color thrown on the runners. Within a couple of hours I got a courteous and very detailed reply email telling me precisely what the color is.

"The color is a corn starch base and is dyed with food grade dyes. It is even Gluten free.

Here is a list of the ingredients in our color:

Blue - FD and C Blue 1 Lake Low, Melojel Starch.

Green - FD and C Blue 1 Lake Low, FD and C Yellow Lake 36-42 PCT, Melojel Starch.

Pink - FD and C Red 40 Lake 36-42PCT, Melojel Starch.

Yellow - FD and C Yellow 5 lake 36-42 PC, Melojel Starch."

So, the main ingredient is Melojel Starch, which is a high quality, food grade, corn starch. It has a very silky texture which would make it ideal for the base of these colors which they essentially throw at the runners.

This is what its Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) says, "While cornstarch is commonly used in cooking, you should avoid eating or drinking large quantities of cornstarch. Do not get cornstarch dust in your eyes. Avoid inhaling cornstarch dust when using. If one of these exposures happens, provide treatment as indicated. If irritation continues, contact your physician."

I took a look at the Food Grade food dyes which they use, and are listed above.

The Blue is the most interesting from a toxicology standpoint, in that it's been banned in several European countries over the years despite getting the okay from EU health officials.

All the food dyes used state the following on their MSDS, "Dust inhalation may cause respiratory irritation. Solid particles on the eye (powder/dust) may cause pain and be accompanied by irritation. Repeated or prolonged skin contact may cause irritation."

"Caution must be exercised by the prudent use of protective equipment and handling procedures to minimize exposure."

Okay, I'm aware that MSDS sheets are notorious for overstating problems, but I don't think it's the case here.

At the same time, it would appear the The Color Run does just the opposite. In their FAQ, it states, "The Color Run explosions are basically food grade cornstarch and are 100% natural and SAFE. As with any substance, you want to keep it out of your eyes and our “certified” color throwers make sure to aim low as you pass by."

Talk about malarkey.


  1. While the color is "food grade" and mostly made of corn starch, that's not the only ingredient in the colors. There is also the food dye.
  2. The corn starch may be 100% natural, but the food dye isn't.
  3. Just because something is 100% natural, whatever that actually means, that doesn't translate into it being "SAFE." Benzene is a naturally occurring substance, and exposure to it can cause cancer.
  4. If you're allergic to these ingredients, enough of it on your skin, in your eyes, etc., could bring on very serious anaphylaxic shock. That can kill some people. And the big problem is that many who are seriously allergic to the color, don't know it. That raises the stakes significantly.
  5. If the color throwers are aiming low, how come almost every photo of contestants on the Color Run website show them covered all over their faces with the color, as well as most of the rest of their body?

Bottom line, I wouldn't consider going in one of their races, or even photographing it.

I'm not even going to talk about the fact that they are a profit making company, making no bones about that, I should add, and apparently very little money from what they make at each race actually goes to charity.

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dagoldst Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Dec 2012Thu 09-May-13 11:51 AM
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#2. "RE: Color Runs can ruin your gear"
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Little Rock, US
          

Interesting article. I wonder what they make the powder out of?

David

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Richmond, US
          

Reading some of the comments over at LensRentals.com, it seems that the powder is colored corn starch or some derivative thereof.

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McAllen, US
          

Oh snap!!

I always wanted to go shoot the Festival of Colors in India. Maybe not!

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Wow that is scarey!!! Thanks for the warning!

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the comment about lungs it pertinent... thanks for the heads up on this..

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Fri 10-May-13 09:21 PM by ScottChapin

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I don't think I'd even have second thoughts about shooting in conditions like that without the camera being in a hermetically sealed bag! I'd wear a mask too.

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#8. "RE: Color Runs can ruin your gear"
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I shot a colour run here in Perth.. my glass (and lungs) are fine...

however - there was a strong wind that day and I didn't have a cover so I spent most of my time being "up wind" and not getting into the thick of it. The 'pros' just had little plastic bag things over their gear, they seemed more worried about their clothes getting covered in colour


I suspect that most of the cornstarch actually gets trapped by mucous before it reaches your lungs, being very fine and highly absorbent, what might get through would be no more damaging than walking through a field of corn (or the equivalent).

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ZoneV Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2005Sat 11-May-13 07:15 PM
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Oh my God.

And I thought polo arenas were bad.

An undeniable paradox: To think that there is any such thing as an absolute rule is at worst naïve, and at best, shortsighted. There is no such thing as an always-true, all context- or situation-salient, absolute rule that always holds true…including this one!

  

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That's good to know. Thanks for posting.

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#11. "RE: Color Runs can ruin your gear"
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Atlanta, US
          

Here's the link to the article at LensRentals.com
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/05/how-to-ruin-your-gear-in-5-minutes-without-water

It's not surprising that they have now excluded insurance coverage on damage from Color Run and similar events. I suspect pros that photograph Color Run have learned to use rented gear rather than personal gear.



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Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012Sun 12-May-13 02:18 PM
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#12. "RE: Color Runs can ruin your gear"
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Omaha, US
          

Looks like fun! I see that there is one in my city in a couple of weeks.

I am SOOOO going! I guess I'll try wrapping my camera in some sort of plastic bag first.

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Send us photos of your lenses and camera afterwards.

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Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012Mon 13-May-13 05:33 PM
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#14. "RE: Color Runs can ruin your gear"
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Mon 13-May-13 05:57 PM by Omaha

Omaha, US
          

If I can come away with a collection like this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/sets/72157629801645943/with/7664933294/

...I will consider it well worth it, even if I end up with some dust.

Its just a camera. Taking pictures is what its for.

...but I still plan on wrapping it in plastic, since I plan on getting in the middle of the dust-cloud as much as possible!

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Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012Tue 14-May-13 06:52 PM
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#15. "RE: Color Runs can ruin your gear"
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Omaha, US
          

Extremely cool photoshoot using the same colored powder:

http://blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2013/05/color-photograph-samsung-series-9-monitor/

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Instead of Festival of Color it should be called Festival of Ruined Glass.

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