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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberMon 27-Feb-12 01:40 PM
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"Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
Mon 27-Feb-12 04:39 PM by Covey22

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...especially since the phone's primary display screen is a relatively paltry and low-res 360x640! You can't even appreciate the resolving power of the image until you offload it. Of course, the target audience is most likely NOT going to post-process it but instead directly upload to a social media or into e-mail. Presumably, the onboard logic is smart enough to downsize the photos before allowing transmission.

http://mashable.com/2012/02/27/nokia-808-pureview/

Edited to add - looks like they got some bragging rights - with a sensor close to the size of the CX on the Nikon J1/V1!

http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia-808-pureview-first-sample-shots/#4847871

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mwhals Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2004Mon 27-Feb-12 05:43 PM
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#1. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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A D200 is better than any mobile phone 10 mp camera, so I say the D800 will still be better than the 41 mp mobile phone camera.

I will note that those two people in the sample images are NUTS! There is no way you will see me hanging on the side of a mountain.

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberMon 27-Feb-12 05:50 PM
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#2. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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Mon 27-Feb-12 05:51 PM by Covey22

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Being a former "nuts" person (you'd find me hanging off the White Mountains in NH until real life and responsibilities caught up to me) - they're quite the showoff - esp. the gent hanging with one hand while he's casually chalking up the other for his next handhold. I could never do a single point hold on a good day and I was always taught to have at least three points of good hold - the safety rope and nearest piton point don't count!

Having just finished evaluating a J1 for another enthusiast site, I have to say that the Nokia's results are very impressive if they are even close to out-of-camera/phone and the sensor sizes are indeed comparable.

One problem - the phone's display is a relatively paltry 300x600 or so - you can't even begin to appreciate the photos until you download them somewhere and view on a larger display.

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esantos Moderator Nikonians Resources Writer. Recognized for his outstanding reviews on printers and printing articles. Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas, including Landscape Photography Awarded for his extraordinary accomplishments in Landscape Photography. His work has been exhibited at the Smithsonian. Nikonian since 10th Nov 2002Mon 27-Feb-12 06:47 PM
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#3. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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Of course, the target audience is most likely NOT going to post-process it but instead directly upload to a social media or into e-mail.

Do that a few times and if you are on AT&T you'll get throttled.

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberMon 27-Feb-12 07:36 PM
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#5. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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Yep - the phone apparently automatically (or at user discretion) downsizes the images into 8MP or lower increments. But it does automagically enforces a downsizing. Heck, think about the average phone user - they have at least a hundred photos they keep on the camera, period. And these are the folks who don't usually file manage but just keep the photos on their SIM or XD card and migrate from phone to phone.

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#4. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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How in the world can you make good use of that many mxpxls with a crummy little lens? Once you are over around 12mp the lens determines the quality of the photo more than the sensor.

Now lets see them put a 70-200/2.8/VRII on that baby!

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberMon 27-Feb-12 07:42 PM
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#6. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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I don't know that Zeiss would allow it to be branded as such if it's a crummy little lens. Then again, the photos from Engadget link speak for themselves. If that's a crummy little lens, let's get it on my pre-paid no-contract Android. I'm ready!

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Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009Tue 28-Feb-12 06:28 PM
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#7. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..."
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Vantaa, FI
          

Because the thingy was designed by Finns, it has aroused great interest here. Based on what I have gathered from the press and various blogs, the idea was never to advertise this as a 41-megapixel camera. Instead the idea was to drop the current champion of smartphone cameras, Nokia N8, to the second place. And this is what they did.

What the new Nokia thing does is massive downsampling, at different ratios, after capture. At the wide-angle settings, when the entire sensor area is used, the downsampling can be as high as 7 to 1. At tele settings, when only a small portion of the sensor is used, the downsampling is lower or skipped entirely. The resulting images are about 5 Mp in size, but the quality is excellent, at least for a smartphone. The idea is to make the best possible digital zoom for a camera without optical zoom. When the Nokia N8 was announced, over a year ago, a photography-related web site showed pictures taken with the Nokia N8 and some real pocket-sized cameras side by side, and the audience voted the Nokia pictures best of the bunch. The new Nokia 808 is reportedly much better than the previous smartphone camera champion.

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