"Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..." Mon 27-Feb-12 04:39 PM by Covey22
...especially since the phone's primary display screen is a relatively paltry and low-res 360x640! You can't even appreciate the resolving power of the image until you offload it. Of course, the target audience is most likely NOT going to post-process it but instead directly upload to a social media or into e-mail. Presumably, the onboard logic is smart enough to downsize the photos before allowing transmission.
#2. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..." In response to Reply # 1 Mon 27-Feb-12 05:51 PM by Covey22
Being a former "nuts" person (you'd find me hanging off the White Mountains in NH until real life and responsibilities caught up to me) - they're quite the showoff - esp. the gent hanging with one hand while he's casually chalking up the other for his next handhold. I could never do a single point hold on a good day and I was always taught to have at least three points of good hold - the safety rope and nearest piton point don't count!
Having just finished evaluating a J1 for another enthusiast site, I have to say that the Nokia's results are very impressive if they are even close to out-of-camera/phone and the sensor sizes are indeed comparable.
One problem - the phone's display is a relatively paltry 300x600 or so - you can't even begin to appreciate the photos until you download them somewhere and view on a larger display.
#5. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..." In response to Reply # 3
Yep - the phone apparently automatically (or at user discretion) downsizes the images into 8MP or lower increments. But it does automagically enforces a downsizing. Heck, think about the average phone user - they have at least a hundred photos they keep on the camera, period. And these are the folks who don't usually file manage but just keep the photos on their SIM or XD card and migrate from phone to phone.
#6. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..." In response to Reply # 4
I don't know that Zeiss would allow it to be branded as such if it's a crummy little lens. Then again, the photos from Engadget link speak for themselves. If that's a crummy little lens, let's get it on my pre-paid no-contract Android. I'm ready!
#7. "RE: Smartphone with 41MP camera - The Madness Continues..." In response to Reply # 0
Because the thingy was designed by Finns, it has aroused great interest here. Based on what I have gathered from the press and various blogs, the idea was never to advertise this as a 41-megapixel camera. Instead the idea was to drop the current champion of smartphone cameras, Nokia N8, to the second place. And this is what they did.
What the new Nokia thing does is massive downsampling, at different ratios, after capture. At the wide-angle settings, when the entire sensor area is used, the downsampling can be as high as 7 to 1. At tele settings, when only a small portion of the sensor is used, the downsampling is lower or skipped entirely. The resulting images are about 5 Mp in size, but the quality is excellent, at least for a smartphone. The idea is to make the best possible digital zoom for a camera without optical zoom. When the Nokia N8 was announced, over a year ago, a photography-related web site showed pictures taken with the Nokia N8 and some real pocket-sized cameras side by side, and the audience voted the Nokia pictures best of the bunch. The new Nokia 808 is reportedly much better than the previous smartphone camera champion.