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darrellyoung Registered since 21st Apr 2006Sun 24-Aug-03 04:10 PM
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Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore!


©Darrell Young

The debate is over. Who won? We did!

In the late 60's my dear mother gave me a plastic Diana-F camera, and got me started on a lifetime of photography. I carried it with me on childhood hikes in the mountains of Rockwood, Tennessee. The image below is from one of those hikes.

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My brother Steven is on the left, and my old school friend Scott Haley is on the right. It's been maybe 28 years since I've seen Scott, and I know very little about his current life. But, I still have these images to remember those good times. At 45 years of age, I'm thinking more about the "good old days." They were indeed good, and much simpler than life today.

I bet you could go to your closet and dig out some old pictures of you and your friends from years ago. How do they make you feel? What are they worth to you?

What has this to do with Digital vs. Film? A lot actually! About a year ago, I bought my first digital SLR camera, a Nikon® D100 six-megapixel wonder. Since then, I've been shooting a higher quantity of images, and have even improved on my technique, due to the instant image review that a digital provides. For about twelve months, I've simply reveled in digital imaging, using my film cameras very little. I think I became a bit of a fanatic and wrote several articles proclaiming the imminent death of film, and that digital would now take over the world. I'd been writing articles for digital users only, and so, was able to take liberties with my words, generally denegrating film usage. Not many digital users complained, since I was reaffirming their decision to use digital in the first place. Then, with great boldness, I decided I would post some articles where they would be read by many non-digital users. I felt that I just had to get the message across to the ones who clearly didn't understand. One article in particular was posted in a general forum of a large camera users group (I'll not mention where <SMILE>). I expected that my feelings would be appreciated there also, since most people are at least considering digital photography. Whew, was I wrong!

The outcry from that article reflected a lot of strong feelings on the debate. Film is indeed NOT dead, as I was proclaiming in my articles. I read those replies, and thought about them. Then, I had an epiphany. I realized that photography is NOT about digital, or film. It is about making images. Duh!

I went to the kitchen table with my camera bags, and put the cameras in front of me. My D100 was there, my Nikon® N80 (non-USA F80) and F5, my Agfa Isolette III 120 folder. I handled each camera, looked through the viewfinder, opened the backs, fired off the shutters, and generally just absorbed the personality of each of my friendly cameras. My heart changed! My digital D100 was still an exciting newcomer, but my film cameras were comforting old friends. I had been carrying a small camera bag almost everywhere, with only my D100 and a couple of lenses. My bag had room for one more body, so I selected the N80. I went to the freezer and took out a couple of rolls of Provia. Even the film felt comfortable to me. So many hundreds of rolls over the years. So many good memories frozen in the little two inch squares of my slides. I went to my cabinets and took out old slides, wiped the dust from my light table, and spent an hour just looking. Memories flooded in, and with it my digital enthusiasm lessened somewhat. Balance returned!

For several days afterward, I carried both of the cameras. I would take several digital images, then one or two on film. It felt good. I was using the best of both worlds. I was making digital images for immediate use, and film images for maximum quality, and safe long-term storage. I realized that, with film, I didn't have to worry about my hard drive crashing and taking out several thousand images. If all the electricity went off, I could still view my slides by candlelight. I had another epiphany. To my amazement, I realized that I wouldn't have to worry about constantly backing up the digital images I was storing, if I had the same images on film. Today, I am a changed man!

No longer am I a digital photographer. Nor, am I just a film photographer. I am...a photographer. I take pictures! I'm a winner in this debate. I want film and digital. I want my images to last forever. I'll put them on film and digital for the rest of my life.

To me, this debate is over. No longer will I put my standard saying at the bottom of my articles. "Keep on taking digital pictures" has been replaced with "Keep on capturing time!" That's what this is all about. We're capturing history. The history of ourselves, our families, and even the world.

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When we are long gone, our images will remain. They'll tell the story that we want them to tell. Each of us is leaving a little of himself or herself for posterity. Whether it is done on film, or digitally doesn't matter. That we DO IT is what is important. Don't be swayed by these debates. Don't weigh in with a flaming argument in photography forums.

You are a photographer; one of the chosen few. You are the one appointed to tell your story, and the story of your family. Your eye sees a part of history that should be remembered. Digital vs. Film is an anachronism already. We all won the debate!

Keep on capturing time...

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RF70donator silver memberSilver Nikonian since 27th May 2002Sun 24-Aug-03 04:55 PM
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BIG THANK YOU for your article.
Please keep writting.


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TheMohaveKid Registered since 11th Jun 2002Sun 24-Aug-03 05:14 PM
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Hoooorayyyy !!!! .... and there was Great Rejoice ......throughout the land.

"The creative act is not performed by the artist alone; the spectator brings the work in contact with the external world by deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus adds his contribution to the creative act."

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Bowie, US
          

Good for you! You saw the light, properly measured it, and captured an image. Although I shoot digital more and more, I also "double shoot" - with my Fuji S2 and my trusty F100.

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San Antonio, US
          

Darrell------Thankk you for your enlightened and enlightening comments. Your comments are the most inspiring words I have read on making images,by any method, in many years.My enthusiasm for image making took a big leap after reading your words. I can only imagine the powerful effect it had on you.Thanks for putting things, in regard to image making,in perspective for me. Regards

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Hi Darrell,

Bravo! Clap, clap, clap. Excellant article. I like your way of thinkg on this one.



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Great story, well written and so true. This Mama will never put down that camera! {"Family Reserve" ~ Lyle Lovett} {Anybody know that tune?}

Kathleen

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Hooah!!!!

73's
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Darrell,
That was an excellent article. I truly enjoyed reading it. Not only are you an articulate writer, and a good photographer. You have chosen to come up with a win win situation in the digital vs film debate. Very dipolmatic.
KP


PS
Nice shot of a beautiful site, and what really catches my eye is that little glimpse of the bike. I sold my Honda 4 750CB thirty years ago. Haven't ridden since. . . too many problems with drivers who couldn't see or perhaps didn't like motorcycles. At any rate, I left with all my extremities in tact.

  

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Yeah, great piecture. I enjoyed your article.

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"Amen"

You've just put into words what I've been feeling for years but haven't been able to define.

Thank you!


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Darrell, you hit the nail.
I am a photographer. We are all photographers. PUNTO!
We all tell a story.
How we deal with it is a different story. Doesnt matter, analogue or digital, we deal with the stories we tell, and thats what counts.


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Very nicely done ***** five stars. Photography in any form is joy.

Jim

  

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Bravo!

Expressing yourself is important.

The medium you choose to express yourself is (and always will be) completely irrelevant.

My personal view remains the same, "When my abilities exceed the capabilities of my equipment, I will look toward something else."

I can state (with great confidence) that this will most likely never be an issue.

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Your article got me thinking and I started to remember my collage years of photogaphy. I had to take a lot of photography for my degree in graphic design but is was always secondary to design in my eyes. It was there to help me visually communicate better. The whole time I was in collage I don't remember talking about cameras or film. Maybe we talked a little about dark room stuff but everything else was about composition and content. When we had our class meetings and had to show our stuff, no one cared what kind of camera you had. The images told the whole story. The holy grail was to score a photo with a message. Pretty pictures where considered "easy" but if you could tell a story with one photo you where the sh** for the day. If you could make someone cry, you where god! Sometimes I see photos that are so overwelming that I want to laugh or cry. Somtimes a photo touches a part of me that I didn't know exsisted. When I see photos like these I never ask what kind of camera the photographer used. I'd be to embarrased.

Now I take a lot of "easy" photos for fun and even more photos for money. I had forgot much of what used to matter to me at one time. Thanks for reminding me
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Wow ,Thats a beautiful expression of a heart felt fact!
Thanks

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http://www.momentsofsimplicity.nl/jumpingsmileys.gif Darrel, a big thumbs up for you!! http://www.momentsofsimplicity.nl/thumbs.gif

Truly a beutifull written and a very true story, I really love it! So Halleluia to you http://www.momentsofsimplicity.nl/worshippy.gif I think this calls for a celebration http://www.momentsofsimplicity.nl/party.gif

(edited to fix a broken link)

Happy shooting',
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Great job and thanks for sharing!

  

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Tulsa, US
          

Great article Darrell!

I have to say that until I got a D100. I just took snapshots of family and vacations. One day I bought a c(ough) A70 and the freedom of not having to worry about having enough of the right film and then getting it processed etc made me start carrying it everywhere. But the camera was frustratingly slow (shutter lag) and otherwise limited.

That led me to the D100 and the photography bug hit hard! Then, right in the middle of it all, I bought a N80! Like you, I wanted to be able to have all mediums available to me ie slide or negative film. The ability to double expose in camera and more.

Thanks for writing the article that expressed where my head has been going

Neil

ps. now I just need to learn to take pictures, not just snapshots!


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Darrell;
Thank heavens there are people such as you, who can put in words what others cannot. Me being one of the "others".

  

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Houston, US
          

Great article Darrel. I don't think film will be going away anytime soon. There are millions-perhaps a billion plus film cameras around the world that will be in good operating condition for many years.

Bill

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That is possibly the best "capture" of the heart of a photographer I have ever read ... amazing.

verbosity here would only lessen its purity.

thank you, Darrell.


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Darrell,

Great article. One comment about your closing,
"When we are long gone, our images will remain..."

I started taking pictures about 39 years ago. Shot both print and slide film. My uncle shot hundreds of rolls of slides in the 50s. Some of my Kodacrome slides are difficult to scan and restore beyond something to stimulate my poor old memory but technology is getting better and the new CS 5000 I just acquired can do amazing things (beyond expectations) with my uncle's and my old slides.

In 1984 I wrote 3 entire books using a KayPro 8 bit computer with a CPM operating system. I kept the 5 1/4 diskettes in a cool, dry, dark place and years later decided to do something with the digital manuscripts (of course the Kaypro was long gone). Took 2 years to find a computer with CPM(2)and then, much to my dismay, found out that 1s and 0s don't stay forever on digital media. All was lost.

Unless a person is willing to continually convert current files to new software versions and onto new media the digital files may end up being unreadable not too far in the future. Perhaps my slides and negatives may be around long after I am dead but with the advancement of technology and due to the marketplace in general, I doubt that my digital files will be around long after I am dead.
Jeff
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Tucson,
          

It was great to read your article. Your point that it's not about film or digital, but capturing images--is so right on. Hurray for getting back to the images more than "equipment lusting," which I myself can be bad about.

I'm 35, and it's just a hobby for me--but an important one. I acquired a humble Nikon EM in 1983 at age 14--took a "star trails" photo with it <link:www.dbases.net/photography_pages/gallery/images/house_night_bw_late1983_rz2.jpg" target="_blank|click here to see it> (new window). Finally, years later I upgraded to a used Nikon FE. I became broke a couple of years later and pawned both cameras--and all the accessories, too--and failed to get them back in time. So I ultimately went with a Nikon N80 and 3 lenses and a Sunpak Flash--AND I got a Rolleicord TLR (VA Type 2).

I got a Coolpix 775 for "everyday" things of mere snapshot caliber. But now I ALSO have just won on eBay a Coolpix 5700. Great how the D70's introduction has made it cheaper. So now, between it all, I'll have 3 camera of "professional" grade (the 775 being the point & shoot model).

I guess I'm saying that it's great having cameras which represent BOTH world. Digital is cheaper and getting better in quality and quickness of equipment everyday; witness all the great reviews abou the D70 and how quickly it operates. Cameras like the 5700 take outstanding photos and come in a compact all-in-one package.

Yet, there's just something about the charm of slides especially which I would not want to totally live without. While I'm excited about the 5700 and I'm tempted to sell the N80 and the Rolleicord TLR to 'simplify' things and to have the extra money to pay for other things not photography-related--ultimately I wish to keep both the N80 and the Rolleicord. The N80 is a GREAT handling camera--it's flat-out the best film camera in the $400-500 range that there is. PERIOD. I feel like Walter Iooss Jr holding that thing!

But the Rolleicord has a personality, too. It's made sometime in 1960 apparently, and it's a throwback to non-automation if there ever was one. Simply put, it's the "anti-digital." The extreme simplicity of it--lacking even a built-in meter--really helps one to focus totally on the art of photography more so than the equipment's complexity. It's almost as quiet as a digital, and for crying out loud it doesn't even use any batteries at all! I just got it last December, and one photo I blew up 20x20 and it's sharp as a tack! It's just such a pleasure using that model, though obviously the N80 is much quicker-handling.

In short, it's great to have film AND digital.

  

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#24. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Vancouver, CA
          

Thanks for the wonderful article.

I shoot both, and I love it.

Allan, A Comox Valley Nikonian
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ballroom_boydonator silver memberSilver Nikonian since 05th Sep 2002Sun 02-May-04 06:05 PM
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#25. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Hi DD,

Great article! I sold my F100 last year (I now have two Fuji S2's) and now, I want it back. You might have just convinced me to buy it back...

Keep writing!

Roël Dixon-Mahatoo
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DigitalDarrelldonator platinum memberPlatinum Charter MemberSun 02-May-04 11:13 PM
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#26. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Hi ballroom_boy,

I just had a funny thing happen to me. I ordered a new AFS-Nikkor 80-400 VR lens that has a $100.00 rebate. The salesman told me that, if I buy a Nikon body, they will DOUBLE the lens rebate. So, I ended up buying a Nikon N75 for $170.00 USD. With the double rebate, I'll get back $200.00 USD, so I in effect, have a free camera. Wehaaa!

Now, I have a camera I can carry around when I don't want to worry about carrying something terribly expensive. Plus, I have a reason to keep on buying Provia. And, I am now going to keep my AF Nikkor 28-105 that I was going to sell. So...my NAS was satisfied, and I have a cool new FILM camera to play with.

He he!




Digital Darrell

  

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ballroom_boydonator silver memberSilver Nikonian since 05th Sep 2002Sun 02-May-04 11:17 PM
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#27. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Hi DD,

Thanks for your post... I live in Canada and the Nikon rebates only apply to US residents. Oh well.

I checked out that auction site and N80's seem to be going quite inexpensively (around $US 200.00). I may just pick one up as my S2's are based on the N80. Would be able to use it in no time since the controls are the same...

take care!

Roël Dixon-Mahatoo
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TheMohaveKid Registered since 11th Jun 2002Sat 08-May-04 06:06 PM
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#28. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Wow ... have not been on Nikonians since August ... I remember this thread starting then and am somewhat amazed it's still active ...to tell you the truth I did not miss the long debates on digital vs. film .. at all.... very "divisional" as someone around here likes to say ....

.... Good Day .

"The creative act is not performed by the artist alone; the spectator brings the work in contact with the external world by deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus adds his contribution to the creative act."

Marcel Duchamp

  

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DigitalDarrelldonator platinum memberPlatinum Charter MemberSat 08-May-04 07:56 PM
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#29. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Mohave,

Please note in the Title some key words, "Not Anymore!"

The debate is over! Film AND Digital won! Aren't we all fortunate? It must still be a topic of interest, since so many people keep commenting. The call of digital is strong, but a scanned 35mm slide is soooooo nice.

Remember the old song from the 70's...."Torn betweeen two lovers...feeling like a foooool. Loving both of you, is breaking all the rules." Well, I'm a rulebreaker. I can use both if I wish, and I believe a lot of other poeple feel the same way.

BTW, I traded my son-in-law my new N75 and $50.00 USD for his slightly used N80. He has gone digital, but still wants to keep a film camera around. The new smell and box of the N75, and the $50.00 won him over.

I have no idea why I need another N80....but...NAS is something that is hard to explain. I just NEED one, that's all!




Digital Darrell

  

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TheMohaveKid Registered since 11th Jun 2002Sat 08-May-04 09:16 PM
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#30. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Hello Darrell ...

Are you still writing those great articles about technology ?? .. they were a joy to read..

Good to hear from you .... I know what you mean ... I've been away from the camera for a bit ... good to see we still use cameras to take pictures.

Good Day ....

"The creative act is not performed by the artist alone; the spectator brings the work in contact with the external world by deciphering and interpreting its inner qualifications and thus adds his contribution to the creative act."

Marcel Duchamp

  

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jdutta78 Registered since 28th Sep 2003Fri 14-May-04 03:24 AM
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#31. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Stony Brook, US
          

Darrell,

Your article reflected my thoughts in the exactly same way. It was a great read. Yeah NAS is deadlier than the worse disease today, bcoz it contaminates through these forums and photo retail shops ... well for me, I am a happy F80-ian, but of late have been affected by NAS, acquiring 3 nikkors within a short time. I had been thinking about either a D70 or a fully manual FM3a and finally the simplicity and sheer pleasure of using an FM3a won me and I got one used in top condition to complement my F80. also for the first time, I bought a used nikon MF 100/2.8 AIS series E too... believe it or not the FM3a and 100/2.8 combo gives more pleasure than the F80 with any of the nikkor zooms in the "time capturing" process.
I being a student and a serious amateur strongly believe that digital is full justified for the fast workflow requiment of working professionals. also if one has to travel/backpack a lot, a digital gear means the headache of batteries/storage and all associated paraphernelia... whereas for film, one just needs to pack enough slide film and enjoy the whole process.
I enjoy viewing my own slides projected on the wall. It is too much of a pleasure to live without.

anyways, digital and film both are capable of image making. it is just the tool to freeze a moment that will never repeat itself.

-joy

Nikonian_Enfielder from West Bengal, India

  

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T42donator silver memberSilver Charter MemberFri 14-May-04 04:45 PM
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#32. "RE: Digital vs. Film, Not Anymore! - Article by DD"
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Greetings Digital Darrell and Forum.

Darrell, thank you for one of the most balanced looks at new and established technology I have seen anywhere. For as long as I can remember, people, and especially novices, have had the misplaced conception that the next new big photographic thing would make most others obsolete in short order.

Hand in hand with that misguided thinking is the idea that one camera must do all things, and that the one with the longest, most advanced feature list is the best of the lot.

I suspect that simple, agile, intuitive film workhorses like the FM3a and Leica M will still be working very nicely alongside the most advanced digital photographic instruments decades hence

Henry
always learning something

“You can’t rely on technology for seeing a picture.” -- William Albert Allard, National Geographic

Henry

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