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hnease Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2012Sun 02-Jun-13 06:22 PM
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"Geranium buds - stacked"


Germantown, US
          

This is my first attempt at stacking. This is a salmon geranium budding out. Shot with d7000, nikkor 105 micro, gitzo tripod, manual focus adjustment, stack of 15 images using Helicon focus.

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howard


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AartPapaya Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Oct 2011Sun 02-Jun-13 09:04 PM
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Hectorspruit, ZA
          

Hi Howard, I wish one of the boffins would reply to this. Something is bothering me, over-sharpening? I would also recommend a very thin white (light-colored)border to offset the black background. What f-stop did you use? Would you mind to post me one of the original pictures that made up the stack with no sharpening? This geranium must now be a pretty sight.

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hnease Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2012Sun 02-Jun-13 09:35 PM
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Germantown, US
          

I'd love any advice. It did seem to come out sharper/harsher when I exported it -- I think my LR may be set to sharpen some on export.
I like the idea of a border -- would you do that in LR or do you have another way to add border?

Here's one of the original files:




And here's the same subject with the natural background (the black background is a piece of black foamcore )



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BSchirm Gold Member Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 07th Dec 2005Tue 11-Jun-13 01:28 PM
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Howard,

I use LR/Mogrify, a Tim Ames plug-in for LR, to create borders. Once you set up what you want, Mogrify applies the borders upon exporting the photo. Mogrify does many other things too. It is a shareware, but you can use it for free. If you make a small donation, you get a registration code.

http://photographers-toolbox.com/blog/2012/03/lightroom-4-and-our-plugins/

Hope this helps.

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BSchirm Gold Member Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 07th Dec 2005Tue 11-Jun-13 01:28 PM
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Rolling Hills, US
          

Howard,

I use LR/Mogrify, a Tim Ames plug-in for LR, to create borders. Once you set up what you want, Mogrify applies the borders upon exporting the photo. Mogrify does many other things too. It is a shareware, but you can use it for free. If you make a small donation, you get a registration code.

http://photographers-toolbox.com/blog/2012/03/lightroom-4-and-our-plugins/

Hope this helps.

Barry

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hnease Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2012Tue 11-Jun-13 01:51 PM
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Germantown, US
          

Thanks, I'll definitely check that out.

Howard

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hnease Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2012Sun 02-Jun-13 09:44 PM
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Germantown, US
          

Oh, and it was 1/125 sec, f / 6.3, ISO 400, late AM direct sun

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AartPapaya Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Oct 2011Mon 03-Jun-13 05:10 PM
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Hectorspruit, ZA
          

Thank you very much for the info. In my opinion, and believe me I am a novice, many people are going overboard with stacking. In this particular case you could have had a perfect picture at f16, at most f22. The loss of sharpness, at f22 is minimal, except maybe for 3' enlargements. If you have a delay function or a cable-trigger and a tripod, there is no reason why you can not use a few second exposure if you need. For most cases stacking 2-5 pictures will suite the purpose.
In you case, I think in this case the number of photos to do your stack did not enhance your picture.
I am also using LR 3.6 and as far as I can gather LR does not offer a way to make borders. I am using an old Ps (CX3?) to make my borders.
For black backgrounds I got my self 2-meters matt-black material and at the same time a very reflecting brilliant white material

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hnease Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2012Mon 03-Jun-13 06:25 PM
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Germantown, US
          

Aart, thanks for your input. You're probably right about the smaller aperture. When I first set up for the shot, I was not using the black background, and I wanted a larger aperture to limit my depth of field. Also, honestly, I just wanted to try stacking so I would know how to do it when I really needed to. One reason I did this many photos in the stack was that on an earlier attempt from a different angle I had some mid-field areas that were out of focus, so I wanted to see if I could get the sharp focus through the whole field.

Thanks again for your advice - I need all I can get!

Howard

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TEITZY Silver Member Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Nikonian since 14th Mar 2007Tue 11-Jun-13 01:30 AM
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WUNGHNU, AU
          

This stack looks fine to me Howard so well done. The light is a little harsh though and you probably need a diffuser panel if you are going to shoot natural light at that time of day.

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hnease Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2012Tue 11-Jun-13 01:50 PM
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Germantown, US
          

Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, most of the time I've had for photography recently has been midday, so I do need to get a diffuser. Do you have any recommendations on a good one? I have a homemade adjustable arm with a clamp, so I should be able to use that to hold it.

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howard

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TEITZY Silver Member Awarded for the continuous and generous sharing of his high level expertise and his always encouraging comments, most notably in the macro and sports forums. Nikonian since 14th Mar 2007Wed 12-Jun-13 12:26 AM
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Wed 12-Jun-13 12:27 AM by TEITZY

WUNGHNU, AU
          

Hi Howard,
There shouldn't be much difference in quality between diffusers but you will probably want one that gives you 2-4 stops of diffusion and is small enough for your clamp to hold (maybe 18 inches in diameter). You might find a reflector is handy as well but you can just use a piece white foam board for that.

Of course your other option is just to shoot when it's overcast

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