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richlewt Registered since 24th Oct 2012Wed 17-Apr-13 11:40 AM
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"105mm f2.8 Micro"
Thu 18-Apr-13 11:08 AM by richlewt

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Hi All
Guess this ones been asked a million times, but am looking at buying a macro lens to use with my D7000. It would be used for portraits, detail shots of bike components and would like to try some nature close ups.
I have been looking at several brands and focal lengths but am getting drawn towards the Nikon 105mm f2.8. Any suggestions?

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Rich

  

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four eighty sparky Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Apr 2011Wed 17-Apr-13 06:40 PM
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#1. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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US
          

>Hi All
>Guess this ones been asked a million times, but am looking at
>buying a macro lens to use with my D7000. It would be used for
>portraits, detail shots of bike components and would like to
>try some nature close ups.
>I have been looking at several brands and focal lengths but am
>getting drawn towards the Nikon 105mm f2.8. Any suggestions?


I have the older 105, the D version.



It's not quite as sharp as my Nifty Fifty at their respective sweet spots, but it's 99.213% as good. Plus, the 105 is sharper 3 stops on either side of the sweet spot, while the 50 only gives me about 1˝ stops on either side.

A 105 is a nice focal length for a micro. The longer (compared to 40-60mm) focal length means you can stay farther from small critters so they won't fly away, plus it doubles as a super-sharp mild telephoto.

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Rickjobson Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Dec 2012Thu 18-Apr-13 11:22 AM
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#2. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Windsor, AU
          

Hi Rich,
i use the current 105mm most days for jewellery pics(i have 2). It is a very nice match with the D800 and a superb lens. However i have not really used it for portraits. I am looking at the 85mm f1.8g for this.
It seems tie 105 is pretty good value compared to some of the other high grade lens.
Rick

  

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Matto Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Jan 2007Thu 18-Apr-13 02:26 PM
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Glenwood, US
          

If you are looking at the 105 f2.8 VR, I find my copy to an excellent macro lens and also extremely good at more distant subjects. I had tried one of of 105 f2.8 D macros, and while it was very good at macro distances, it was only so-so at longer subject distances wide open and I returned it. I wanted to get a 105 AF lens to replace my 105 f2.5 AI manual lens for use at longer subject distances in addition to macro work. The 105 VR is not quite as good at longer distances wide open as my 105 f2.5 AI is, but it is very close. I find the VR feature to be very useful, even at macro distances despite many comments to the contrary. If you want VR, I believe that there is a new macro lens from Tamron that might be a consideration for you. It is less expensive than the Nikon but it has just been announced, and I have not seen any ratings on it. Tamron makes very good macro lenses.

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delraypiper Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Feb 2013Thu 18-Apr-13 02:32 PM
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#4. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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I use the older manual focus f4 macro 105. It is really sharp, and as I use it only for macro, the manual focus is not a problem. I also have a 200 mm macro, but it is harder to use in the field, so I end up using the 105 mostly.

the 200 is good for keeping away from little critters that are shy.

  

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richlewt Registered since 24th Oct 2012Thu 18-Apr-13 05:25 PM
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#5. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Hi Guys
Thank you all for replying. All my lenses so far have been Nikon and am naturally guided down that route. I know the independants are probably as good (if not better sometimes) but I will probably go for the Nikon. I want to one day up date to full frame so have decided to only go for FX lenses that I can use on both formats.
I am thinking that a 105 on a full frame will be nice for portraits as well.

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Rich

  

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skytag Registered since 15th Apr 2013Fri 19-Apr-13 08:03 AM
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#6. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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The 105mm isn't bad for portraits, but the 85mm is generally regarded as a little better, and especially if you have a DX camera. It makes sense to buy FX lenses if you plan to upgrade an FX camera at some point, but at the same time you want to get lenses that also meet your current needs.

A 105mm would be a tad long for portraits on an FX camera and definitely longer than most people would use for portraits on a DX camera. On a DX camera I'd go for a 55mm Micro. They're really sharp and on a DX camera they're the equivalent of an 82mm on an FX camera.

  

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richlewt Registered since 24th Oct 2012Sat 20-Apr-13 03:52 PM
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#8. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Hi
I have just been looking on the Nikon site for their current range of FX micro lenses and it seems like its just the 105mm f2.8 or the 60mm f2.8.
DX micro lens range is an 85mm f3.5 and a 40mm f2.8.
So trying to build a bit of future proofing into my current D7000 with hopefully an upgrade to full frame, I am now wondering whether the 60mm f2.8 FX may be the route to go down. This would give me an equivilant 90mm on the DX format for portraits and become a pretty good standard (50mm) lens when I go to full frame.
Anyone got any comments on the 60mm f2.8 micro?

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Rich

  

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#9. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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>Hi
>I have just been looking on the Nikon site for their current
>range of FX micro lenses and it seems like its just the 105mm
>f2.8 or the 60mm f2.8.
>DX micro lens range is an 85mm f3.5 and a 40mm f2.8.
>So trying to build a bit of future proofing into my current
>D7000 with hopefully an upgrade to full frame, I am now
>wondering whether the 60mm f2.8 FX may be the route to go
>down. This would give me an equivilant 90mm on the DX format
>for portraits and become a pretty good standard (50mm) lens
>when I go to full frame.
>Anyone got any comments on the 60mm f2.8 micro?

The biggest problem I can see with the 40-60mm micros is you need to get right in close to the subject. This can cause two issues... shadows cast by the lens itself, and in the case of crawly critters you may scare them off.

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duh59 Silver Member Charter MemberWed 01-May-13 02:12 AM
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#11. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Wed 01-May-13 02:16 AM by duh59

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hi, I agree with the person stating that the 40-60 range is a little tight for macro. I used my 50mm on my D300 for portraits and general photography and my 105 macro for macro shots.
To do the same with FX, I use a 85mm and/or the 105 macro for portraits and 105 macro for macro also. So as you see I get double duty with my 105 macro (DX and FX). It is an excellent lens that you will use for a very long time. I would suggest a either of the Nikon AF 105 macro and a 50mm 1.8 lens. They would go well with what you have and FX in the future.
Good luck on your decisions.

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anymouse73 Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Jan 2013Fri 19-Apr-13 12:59 PM
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#7. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Philadelphia, US
          

I have the Nikon Micro 105 D lens and really like it. I use it on a D7100 (DX). I find it great for Macro work, especially further away from the subject, but a little "close" for portraits. It is very crisp and it pulls out the details.

I just bought a Tamron 60mm f/2 macro. (I was also looking at the Nikon 60mm f/2.8D micro) Right now Tamron has a $100 rebate, so that WAS a factor in my selecting the Tamron. It is a good closer macro lens and a great portrait lens at about f/5.6, as it does have softer edges and nice bokah, without a lot of chromatic aberration.

Check out Thom Hogan's review of the Tamron here:

http://www.bythom.com/Tamron-60mm-review.htm

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Quinton Weeks Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Oct 2005Sun 28-Apr-13 11:45 PM
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#10. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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tulsa, US
          

105 MM Macro is about all I use.


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buddyro48 Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Feb 2009Sat 25-May-13 02:19 AM
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#13. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Santa Maria, US
          

That is one beautiful image Quinton..

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mjhach Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Dec 2010Mon 27-May-13 12:36 PM
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#14. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Simcoe, CA
          

Having read all these comments in this thread re: which macro to buy, I have a 18-200mm VRI and it's pretty good at macro, but its pales in crispness even compared to my Sigma 10-20mm, although I realize the Sigma isn't macro. Those that have both the 18-200 and a real fixed FL macro, will I notice a difference ( I expect so)? I'm looking at the 105 Nikkor FX or the 85mm NikkorDX. I have the D7000 and don't expect to migrate to FX anytime soon. What are your recommendations?

Ultimately, with the 15day return policy at Henry's Camera in Canada, I will purchase "something" and then return if it doesn't justify the cost. I've serfed the internet on reviews but they are somewhat at odds with each other wrt which is better, the Nikkor, Tamron, or Tokina. I do like the "Poppy" bud or whatever that plant was in this thread above was taken with the 105 NIkkor, so maybe that is what I should look at.

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#15. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Atlanta, US
          

I have the Nikon 105 f/2.8 VR and am very pleased with it for both FX and DX. One plus with the Nikon 105 is that it works with Nikon teleconverters. Image quality is very good.

I've heard good reports on the Nikon 85 Macro. Sharpness is close to the 105. If you are planning to stay with DX, its a good choice and saves money and weight.

The Tamron and Tokina macro lenses in this focal range are also good options.

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mjhach Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Dec 2010Tue 28-May-13 12:34 PM
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#16. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Simcoe, CA
          

Thanks for the reply Eric. Armed with that information, I'm going to compare my lens with those two options and maybe the Tokina and see for myself.

I was reading Ken Rockwell's comments re: the 18-200mm VRI and he is of the opinion that that is all the lens one really needs from macro to 200mm. The image in post #10 in this thread isn't anywhere near what my 18-200mm can give me wrt sharpness, even with a tripod. Everywhere in Nikonians the merits of fixed FL is the best bet for IQ, aside from the 24-70 or 70-200 f2.8 perhaps.

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ericbowles Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge and high level skills in various areas, especially Landscape and Wildlife Photoghraphy Writer Ribbon awarded for for his article contributions to the community Nikonian since 25th Nov 2005Tue 28-May-13 12:51 PM
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#17. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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Atlanta, US
          

A quality prime is generally going to be sharper than a zoom, but the zooms have gotten a lot better. If you looked at a very good zoom - like the 24-70 - compared to 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm primes, the primes have an edge. But zooms have come a long way and are certainly acceptable for most major publications and fine art prints. The value of the 18-200 is extreme flexibility and you are trading off other factors such as distortion, sharpness, etc. As a general purpose lens for travel or personal use, it's a good choice.

When it comes to a macro lens, you have a very specialized situation. All the macro lenses are quite good. Part of that is that since they are primes, design is a bit simpler. And for macro, nobody would buy a lens that was not optically sharp. The Sigma 105, Tamron 90 and Tokina 100 are all very good macro lenses. The presence of these alternatives led Nikon to release the 85mm macro for DX at a very competitive price point. The ability to have a macro lens with VR significantly expands its use to portraits and street photography. You'll find f/3.5 is just fine for macro use - usually macro is at narrow apertures for increasing DOF.

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richlewt Registered since 24th Oct 2012Wed 01-May-13 07:16 PM
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#12. "RE: 105mm f2.8 Micro"
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GB
          

Hi All
Thanks once again for all the comments. I have just received my 105mm f2.8 and am absolutely delighted with it. I am new to macro work so a bit of learning to do now. I will post up some images soon for you to see.

Cheers
Rich

  

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