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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sat 22-Dec-12 05:55 PM
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"Bright Angel Creek by Moonlight"


Phoenix, US
          

Just got back from hiking in the Grand Canyon. It was a bit cold but really beautiful with almost no crowds. Here is a night shot (30s exposure) from the bridge to Bright Angel campground. Only the moon was lighting the scene of this view of the Bright Angel Creek flowing towards the Colorado River. Jupiter is the bright object in the sky.

It is hard to compose in the darkness using the viewfinder so I relied on the bubble level on the hotshoe to get me close. I found that away from the city lights with the mixed white balance that daylight gave the most realistic color representation.

D7000 f/3.5 30s ISO 1000 Rokinon 8mm

Dean
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mnbuilder49 Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, especially in Interiors Architecture, Landscape and HDR Photography
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mnbuilder49 Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, especially in Interiors Architecture, Landscape and HDR Photography Nikonian since 18th Apr 2006Sat 22-Dec-12 06:39 PM
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Lakeville, US
          

Very nice Dean. When you look at the image @ 100%, do the stars still look okay? I just wonder if the 30 sec. exposure would make them look fuzzy.
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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sat 22-Dec-12 09:27 PM
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Phoenix, US
          

Thanks, Larry, at 100% you can see the movement of the stars but just barely. There is a rule of thumb of 500/(Focal Length) to give the shutter speed where blurring will be evident. On my 8mm DX convert to full frame for the formula and I have 500/(8 * 1.5) = 42 seconds. So 30 seconds is still OK by the formula. Shooting wide open is not the best for producing sharp images but stopping down would increase the shutter time and increasing the ISO would create intolerable noise robbing detail. Trade offs.

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mnbuilder49 Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, especially in Interiors Architecture, Landscape and HDR Photography Nikonian since 18th Apr 2006Sun 23-Dec-12 11:51 AM
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Lakeville, US
          

Thanks for the reply Dean.
I am aware of the formula you stated. When I shoot at 14mm on a full frame I don't like much beyond 15 seconds even though the formula says I should be good for twice that.

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rb4good Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 22nd May 2006Sat 22-Dec-12 08:40 PM
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Rocky Hill, US
          

That's a very beautiful image,Dean. Nice shooting.

Rick

  

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MasterDabber Registered since 10th Dec 2005Sat 22-Dec-12 09:09 PM
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Sat 22-Dec-12 09:11 PM by MasterDabber

Camberley, UK
          

A very nice image Dean. An interesting comment regarding the use of the bubble level.
I'm optimistic that Father Christmas is bringing me a D7000 for Christmas... hope I can produce something as nice.
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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sat 22-Dec-12 09:31 PM
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Phoenix, US
          

I'm sure you will find some interesting subjects for your new D7000. Maybe you should look for a bubble level in your stocking as the built in sensor will only indicate one axis of information and a wide angle or fisheye needs to be level in two planes to avoid distortion effects unless that's what you are looking to produce.

Dean
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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sat 22-Dec-12 09:27 PM
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Phoenix, US
          

Thanks Rick.

Dean
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russg Silver Member Nikonian since 03rd Nov 2007Sun 23-Dec-12 12:53 AM
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#7. "RE: Bright Angel Creek by Moonlight"
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Phoenix, US
          

This is a very special photo, Dean. After using the formula to determine a 30 second expoasure did you then set the other variable manually by trial and error or did you let the D7000 determine aperture and ISO settings. I'd be interested in hearing a more detailed explanation of your methodolgy.

Russ

  

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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sun 23-Dec-12 03:30 AM
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Phoenix, US
          

I did not even check to see what the camera would have suggested although I think it may have been pretty close. I know the the noise increases at ISOs higher than 1250 at a rate that causes diminishing returns on usable sharpness balanced against unsightly blotches of color noise. I had been doing some similar shots down by the river and settled in on the ISO and the aperture of that lens if wide open at f/3.5.

Dean
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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Sun 23-Dec-12 02:00 AM
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Tacoma, US
          

Great shot, Dean. Did you de-fish this?

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DeanAZ Moderator Expert nature photographer Nikonian since 28th Apr 2007Sun 23-Dec-12 03:32 AM
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Phoenix, US
          

No, it's not de-fished. The lens has a pretty nice distortion pattern and if I keep it level the results look normal. I don't have any specific software to accomplish this. Do you or anyone else have something to recommend?

Dean
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Tacoma, US
          

DxO Optics Pro will defish, as will PTLens. But I'm not sure if they will work with the Rokkinon lens.

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spiritualized67 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Mar 2007Sun 23-Dec-12 04:02 AM
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#11. "RE: Bright Angel Creek by Moonlight"
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Western PA, US
          

Nice capture Dean. You had me at the title.

~Dan

  

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Regensburg, DE
          

This is a very beautiful image - very well done Dean! Wow!!!

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Izzie Gold Member Nikonian since 02nd Dec 2011Sun 23-Dec-12 12:00 PM
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Chesterfield, US
          

Nice shot, Dean....Wow!

Fly safe, drive safe and keep safe.
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Milwaukee, US
          

Very nice image.

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