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jdenning Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Jun 2007Mon 15-Jul-13 09:47 AM
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"3rd party speed lights and CLS?"


Roswell, GE
          

Are there 3rd party speedlights that work with the CLS? Any 1st hand experience?

Right now I have one SB-800, want more...

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Asgard Administrator He is your Chief Guardian Angel at the Helpdesk and knows a lot about a lot Nikonian since 07th Apr 2004Mon 15-Jul-13 07:38 PM
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#1. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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Mon 15-Jul-13 08:45 PM by Asgard

East Frisia, DE
          

Yes, mostly all 3rd party speedlights have a Modell with CLS.

Nissin, Metz, Sigma etc.

Gerold - Nikonian in East Frisia
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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Mon 15-Jul-13 08:12 PM
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#2. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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US
          

Hi John,

While most 3rd party manufacturers make Speedlights that are i-TTL compatible, some models have wireless CLS compatibility to varing degrees, other models are not wireless CLS compatible. In other words look closely at the specs of each specific model to narrow down your search. Then post specific questions about the specific models that you are considering.
If you want 100% compatibility guaranteed get a Nikon Speedlight.

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009Fri 19-Jul-13 05:15 AM
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#4. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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Fri 19-Jul-13 05:15 AM by Antero52

Vantaa, FI
          

Before buying my SB-900, I bought a Sigma model (I think it was a ST 530 Super). It was said to operate wirelessly, which it did, sort of. But it had to be physically mounted on the camera to configure it. Apparently Nikon has some patents that Sigma could not design around otherwise.

In addition to the inconvenient configuration, the user manual was a disaster too. It was a paper sheet the size of a tablecloth, with instructions for 30-plus languages. In any language the info was laconic at best. It told me which buttons to press to activate BL mode but it didn’t bother to tell me what BL mode is or why I’d want to use it. I know it now but I didn’t know then. I returned the Sigma and bought the SB-900.

In a nutshell, the Sigma speedlights are probably good for people who change configurations (eg from master to slave) either regularly, so they remember how to do it, or never, in which case the clumsy operation doesn’t matter. For someone like me, who changes the configuration occasionally, it was too much hassle.

Best regards, Antero

  

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jdenning Silver Member Nikonian since 16th Jun 2007Fri 19-Jul-13 09:52 AM
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#5. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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Roswell, GE
          

Thank you everyone for your input. Looks like the best bet is stay with Nikon, and keep is simple.

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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Fri 19-Jul-13 01:18 PM
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#6. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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Richmond, US
          

I agree with the criticism of the Sigma manuals - I'd forgotten, but Antero is quite correct. I did know enough to make it work, but those manuals were very little help.

If you're going to get a Nikon, do look at the SB-700/900/910, as their controls are VASTLY easier to use than the SB-600/800. I have a 900 and three 600's, and I try to change the 600 configs as little as possible, preferring to do it all from the 900. One thing I can't handle that way is flipping the 600's into and out of remote mode, which I need to do to use my RF triggers and to use a 600 as a standalone flash. But all the rest is way easier if set from the commander.

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Fri 19-Jul-13 02:38 PM
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#9. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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US
          

Hi John,

>Looks like the best bet is stay with Nikon, and keep is simple.

Good decision!

I have Nikon, Metz and Quantum flash units.
While there is some compatibility it is much easier and more efficient to use each system independently instead of mixing and matching systems.

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Fri 19-Jul-13 02:25 PM
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#8. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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US
          

Hi Antero,

Thanks for sharing your experience with the Sigma 530 Super.
As I wrote a above, different models within the same line provide different levels of compatibility. The same is true for Metz. While most of the newer models are compatible with wireless CLS, most of the older models are limited to Metz's proprietary version of wireless flash control. While it will work with other Metz Speedlights, it won't work with Nikon Speedlights.

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Tue 16-Jul-13 11:35 AM
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#3. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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Richmond, US
          

I've used Sigma flashes in CLS successfully.

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BGD600 Registered since 19th Sep 2012Fri 19-Jul-13 01:27 PM
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#7. "RE: 3rd party speed lights and CLS?"
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GB
          

Both yongnuo and nissin make cls compatible flashes

  

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