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BoStruye Silver Member  US  Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2011 Fri 03-May-13 05:18 AM
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"PocketWizard TT1 / TT5 Hypersync with SB800 not working."



Since the PW TT5 firmware still does not work with the D600, I am using my D7000 with them. Today I went out to test the Hypersync feature outdoors which is supposed to allow you to sync at any speed. So I set up the camera in Program mode with everything set to default as described in Mark Wallace's excellent PW videos.

For the most part, everything worked as advertised. Flash fill was great. Interestingly, in this P mode, the camera was trying all it could to stay at 1/320 or below.

But when I set the camera to Aperture priority in order to choose a wide aperture, the speed went correspondingly higher and the flash simply would not fire at any speed above 1/320. I would have expected it to fire and maybe be faced with some XSync dark band or something like that, but the flash would simply not fire until I chose an narrower aperture which would drop the speed to 1/320 or less.

Any idea what might be happening there? The Flex and mini are supposedly automatically set to allow you to shoot way above 320...

My PW firmware is the latest which is 3.150 and the flashes are set to TTL as indicated by the instructions.

The PW web site is pretty confusing on the issue. Somewhere it mentions that "This works best in Manual mode". What does that mean "It works "best" ? Either it works or it doesn;t. And does that mean that it does not work in A or P mode?

I also got the impression from their site that using the AC3 with this setup would also help. I am curious as to why that would make a difference.

Any help would be appreciated.

Bo

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Reply message RE: PocketWizard TT1 / TT5 Hypersync with SB800 not wor... ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography
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ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography   Powder Springs, US  Charter Member Fri 03-May-13 05:21 PM
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#1. "RE: PocketWizard TT1 / TT5 Hypersync with SB800 not working."
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I'm not at my computer to confirm, but the PW Utility has a box to check to enable HSS. Is that Checked? Also, and I don't know whether it is documented yet, but the flash needs to be set to manual and full power. That makes sense, since you have to squeeze every ounce of power out of the flash ( not that flash power is measured in ounces).

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BoStruye Silver Member  US  Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2011 Fri 03-May-13 05:47 PM
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Thank you Scott.

I'm not at my computer either but all my settings are at default. If I remember correctly, that means that Hypersync is on until 1/250 and then it switches to HSS.

Your suggestion of setting the flash to Manual is interesting. As you say, it makes sense. What is strange is that I don't see that mentioned anywhere on the PW site.

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ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography   Powder Springs, US  Charter Member Fri 03-May-13 06:14 PM
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Bo,

I don't think PW mentions full power-manual on their site. I learned that from them through email communications.

I know you have to change something from default, the shutter speed at least. I set mine to go into high speed sync at speeds above 1/600 and I checked the box to permit hypersync. It will not default to hypersync, that I am aware of.

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BoStruye Silver Member  US  Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2011 Fri 03-May-13 09:32 PM
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Well guess what we just got an hour ago? A new release of the PW firmware, including, at LOOOOOONNNNNG last... support for the D600 ! I am very anxious to try this on that camera.

http://www.pocketwizard.com/support/downloads/beta

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ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography   Powder Springs, US  Charter Member Sat 04-May-13 12:13 AM
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Oh boy... another firmware update for 5 radios! I'm glad it's getting your D600 working.

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BoStruye Silver Member  US  Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2011 Sat 04-May-13 01:09 AM
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OK, I think I found the source of the problem.

During an email exchange with PW tech support, he mentioned that some cameras were having issues when battery power was less than 50%. I remembered that yesterday, when I ran into the problem mentioned below (ie, flash not firing at all when speed was above 1/320 with all settings to default), my camera battery was quite low. Possibly around 30%.
Today I put a fresh battery in it and tested again. The location and circumstances were different but I believe I replicated everything as close as I could and now I am getting flash firing nicely well above 1/1000!

So it looks like my issue was caused by camera battery being too low!

The new firmware carries a release note which suggests to keep camera battery power at least 50% charged. This might be very good advice.

Bo

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ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography   Powder Springs, US  Charter Member Sat 04-May-13 08:42 AM
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Weird

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