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jadiniz Registered since 25th Dec 2010Wed 05-Sep-12 10:16 AM
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"Your opinion on expansion path - IR CLS or go RF manual?"
Wed 05-Sep-12 10:18 AM by jadiniz

Estoril, PT
          

Need to consult with the experienced people around here. Here's my dilemma:

I'm already using an SB700 with great sucess both on and off-camera, using Nikon's fantastic CLS/IR wireless (built-in as commander). And now I'd very much like to add a second flash, but finances are short, and I have two paths available, both for the same kind of money:

1. Buy an old SB800 with a hotshoe malfunction, that still works perfectly as a CLS wireless slave. This option would give me two speedlights to be controlled inteligently by the built-in, but has the normal limitations of IR control: distance, obstacles and difficult triggering in high ambient light levels (outdoor).

2. Buy a Yongnuo 460-II or similar, and a set of RF-602 radio triggers with two receivers, and work both speedlights in full manual mode, radio control. More hard work, but more options in light placement and reliable triggering.

I predict that indoors and/or low light levels will be the typical scenario, although not your typical studio portrait setup (yeah, I'd like to get creative strobist style), and the SB800 should be a great, powerfull speedlight, even with the hot-shoe problem. For on-camera bounce work my SB700 is great, too. So, would my doors open if I jumped the RF manual control bandwagon?

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luckyphoto Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Dec 2010Wed 05-Sep-12 12:30 PM
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#1. "RE: Your opinion on expansion path - IR CLS or go RF manual?"
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Port Charlotte, US
          

I'm not sure what you mean by having your "doors open", but personally, going to basic radio triggers forced me to become more skilled using manual flash setups. Now I can use either radio or CLS with a fair amount of confidence.

If I find that CLS isn't working I can quickly switch to radio triggers. In a studio I generally use radio triggers so I have complete control over the camera and strobes.

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jadiniz Registered since 25th Dec 2010Wed 05-Sep-12 01:19 PM
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Estoril, PT
          

Good arguments, thanks for your reply. Learning the different sides of technique is indeed very good.

By opening doors, I am referring to new possibilities. Stictly amateur, no formal studio work, the situations I'd like to light up should be varied and dynamic. What I'm looking for is versatility without a price tag (or at least for the smallest amount of money).

A little over 100€ will get me either this crippled SB800, or the YN and RF triggers. Were would you spend your money, and why?

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2. Light is more important than glass and pixels.
3. In the digital photography process, software is as important as gear.

  

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This remind me of a foreman I had -in my cowboy days- who said "Never buy a lame horse. He would love you dearly but you will never race with it or maybe not even mount him".
So I would not buy a defective speedlight.
Wait to find another fully working one.
Going with triggers is technically sound but maybe not financially.
Good and reliable triggers that go beyond the Nikon CLS ranges are not inexpensive.

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Fri 07-Sep-12 03:24 AM
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#4. "RE: Your opinion on expansion path - IR CLS or go RF manual?"
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Hi Jose,

Unless the price is dirt cheap, I would get a used SB-600 before a damaged SB-800.
I started out using Manual flash with optical slaves decades ago.
Shooting digital should make the learning curve much less steep than w\shooting with film.
Go with what you feel most comfortable with.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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