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benjaminhaworth Basic MemberSun 04-Nov-01 01:44 PM
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"SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"


Clitheroe, GB
          

LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-01 AT 07:55 PM (GMT)

I wish to use this set up for night time sports pictures (mountainbiking at night!).

Is it possible to just have the SB22 flashing? (which would be off-camera and lying 20 feet in front of me). In other words does the F80's built-in flash HAVE to fire in order to trigger the off-camera SB22?

Basically I only want there to be light coming out of the off-camera SB22 flash. Having to have to F80's built-in flash firing too (and thus illuminating a foreground area I don't want illuminating) would not be desirable.

If this is the case, how can I lessen the impact of the built-in flash illumination?, or what set up do I need to buy to achieve my aims?

Thanks in advance,

Benjami

Click below to see what kind of pictures I would like to be able to take...

http://members.tripod.com/~benjaminhaworth/su4.html

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jrp Administrator JRP is one of the co-founders, has in-depth knowledge in various areas. Awarded for his contributions for the Resources Charter MemberSun 04-Nov-01 01:51 PM
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#1. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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San Pedro Garza García, MX
          

The SU-4 has to be triggered by another flash, that's when your built-in speedlight comes into action. At 20 ft I don't think you have to worry much about it overwhelming your subject.
If you only want one light firing, you will need other means, like the SC-17.
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benjaminhaworth Basic MemberSun 04-Nov-01 04:49 PM
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#2. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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Clitheroe, GB
          

Cheers for the response

I found out lots of useful info on the SU-4 here:-

http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~parsog/Guy/niksu4.html

I WAS thinking of getting the SC-17 but because it is only 1.5 metres long it wouldn't be possible to have the off-camera flash as far away as I'd like (ie. 20 feet). If Nikon made a 10 metre long SC-17 then I'd probably go far that - but then again, I'd have a load of cable to deal with then and would have to watch out for people riding over it and them (and me) getting tangled up in it!

So ideally I'd like a flash that could be fired up to 20 feet away but one that isn't activated by a flash firing on the camera. Does no one do a radio signal based off-camera flash receiver or something?

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JM Registered since 01st Mar 2007Sun 04-Nov-01 05:58 PM
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#3. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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US
          

Any good 'pro' oriented shop will have slaves of different types. Some shops will rent which would allow you to try the options.
There are IF and radio as well as creative blocking and channeling of light to use light driven slaves. By placing a card angled across the on board flash you can mask the subject area while triggering an out of veiw slave unit (SU-4,etc.).
There are also third party cords available to extend accessory stuff, see Paramount or house brands at good shops.
Where is all this 'Nite Riding' being done? I lurk a group in the Kansas City area that publicises several Lighted rides in what sounds like some technical turf in that area.
Jeff Markus

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JM Registered since 01st Mar 2007Sun 04-Nov-01 06:00 PM
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#5. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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US
          

Here's some shops in Chicago area on-line.
http://www.calumetphoto.com/
http://www.central-camera.com/
http://www.helixcamera.com/home.html
They list slaves for varying use and drives.
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JM Registered since 01st Mar 2007Sun 04-Nov-01 06:02 PM
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#6. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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US
          

Here's some shops in Chicago area on-line.
http://www.calumetphoto.com/
http://www.central-camera.com/
http://www.helixcamera.com/home.html
They list slaves for varying use and drives.
Jeff Markus

JM
The Chicagoan

  

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benjaminhaworth Basic MemberSun 04-Nov-01 07:43 PM
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#7. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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Clitheroe, GB
          

Q:"Where is all this 'Nite Riding' being done?"

A: Near Blackburn, Lancashire, United Kingdom!

And not a lot of night riding has been done at all lately due to Foot & Mouth epidemi

Anyway, I've decided to go for a SU-4 unit. There's a night ride planned in a couple of weeks so I'll let you know how it all went (with a couple of pics attached as well maybe).

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#4. "RE: SU-4 with F80 and SB22s"
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San Pedro Garza García, MX
          

LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-01 AT 08:05 PM (GMT)

"Peanut" slaves are fun and inexpensive. I have used them in medium format to avoid tripping over cables and trigger one or a bunch of Vivitar 283 flash units.

Radio controlled camera/flash?
Sure, Pocket-Wizard, Wein, Quantum Electronics and Nikon of course make such units. I have not played with any of them ...... yet.
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