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DavidG     Basic Member Mon 12-Feb-01 03:40 AM
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"Coolpix 990 movies"



Hi,
I've started playing with the little movies that the 990 lets you make; all good fun. However when I open them up in QuickTime to play them they need to be rotated 90 degrees - they are horizontal rather than vertical - and camera orientation doesn't make any difference! Can this list help me out please? What am I doing wrong, or, is there an application somewhere which will let me tip them up the right way? (I hasten to add I can't find anything in QuickTime which will do it).
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Reply message RE: Coolpix 990 movies BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources
12th Feb 2001
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Reply message RE: Coolpix 990 movies DavidG
14th Feb 2001
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     Reply message RE: Coolpix 990 movies BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources
15th Feb 2001
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     Reply message RE: Coolpix 990 movies BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources
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19th Feb 2001
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BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources   Salt Lake City, US  Charter Member Mon 12-Feb-01 04:34 AM
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#1. "RE: Coolpix 990 movies"
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LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-01 AT 05:46 AM (GMT)

Unfortunately, the 990 isn't smart enough to detect a vertical position when you're taking an image or making a movie. The file for any image is saved as a horizontal frame. I'm not sure what you mean about camera orientation not making a difference... horizontally captured movies should view correctly via a media player, vertically captured movies will play rotated horizontally. The same thing is true of the still images - you have to rotate vertical shots 90 degrees.

You can rotate the movies using a Quicktime editor, or at least a video editing package that supports Quicktime import. I'll check and see what technique I used to rotate a movie and get back to you (I have a couple of video editing programs and some other utilities - I forget what worked). Frankly, the Nikon software should have a file rotation (not just a temporary thumbnail rotation) capability for both images and movies. Oh well, nobody said this would be easy. Wait a minute... they DID say this would be easy!

BJ

Okay, here's what I did:

I opened the quicktime movie file in Adobe ImageReady 2.0 (included with Photoshop 6.0). You can import the whole movie with every frame or you can select reduce the number of imported frames by choosing every second, third (and so on) frame and by setting the start and stop image in a sequence. Once you import the images you choose Image, Rotate Canvas, 90° CCW and the entire set of frames will be rotated to the correct position. You then have to Export the movie back to quicktime (.mov) format, or another animation format.

There has to be a better way, perhaps some shareware to do this job. I'll certainly get back if I discover a utility to do the rotation.

BJ

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DavidG     Basic Member Wed 14-Feb-01 08:46 PM
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Dear BJ
Thank you for taking the time to suggest a solution (and for mailing it to me off-list too). Some further experimentation throws up an interesting twist. I'd had the 990 set on image size of 3:2 before switching to movie and that appears to have forced the movies into horizontal mode (whereby people appear sideways) whatever the original orientation of the camera. When I went back to an image size setting of VGA, whoopee, movie now oriented correctly! Given that the specs for movies stipulate an image size of 320x240 and a quality of QVGA, I don't quite understand how I was able to lock it into 3:2 but there it was ...

BJ's suggestion of a Quicktime editor has led me to search through the specs of half a dozen or so. I particularly liked quickEditor (shareware, Swiss) but it doesn't rotate movies.

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BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources   Salt Lake City, US  Charter Member Thu 15-Feb-01 01:13 AM
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It sounds like you found another bug in the 990 firmware. Since Nikon doesn't provide the means to rotate a movie you'd think that the orientation would at least be predictably horizontal only.

Since it's a unusual feature to need (until the advent of "dumb" digital cameras that can capture movie segments), it may be difficult to find either a multimedia editor or even a robust video editor that will rotate movie files. Video just isn't shot in a vertical format for replay on standard TVs. Since video for the web or cd should be more flexible to display, my best guess would be a multimedia authoring program. However, these aren't cheap and it may be wise to use or borrow access to Imageready 2. Sooner or later someone will write a utility to do the job since Nikon isn't the only camera maker to create this problem for users.

I would recommend you ask the same question at the dpdirect forums and see what other answers you might get. There are folks there who are pushing the digital envelope. If there is a utility, someone there will know...
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/

BJ

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BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources   Salt Lake City, US  Charter Member Thu 15-Feb-01 06:39 PM
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There is a suggestion in the dpreviews archives that Quick Time Pro ($29) will perform rotation of movies. I don't know if that means it will rotate the display image or if it will allow you to rotate and resave a file. I will be able to find out in a day or two.

Another program mentioned for rotating AVI files is VideoMach (shareware). This program does not support Quiktime, so the files would have to be converted first.

BJ

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DavidG     Basic Member Mon 19-Feb-01 08:34 PM
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Thanks to BJNicholls for the guidance - I've investigated the archives he/she suggested and found the answer. QuickTime Pro can rotate the movies made by the 990!
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