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ronnielee54 Registered since 26th Jan 2006Tue 20-Jun-06 05:01 PM
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"18-200 for D-50"


Van Buren, US
          

This has been covered before but a Nikon 18-200 VR is not even in the picture. At least 90% of my pictures will be printed on an Epson Picturemate (i.e. 4X6). Am looking for an 18-200 to carry to NASCAR races. Will also be using a monopod to. Am looking for replys from fellow nikonians who are using either the Sigma or Tamron lenses on their D-50's. Am hoping for ny needs that either lens will be good enough for my needs. This will be my first 3rd party lens. Am hoping for luck.

Thanks all,
Ronnielee54

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I anever mentioned but I have a Nikkor 28-200 AF D series lens that was purchased with my N90. Maybe I need to forget the conveience of 1 lens and just be a little more careful when changing lenses if I need the wide angle. This lens will probably yield better results than the Sigma or Tamron anyway. Then I could by an SB600 to replace my SB25. What do you think?

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kgendron12 Registered since 18th Jan 2006Tue 20-Jun-06 07:23 PM
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#1. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Burlington, US
          

There is a reason why the Tamron and Sigma are priced so much lower than the Nikon 18-200. I haven't used either, but from people who have and reviews I've seen, the Tamron and Sigma aren't very good past 150 or so.

I've seen and heard MUCH better things about the Sigma 18-125.

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viziondetroit Registered since 13th Mar 2006Tue 20-Jun-06 08:47 PM
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#2. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Detroit, US
          

I think the main reason is because of VR... Vibration Resistance. which makes a helluva difference when your out on the long end of lens

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jblack Registered since 28th Jan 2007Thu 03-Aug-06 08:08 PM
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#11. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Ottawa, CA
          

Does the VR capability on the 18-200 VR work on the D50? I've assumed it did until a few minutes ago when I read:

"VR is functional with all (Nikon D bodies) except the D50."
- SOURCE: The Nikonian #30 p.14 bottom of first column.

Can this be true? I hope not.

  

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kd5boc Registered since 22nd Nov 2005Fri 04-Aug-06 04:02 PM
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#13. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Abilene,
          

>Does the VR capability on the 18-200 VR work on the D50?
>I've assumed it did until a few minutes ago when I read:
>
>"VR is functional with all (Nikon D bodies) except the D50."
>- SOURCE: The Nikonian #30 p.14 bottom of first column.
>
>Can this be true? I hope not.

WHAT?!?! This can't be true! It has to work.

What would be the point of owning this lens and a d50 then?

Tom

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Fri 04-Aug-06 05:07 PM
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#14. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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It is incorrect. VR works just fine on the D50.

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kd5boc Registered since 22nd Nov 2005Fri 04-Aug-06 10:31 PM
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#18. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Abilene,
          

>It is incorrect. VR works just fine on the D50.
>
>Scott Simon
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Awesome...need to let the e-zine know about that.

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mfa Registered since 19th Nov 2005Fri 04-Aug-06 07:40 PM
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#15. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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>Does the VR capability on the 18-200 VR work on the D50?
>I've assumed it did until a few minutes ago when I read:
>"VR is functional with all (Nikon D bodies) except the D50."
>- SOURCE: The Nikonian #30 p.14 bottom of first column.
>Can this be true? I hope not.

Don't know how he came up with that. I searched the US and Japan Nikon web sites and could find no such qualification.

  

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mfa Registered since 19th Nov 2005Mon 07-Aug-06 11:08 PM
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#21. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Pelennor Fields, US
          

>Does the VR capability on the 18-200 VR work on the D50?
>I've assumed it did until a few minutes ago when I read:
>"VR is functional with all (Nikon D bodies) except the D50."
>- SOURCE: The Nikonian #30 p.14 bottom of first column.
>Can this be true? I hope not.

I wrote the article's author and this was his response...

I'm sorry about the confusion. What is in the article did not come out correctly.
VR on the 18-200 DOES work. The only exception is when the built-in flash is recharging.
Sorry again
Victor Newman

  

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jblack Registered since 28th Jan 2007Tue 08-Aug-06 12:49 PM
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#22. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Ottawa, CA
          

Thanks for clarifying this with the author. I should have done the same.

  

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K1W1 Registered since 19th Nov 2005Tue 20-Jun-06 09:17 PM
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#3. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Melbourne, AU
          

If you are on a budget and want to shoot something like NASCAR then look at the Sigma 70-300 APO. You don't really need anything shorter than 70mm for an auto event unless you want to take shots in the pits and your kit 18-55 would work well for that anyway.

  

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jemaerca Registered since 28th May 2006Wed 21-Jun-06 01:17 AM
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#4. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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NASCAR pics means lots of light to me so you won't need the Nikon 18-200VR lens for that. The VR will still help if you pan though.

That said, getting the 18-200VR will allow you to use the lens in situations with less light so that's what really what you're paying for. Good luck.

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K1W1 Registered since 19th Nov 2005Wed 21-Jun-06 08:16 AM
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#5. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Melbourne, AU
          

>The VR will still help if you
>pan though.

I was under the impression that VR was actually no good for panning and that if you are panning VR would normally be turned off. VR is designed to stop small amounts of movement caused by hand shake. There is no way it would be able to react or correct the sort of movement you get during panning.

  

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kgreene Registered since 26th Apr 2006Wed 21-Jun-06 11:12 AM
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#6. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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The 18-200 VR lens uses VRII which has two levels of control, "normal" and "active". Under "normal" mode the VR system allows for the lateral movement that's occurs when panning. When in "active" mode, it reduces all camera shake, horizonal and vertical.

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the watosh Registered since 12th Dec 2005Fri 23-Jun-06 04:46 PM
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#7. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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I've been using the Sigma 18-200 as my only lens with my D50 since August 2005. I've been able to take some pretty good shots with it and have generally been pleased. I wanted only one lens since I go to locations that are dusty and don't want to clean the sensor every time I change lenses, so the 18-200 is a permanent fixture on my D50. (I know it's not the BEST choice, but it works for me).

I did a lot of Tamron vs Sigma 18-200 and 18-125 research and settled on the Sigma due to the various reviews showing Sigma as being slightly better.

I found that there are distortion issues at various focal lengths that require Photoshop manipulation to correct.

More importantly, I found that the left side of all pictures were out slightly out of focus. After much testing, I sent the lens back to Sigma and they replaced it with another that focused correctly (still has the distortion issues). The bottom line is, if you buy any lens, test it thoroughly immediately upon receipt.

The 18-200 is great for a one-size-fits-all walkaround for what my needs are, and I would use it for a Nascar event or similar events in a second!

If my budget permitted, I would replace the Sigma with the Nikon due to the VR capability, but for the price, I'll stick with the Sigma for now and hang on to my tripod and monopod.

Photos taken with my D50 and Sigma 18-200: www.cafields.com

Hope this helps!

C.A. Fields,
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scottl Registered since 30th Apr 2006Thu 06-Jul-06 05:15 PM
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#8. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Ashburn, US
          

What do you mean by distortion issues?
Thanks
Scott

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the watosh Registered since 12th Dec 2005Thu 06-Jul-06 06:29 PM
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#9. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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The distortion issues I've found are primarily what I believe is called pincushion distortion. Straight lines at the top of the frame tend to be curved inward. I find that the horizon in ocean pictures tend to need some degree of straightening. I tested this distortion with a shot of a brick wall and found that the horizontal lines of the upper row of bricks were not straight, but were slightly curved in the resulting picture. So far with the pictures I have taken I haven't encountered anything that Photoshop couldn't correct.

The-Watosh

  

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#10. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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I agree with K1W1, either Sigma 70-300 APO DG, Nikon 70-300G, or Nikon 75-300 would be a much better choice. Since you're using a monopod, VR isn't that important. If you're sure 200mm is ok, then the Nikon 55-200DX is a very good lens and would get you outstanding results, much better than a do-all 18-200 for less money. Even better find a used 80-200 f/2.8.

IMO don't compromise your telephoto shots for the convenience of not changing lenses in the pits. 18-200 is a great focal range when you can only carry one lens, but a lens that does everything will inevitably not do any one thing well.

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Fri 04-Aug-06 03:43 PM
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#12. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

Ronnielee54,

Have you tried your 28-200 at the track? Do you really need that extra 10mm? I find I often don't.

If your lens is the same model I have (28-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF) this is quite a good lens. Granted it is not pro prime, but I found it much sharper than my 70-300, and with much less CA (I found the 70-300mm somewhat unacceptable wide open). In fact, after getting the 28-200 I got rid of the 70-300.

I really don't think you will find the alternatives you have suggested to be as good.

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ronnielee54 Registered since 26th Jan 2006Fri 04-Aug-06 08:14 PM
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#16. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Van Buren, US
          

No it is not the same lens I have. Mine is the "D" lens. It was purchased with a N90. I believe the "G" lens came out a few years later, but I could be wrong about that.

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Fri 04-Aug-06 08:57 PM
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#17. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

If it has an aperture ring it is the older one... but I am not sure how the older one compares with the newer one. I can only say I was pleasantly surprised how good this lens is.

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ronnielee54 Registered since 26th Jan 2006Sat 05-Aug-06 02:42 PM
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#19. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Van Buren, US
          

Yes, mine has the aperture ring. I am beginning to think that it wouldn't be worth the expense to buy the Sigma or Tamron to just pick up 10mm at wide angle. I can just be more careful when switghing lenses and use my kit lens when shooting wide angle. From what I have read about the 28-200 D that I already own in the Nikon Compendium I have already got a nice lens that probably would give much better results than the Sigma or Tamron. Besides if I bought the new lens, it would be useless on 2 of my older Nikons (FM, N2020). I would only be able to use it on my D50 and N90. Damn, I guess i'll just have to take the money saved by not buying the new lens and use it more wisley to buy an SB600 to replace my SB25.

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Sat 05-Aug-06 05:38 PM
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#20. "RE: 18-200 for D-50"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

That'll work!

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