It would not generally be included in any kit deal. This lens is regarded as one of the great bargains in the Nikon range. It's fantastically sharp and produces wonderfull images even in very low light. It's about US100 or less.
The 18-55 kit lens does cover this range but the 50mm f1.8 is a "must have" for most Nikon owners due to the quality of the images it produces.
I used the Nikon D50 18-55mm +50mm-200mm for a couple of weeks and have been quite satisfied with both of them.But I do think it is necessary to buy a 50mm f/1.8 lens or the more expensive one 85mm f/1.8.
I second this recommendation, at least in terms of the 18-55 and the 50 (I don't have a tele right now, so I can't advise on that end). These two lenses will give you a very large amount of range for your work. In fact, many people (myself included) go days without taking off their 50mm.
Ok, this is going to sound really harsh, but you say you don't know a lot about lenses and you just need advice. The thing is, this is the time to get really educated about lenses and cameras. You're about to throw down a whole lot of money on an expensive camera. Learn what an f-stop is, what ISO stands for, and what different focal lengths look like. Cause otherwise you're a sitting duck to get scammed and end up with a bunch of stuff you don't want. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but you'll be better off.
I recommend starting small and just get the D50 and kit lens ($650 from a trusted retailer such as B&H). Pickup a 1 or 2GB SD cards (under $50). Forget about the kits the various retailers offer. It's mostly a generic memory card and some cheapo blower brush.
You'll enjoy the 18-55. After a while you'll have a better idea of your needs and what the next purchase should be.
I do plan on reading books and trying to find a class or online tutorial! But Its one of those things, where I know this is the camera I want and I just want to start off and build from there.
Cameta Auctions is supposdly really good and alot of people have recommended them. They have the warranty and everything and it is an authorized NIKON distrubutor. Yeah it also has the extra's like memory card and case, etc.. but some of them come with 2 lenses for aorund what i want to spend. Mostly its the Nikon 55-200MM or sometimes its the Tamron 70-300MM.
But I can just get the 18-55mm and save up the money for another lens later!
I would not get the 28-80 because on your D50 that gives you a field of view of 42-120 not a very useful range it will make it difficult to get group pictures. Plus the 28-80 is very slow to focus.
I got the two lens kit(18-55DX AF-S ED and 55-200DX AF-S ED) I find the 18-55 Nikkor to focus silently and pretty fast. Here are some pictures taken from the 18-55. These are highly cropped and still are pretty good. I have the Nikkor 28-80 just for reference so you know I have tried both. Though the 70-300 Nikkor is a fine lens slow to focus but quality of the pictures is pretty good.
Data. 18-55 DX ED AF-S at 55mm f8 shutter 60 SB-600 in the bounce config. Raw setting(vivd) sharpened some in Picture Projected and 68% crop
I went for the refurbished one and it had a bad censor. Sent it back and still got a bad censor in the second one ,Now I will have to send it to the APS shop in Illinois and get a new censor. Its still under warranty but I'm not wasting anymore bucks on shipping to Cameta. I would buy a new one from them though. I think their price is $624 w/2 lenses I didn't see that until I had bought the refurb....AAARRGHH
>I went for the refurbished one and it had a bad censor. Sent >it back and still got a bad censor in the second one , >Tony B
That's interesting. This is the first time I have ever heard somebody say that they got a dud refurbished Nikon. To get two with the same problem is really bad luck. What exactly was the problem? "Bad sensor" could be a number of things.
If you purchase the D50 body only, you can probably find a Nikon18-70mm DX,(kit lens with the D70), here on Nikonians.org "I want to sell" section. A lot of D70 buyers are upgrading to the more expensive f/2.8 lenses and would gladly part with their kit lens to help pay for their NAS addiction.
I myself purchased a used Nikon 24-85mm lens and though the wide angle is a little narrow, the photo quality of the lens is excellent, (kenrockwell.com has a good review of this and many other lenses).
You may also want to look at Sigma lenses. A number of Nikon owners like the Sigma 18-125mm zoom as a walk around lens. The affordable 70-300mm APO at 190.00 is also highly regarded. sigma4less.com is supposed to be a good site to buy from.
I am currently lusting after the Nikon 18-200mm VR lens that no one seems to have in stock. It seems to be the perfect walk around lens, except it costs 750.00.
I have purchased numerous cameras from butterflyphoto.com with good results. Just don't buy any of their kits, that's where they make their profits.
Good luck and welcome to the Nikon family,
Bob D90, Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8 D,Nikon 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6, Nikon 105mm f/2.8 micro, Kenko Pro 1.4x teleconverter, etc...
Thanks everyone. Still waiting on the check to come s i can buy it.
Found out I now have to move, so still gonna get the camera but canta fford too many beslls and whistles..si I might have to start witha very basic lens like the 28-80 or the 18-55 just so I can have it and shoot with it. then as we get settled I can start upgrading to better lenses.
It sucks, but at least I have the camera to start right?
You will be very happy with your kit. My wife got me the D50 w/28-80 for Christmas, I didn't like the Lens, wee untill I gave it a chance to prove it's self. That is one Sharp & Light lens. I now use it as a Light carry around lens with the D50 w/28-80 in a Fanny Pack.
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I purchased the kit with the 18-55 and 55-200 lenses a couple of months ago and couildn't be happier. Although I've got the bug, and am looking at other lenses, as well, the kit lenses make a great combo for the time being, and their quality is still great. One more bonus that I noticed is that the battery in the kit I bought is the EN-EL3a, rather than the EN-EL3 which I though was the standard kit battery. The thing lasts forever before needing a charge!