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bernie76 Basic MemberWed 16-Jan-08 01:16 PM
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"D-50 and Infrared photos, revisited...."


San Diego, US
          

I have just uploaded some nice images with the D-50 and the Hoya R72 IR filter, that I took this week. Please take a look at my gallery:

http://www.nikonians-images.com/galleries/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=73800

I love this technique. Give it a try!

Scott

Scott

Some people are like slinky toys, not
really good for anything, but still bring
a smile to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs....

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mfa Registered since 19th Nov 2005Tue 22-Nov-05 01:49 PM
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Pelennor Fields, US
          

Very nice. I ordered an IR filter this weekend, so this makes me look forward in anticipation even more.

I noticed only 2 of the shots had aperature and shutter speed listed. Were these done on auto and the others done manually?

Did you do the WB thing from the other thread?

Could you see the results on the camera's LCD?

Did you do any processing on these images before uploading them?

Thanks!

  

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Aphex Registered since 30th Oct 2005Tue 22-Nov-05 02:40 PM
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NL
          

Being inspired by your photo's, I have also bought the Hoya IR filter. Until now, I didn't thought it would work that good with a DSLR because of the IR filter on the CCD. At 67 mm, it was a bit expensive, but I am sure it is worth it. I'm looking forward to try it out.

  

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albano Registered since 12th Nov 2005Tue 22-Nov-05 03:06 PM
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Buenos Aires, AR
          

This specific filter is not available here. Any dark red one will do? there's a generic way to call them?
Thanks

Albano García
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bernie76 Basic MemberTue 22-Nov-05 05:36 PM
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San Diego, US
          

Albano,
The filter is just called an infrared, or IR filter. There are several manifacturers. The Heliopan 715nm/ Wratten 89b, 87 and 87c/ B+W 093, 092 are similiar, but more expensive filters. I have no experience with these, you might search the internet for more info.

mfa,

I didn't have much luck with trying to preset the WB. I just went with auto, mainly because I was also taking regular pics at the same time, and i'm too lazy to switch back and forth. Sorry I didn't enter all the picture data in my gallery, creating a gallery is a little tedious, and it was late and I'm lazy.
You have to play around with th exposure, but most of these were taken between f3.5 and f7, with shutter speeds about 1/10 - 1/30. You need to shoot in bright sun, low light doesn't work so well.
You will see the photo on the LCD, it just has a red cast. You can see it well enough to see if it is under or over exposed.
I bring these into photoshot and process them in two slightly diffent ways. first: auto levels, then desatuate, or secondly, desaturate then auto levels. These two methods give different results, not better or worse, just different. Use which ever gives the result you like best.

The biggest hassle is you have to have the filter off the camera to frame and focus, then put the filter on to shoot. (you can't see through the filter) So you are constantly taking it off and on, increasing your probablity of dropping it.

cheers,

Scott

Scott

Some people are like slinky toys, not
really good for anything, but still bring
a smile to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs....

  

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mfa Registered since 19th Nov 2005Wed 23-Nov-05 04:06 PM
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Pelennor Fields, US
          

>You will see the photo on the LCD, it just has a red cast.
>You can see it well enough to see if it is under or over
>exposed.
...
>The biggest hassle is you have to have the filter off the
>camera to frame and focus, then put the filter on to shoot.
>(you can't see through the filter) So you are constantly
>taking it off and on, increasing your probablity of dropping
>it.

For doing landscape shots like you were doing, it seems like you could set the focus on manual & infinity and then shoot, evaluate LCD, reframe, reshoot until you like the shot composition. Deleting bad shots later sounds easier & safer than taking the filter on/off. Thought?

  

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mfa Registered since 19th Nov 2005Wed 23-Nov-05 04:18 PM
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Pelennor Fields, US
          

>Albano,
>The filter is just called an infrared, or IR filter. There
>are several manifacturers. The Heliopan 715nm/ Wratten 89b,
>87 and 87c/ B+W 093, 092 are similiar, but more expensive
>filters. ...

The filter you used (Hoya RM72) only passes light with a wavelength of 720 nano-meters or longer. (Longer being further down into infared and further away from the visible spectrum.) They also make an RM90 which passes 900 nm and longer, that is, deeper into infrared.

The designations you are quoting as equivalent might be related to wavelength. Without actually trying an 870 or 900 nm filter on the D50, I'd be hesitant to say the results would be as good.

  

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Aphex Registered since 30th Oct 2005Tue 22-Nov-05 05:39 PM
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#5. "RE: D-50 and Infrared photos, revisited...."
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NL
          

Wratten 89B is another name for the 720nm IR-filter. Hoya calls it R72. B+W also has one I believe.

Dark red is also suitable, but it has a more subtle effect.

  

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bernie76 Basic MemberTue 22-Nov-05 06:04 PM
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San Diego, US
          

Albano,

I purchased my filter off ebay. The seller I purchased from is a regular dealer, and indicates in his ads that he ships worldwide. We aren't suppose to link to ebay auctions here, but if you do a search on ebay for Hoya Infrared IR R72 Filter, you will find it. Mostly this dealer just sells filters.

Cheers,

Scott

Scott

Some people are like slinky toys, not
really good for anything, but still bring
a smile to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs....

  

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bernie76 Basic MemberTue 22-Nov-05 11:19 PM
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San Diego, US
          

At first looking at the pics on my computer screen, I was a little dissapointed in my IR shots, in that they seemed a little too soft. Well I just got some printed, and I was shocked but pleased at the result. They come out very sharp and clear. IR photos make beautiful prints. And I had them printed at Costco!

I love technology.....

Scott

Scott

Some people are like slinky toys, not
really good for anything, but still bring
a smile to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs....

  

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MINGZNIKONIAN Registered since 28th Oct 2005Wed 23-Nov-05 01:24 AM
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Regina, CA
          

Awesome pic!

MINGZCAN

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Aleks Registered since 29th Oct 2005Wed 23-Nov-05 02:44 AM
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Calgary, CA
          

How come they don't turn out blueish green like some others I've seen, almost negative like? These almost look black/white but reversed....

D80 | MB-D80 Grip | Nikkor 50mm f1.8D | Nikkor 85mm f1.8D | Nikkor 18-70mm f 3.5/4.6G ED | Nikkor 70-300mm f 4/5.6G ED | Tamron 90mm f 2.8 Macro | Nikon SB-600

  

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bernie76 Basic MemberWed 23-Nov-05 04:10 PM
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#11. "RE: D-50 and Infrared photos, revisited...."
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San Diego, US
          

Aleks,

It all depends on the post processing in photoshop, or other software. There is no right or wrong way to do this.
Right out of the camera IR photos have a red cast, which isn't too appealing. So you start playing in the software and add any color hue you like. With these old buildings in Balboa park, I just felt a black and white look worked best.

Cheers,

Scott

Scott

Some people are like slinky toys, not
really good for anything, but still bring
a smile to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs....

  

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