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Rick_Smith   US  Registered since 08th Jan 2011 Fri 14-Jan-11 07:23 PM
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"does the D40 have a defective light meter?"



I read on Ken Rockwell's site that the D40 has a defective meter, and should leave the exposure compensation to -0.7. I wanted to see what the general thoughts were on this.

Is this something everyone agrees with you? Should I do this? I take 95% of my pictures indoors.

Also, when using a flash (like the sb-600) would I still want to do this?

Thanks.

  

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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? gkaiseril Gold Member
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? Rick_Smith
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     Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? gkaiseril Gold Member
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          Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? Rick_Smith
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               Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? Asgard Administrator He is your Chief Guardian Angel at the Helpdesk and knows a lot about a lot
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills
14th Jan 2011
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? kathloh
27th Jan 2011
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? Hotswimmer Silver Member
31st Jan 2011
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? Len Shepherd Gold Member
31st Jan 2011
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Reply message RE: does the D40 have a defective light meter? CerocEric
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gkaiseril Gold Member  Chicago, US  Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005 Fri 14-Jan-11 08:12 PM
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>I read on Ken Rockwell's site that the D40 has a defective meter, and should leave the exposure compensation to -0.7. I wanted to see what the general thoughts were on this.

Have you checked which way the KR wind is blowing smoke?

>Is this something everyone agrees with you? Should I do this? I take 95% of my pictures indoors.

Experience will indicate this. You can always check your histogram and lost highlights.

>Also, when using a flash (like the sb-600) would I still want to do this?

Flash exposure is computed independently from the ambient light exposure. So if your flash is the majority of illumination (more than 2 f stops of illumination), ambient illumination does not come into play.

George
My Nikonian Galleries

  

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Rick_Smith   US  Registered since 08th Jan 2011 Fri 14-Jan-11 08:16 PM
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>>I read on Ken Rockwell's site that the D40 has a
>defective meter, and should leave the exposure compensation to
>-0.7. I wanted to see what the general thoughts were on this.
>
>Have you checked which way the KR wind is blowing smoke?
>
>>Is this something everyone agrees with you? Should I do
>this? I take 95% of my pictures indoors.
>
>Experience will indicate this. You can always check your
>histogram and lost highlights.
>
>>Also, when using a flash (like the sb-600) would I still
>want to do this?
>
>Flash exposure is computed independently from the ambient
>light exposure. So if your flash is the majority of
>illumination (more than 2 f stops of illumination), ambient
>illumination does not come into play.

Thanks for the info. I have a sb-600, and a D40. How do I know how many stops it is providing?

  

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gkaiseril Gold Member  Chicago, US  Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005 Fri 14-Jan-11 09:40 PM
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Fri 14-Jan-11 09:42 PM by gkaiseril


You check the image histogram and lost highlights image review screens.

For playback see pages 50-54, Highlights page 52, Histogram page 52 or your user manual.
For Exposure Compensation see page 47 of your user manual. It is zero unless your have set it to something else.

Understanding Your Digital Camera\'s Histogram by Digital Darrel
"Understanding Histograms"
Your Friend, the Histogram Earthbound Light

George
My Nikonian Galleries

  

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Rick_Smith   US  Registered since 08th Jan 2011 Fri 14-Jan-11 09:42 PM
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>You check the image histogram and lost highlights image
>review screens.
>
>For playback see pages 50-54, Highlights page 52, Histogram
>page 52.
>
>Understanding
>Your Digital Camera's Histogram> by Digital Darrel
>

>"Understanding Histograms">
>
Your
>Friend, the Histogram> Earthbound Light
>

Are those page numbers in the manual?

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas   US  Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007 Fri 14-Jan-11 10:23 PM
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Hi Rick,

Yes! Here is a pdf copy of the D40 Users Manual
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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Asgard Administrator He is your Chief Guardian Angel at the Helpdesk and knows a lot about a lot   East Frisia, DE  Nikonian since 07th Apr 2004 Fri 14-Jan-11 08:40 PM
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Rick,

Make your images with basic settings.

If you are unhappy with the result, ask here for help.

We will tell you what to do.

But don't forget KR.

Gerold - Nikonian in East Frisia
Eala Freya Fresena

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas   US  Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007 Fri 14-Jan-11 10:28 PM
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Hi Rick,

KR comments should be taken with a grain of salt.
He makes outragious statments to increase traffic to his site in order to generate more income.
If you are happy with the images captured by your D40 without any exposure compensation dialed in why change what works for you?
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills   Paignton, UK  Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003 Fri 14-Jan-11 10:48 PM
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>I read on Ken Rockwell's site that the D40 has a
>defective meter...

No, it doesn't. Don't worry about it

Brian
Welsh Nikonian

  

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kathloh   Palo Alto, US  Registered since 24th Jan 2011 Thu 27-Jan-11 07:39 AM
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I never realized KR said that... But I'd tend to agree. I almost always have my camera set to 'under' expose by one or two stops, because I tend to see more blown out highlights than I'd like. But, I think it's also a matter of personal preference.

  

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Hotswimmer Silver Member  Annapolis, US  Nikonian since 01st Apr 2008 Mon 31-Jan-11 03:15 AM
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Mon 31-Jan-11 04:13 AM by Hotswimmer


I've read from more reliable sources that Nikon's consumer cameras are simply set to meter a little bit hotter; this isn't a defect. My experience has been that when you're shooting in bright daylight, the camera does sometimes overexpose a little bit, and a touch of negative exposure compensation gives you a more pleasing photo. Shooting under more moderate lighting conditions or indoors, I found the metering to be pretty good. Again, as others have said, the histogram and the highlight tool on the camera's display are great for helping you flesh out the correct exposure setting.

ETA: I assume everyone on this board has read this by now, but in case you haven't, here's Thom Hogan's excellent and very technical review of the D40, where among many other things, he talks about the metering: http://bythom.com/d40review.htm

  

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Len Shepherd Gold Member  Yorkshire, UK  Nikonian since 09th Mar 2003 Mon 31-Jan-11 09:34 AM
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Does anybody with a wide knowledge of photography trust Ken, or do they believe more than 5% of what Ken writes?
Other highly regarded reviewers are not reporting an exposure problem.
Put another way on a scale of 1 to 10 for reliability, with one being low, Ken often struggles to reach 1.
If you want consistent accurate advice - my advice is forget Ken.

Photography is a bit like archery. A technically better camera, lens or arrow may not hit the target as often as it could if the photographer or archer does not practice enough.

Len Shepherd

  

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CerocEric   UK  Registered since 23rd Feb 2011 Wed 23-Feb-11 10:53 PM
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Wed 23-Feb-11 10:55 PM by CerocEric


It's disputable. The world does not consist of 36% grey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_System
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/zone.htm

It's a creative thing: if you want (part of) the image darker than mid-range, give it less exposure. If you have a contrasty subject, set 'optimize image' to 'softer'.

It would be great marketing to have a Zone System function in a Digital camera!

Now where did my f:64 go ?

  

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