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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 19-Jan-09 04:22 AM
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"50mm 1.8 with D60."


CA
          

hey everybody, first time being on this forum
i recently bought the 50 1.8.
i love it, i love how it can blur the background a lot.
but the problem is. there isn't auto focus with the d60, and i did have some problems focusing

http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q244/cklwilliam/Paula%20portrait/

if you take a look at this album, you'd notice some pictures arent perfectly focus.

in the view finder i found it hard to focus, it looks like its focus in there but when the shot comes out, its blurry.

anyone got any technique or suggestion focusing on a D60 with the 50mm ?
also please please please comment on the photos, i'm still learning how to take better shots!!
thanks
William

  

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capitaltpt Registered since 23rd Jan 2008Mon 19-Jan-09 04:26 AM
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#1. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Dayton, US
          

William,

There is a green dot that appears in the bottom left of the viewfinder when the camera locks focus. Although it's not 100%, it may help you achieve better focus in some of your pictures. You might also want to look at replacing the focus screen in the D60 with a Katz Eye screen. I used one of these in my D40 and helped make for lots more keepers.


~Bryan
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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 19-Jan-09 04:30 AM
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#2. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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CA
          

um.. yes i did kno about the green dot, but i still found it kind of off,
it seems like its always flashing even when its not focus

is it hard to install the split screen? where can i find it?

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Mon 19-Jan-09 05:33 AM
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#3. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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US
          

Hi William,

The Katz eye focusing screens are available at the Nikonians Photo Pro Shop. Here is a link: https://www.photoproshop.com/usa/product_info.php/cPath/64/products_id/526?osCsid=2c4d9bc3ab4765535f7a314883228915
This should also fit your D60. Good Luck!

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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#4. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

I whole-heartedy recommend the KatzEye. I give my reasons (as well as my views on installation) in another thread.

And if you do get a KatzEye, and you like to shoot in low light or with smaller apertures (just because you have a fast lens doesn't mean you want to shoot with it wide open all the time, but once installed the KatzEye is simply installed. It'll help you manual focus wide open regardless, but when you're shooting with smaller apertures it's also really nice to have that extra light pouring in to help you see while you focus through that tiny little hole in the diaphragm. It adds even more expense, but in my opinion it's seriously worth it.

However, if you're really into photography so much that you can see yourself outgrowing your D60 within the year, you might want to sell your 50mm f/1.8 and buy a 50mm AF-S f/1.4 instead. It will auto-focus on D60, it offers the possibility of even shallower depth-of-field (an even thinner slice of the world that is in focus, to make the subject really pop out), and even more beautiful bokeh (the character of the beautiful fuzzy background).

The advantages of getting the KatzEye is that you'll learn to manual focus, which is a fantastic life-skill for a photographer to have anyway. The disadvantage is that you'll only recoup part of your money if you sell the D60.

If you sell the f/1.8 and buy an AF-S f/1.4 instead (make SURE its the new, e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e AF-S version!) you'll be out about the same amount of money, will be able to use the lens on any camera you buy, and save learning to manual focus until you want to rather than having to cram it in when you otherwise might not have been ready yet.

Good luck whatever you decide!

-- LaDonna

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 19-Jan-09 07:52 PM
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#5. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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CA
          

got any idea how much is that len ?? and where can i find it in canada?

  

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#8. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>got any idea how much is that len ?? and where can i find it
>in canada?


I have no idea where to buy things in Canada, but here is the lens I was referring to.

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 19-Jan-09 08:14 PM
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#10. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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CA
          

oh one more question, can this focus screen be removed back to the factory screen when you dont want it anymore?

  

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Cookies35 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2007Mon 19-Jan-09 08:16 PM
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#11. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>oh one more question, can this focus screen be removed back
>to the factory screen when you dont want it anymore?


Yup! Just be sure that whoever is handling the screens when it gets installed in the first place knows what they're doing, keeps everything needed for reversing the process, and you keep it all safe in the meantime. I use the same box KatzEye sends its screen in to store the "original" screen until I want it put back into the camera. Works like a charm.

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#20. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Mon 02-Feb-09 09:50 PM by MotoMannequin

Livermore, CA, US
          

>just because you have a fast lens doesn't mean you want to shoot
>with it wide open all the time ... when you're shooting with
>smaller apertures it's also really nice to have that extra light
>pouring in to help you see while you focus through that tiny little
>hole in the diaphragm.

Hi LaDonna,

I'm a little confused by what you're suggesting here. When you focus, the lens is always wide open, regardless of your aperture setting. It only stops down the instant you take the shot. (Or when you press the DOF button, which the D60 doesn't have.) Even if you have a DOF button, you would never focus while holding it. It's always most accurate to set focus with the most light and shallowest DOF, which is why the camera works the way it does, leaving the lens wide open until time for exposure.

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#28. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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TampaBay, US
          

How does this work? Meaning, how does it help you focus?

>I whole-heartedy recommend the >href="http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/item--Nikon-D40-D60-Focusing-Screen--prod_D40.html"]KatzEye.
>I give my reasons (as well as my views on installation) in >href="http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=150&topic_id=228185&mesg_id=228185&listing_type=read_new#228225"]another
>thread.
>
>And if you do get a KatzEye, and you like to shoot in low
>light or with smaller apertures (just because you have a fast
>lens doesn't mean you want to shoot with it wide open all the
>time, but once installed the KatzEye is simply installed.
>It'll help you manual focus wide open regardless, but when
>you're shooting with smaller apertures it's also really nice
>to have that extra light pouring in to help you see while you
>focus through that tiny little hole in the diaphragm. It adds
>even more expense, but in my opinion it's seriously worth it.
>
>However, if you're really into photography so much that you
>can see yourself outgrowing your D60 within the year, you
>might want to sell your 50mm f/1.8 and buy a 50mm AF-S f/1.4
>instead. It will auto-focus on D60, it offers the possibility
>of even shallower depth-of-field (an even thinner slice of the
>world that is in focus, to make the subject really pop out),
>and even more beautiful bokeh (the character of the beautiful
>fuzzy background).
>
>The advantages of getting the KatzEye is that you'll learn to
>manual focus, which is a fantastic life-skill for a
>photographer to have anyway. The disadvantage is that you'll
>only recoup part of your money if you sell the D60.
>
>If you sell the f/1.8 and buy an AF-S f/1.4 instead (make SURE
>its the new, e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e AF-S version!) you'll be out
>about the same amount of money, will be able to use the lens
>on any camera you buy, and save learning to manual focus until
>you want to rather than having to cram it in when you
>otherwise might not have been ready yet.
>
>Good luck whatever you decide!
>
>-- LaDonna
>
>_________________________________
>A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Nikonian from Tampa Bay, FL.
www.plcarrillophotography.com

  

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#29. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Wed 04-Feb-09 01:14 AM by hawk114

US
          

The KatzEye split prism screen replaces the focusing screen in the camera and provides you with a screen similar to the old (rangefinder) (edit- no, not rangefinder. I meant the older film SLRs) Nikons with the split screen prism. The portion of the frame in the center is split between top and bottom with the top shifted to one side when you are not in focus. As you come to focus the split images line up. It is easier to line up the split image than it is to try to get the little green dot to remain steady. There is also a ring around the center split prism that snaps into focus when you reach correct focus.

These visual cues are easier to see than working with the green dot (or even the rangefinder feature on the D60, now that I learned how to use it. LOL)

For more information check out the KatzEye website:
http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/item--Nikon-D40-D60-Focusing-Screen--prod_D40.html
http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/faq--basics--20.html

Michael

  

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#30. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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TampaBay, US
          

ok, thanks.

>The KatzEye split prism screen replaces the focusing screen
>in the camera and provides you with a screen similar to the
>old rangefinder Nikons with the split screen prism. The
>portion of the frame in the center is split between top and
>bottom with the top shifted to one side when you are not in
>focus. As you come to focus the split images line up. It is
>easier to line up the split image than it is to try to get the
>little green dot to remain steady. There is also a ring
>around the center split prism that snaps into focus when you
>reach correct focus.
>
>These visual cues are easier to see than working with the
>green dot (or even the rangefinder feature on the D60, now
>that I learned how to use it. LOL)
>
>For more information check out the KatzEye website:
>http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/item--Nikon-D40-D60-Focusing-Screen--prod_D40.html
>http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/faq--basics--20.html

Nikonian from Tampa Bay, FL.
www.plcarrillophotography.com

  

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#31. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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TampaBay, US
          

Got the 50mm and the KatzEye. nice, very nice. Thank you!!!!!

Nikonian from Tampa Bay, FL.
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#32. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>Got the 50mm and the KatzEye. nice, very nice. Thank you!!!!!

Gorgeous!!! Did you shoot this using manual focus?

Welcome to the KatzEye fun club!

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#34. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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TampaBay, US
          

Yeah, no chioce.

>>Got the 50mm and the
>KatzEye. nice, very nice. Thank you!!!!!

>
>Gorgeous!!! Did you shoot this using manual focus?
>
>Welcome to the KatzEye fun club!
>
>— LaDonna
>
>_________________________________
>A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Nikonian from Tampa Bay, FL.
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#35. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>Yeah, no chioce.

Oops! That was pretty obvious. LaDonna seriously not keeping her eye on the ball. Dumb-de-dumb-dumb.

Nicely done!

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#33. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>is it hard to install the split screen?

You won't find many people at all who say the things are "easy" to install. However, you will find tons of veteran photographers who encourage you to install your own. In my opinion that's really bad advice.

If you install itself without knowing what you're doing or without using professional made-explicitly-for-the-task tools, you run the risk of at least scratching the screen, and the scratches will then be visible whenever you look through the viewfinder. Even worse, you run the risk of scratching the camera's internal parts, which is the single worst thing you could do to your camera, worse even than dropping it on cement if you can imagine that.

In addition, I'm rather skittish about my warranty. If anything goes wrong with my camera innards and my camera is still under warranty, I want to be able to take the thing to Nikon and have them fix it free of charge, without leaving them the possible Get-Out-Of-Obligation-Fee card of being able to say that what's wrong with the camera was (in their cheap, self-serving opinion) caused by improper messing about in the camera innards by an unauthorisized orangutan.

So what I do is have Nikon install the thing.

I took my camera to the closest Nikon Service Center and they installed it for me. In theory the service costs € 30, but since I was standing there and it takes less time for them to install it than it does to work up the paperwork, they did it for free! They even gave me an "invoice" for the service so that if anything happened to the camera in the future I could prove that it was Nikon that did the work. That's back when I was a brand new dSLR mother, and everything was scary.

The truth is, anybody who seriously knows what they're doing can install it for you: a Nikon rep at a local "Check-n-Clean" Day, a Nikon rep at a photo expo, a local camera shop, you name it. If you buy the thing directly from KatzEye Optics, you can mail them your camera and for a (hefty) fee they'll install it for you. Make sure the person not only installs it, but also calibrates the installation (like Nikon and KatzEye Optics do as a matter of course) . There's not much use in having a focusing screen that focusing on someplace the camera isn't pointing.

— LaDonna

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#41. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Anchorage, US
          

is it hard to install the split screen? where can i find it?

Not hard at all. Despite what others may say.

When I was looking for a focus screen for my D300 I wandered into the katzeye site. http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/ Read their FAQ's and downloaded the install pdf for the D300.

They have a 10% winter discount right now. With the discount and all the bells and whistles (opti bright / plus treatment) it was less total shipped than any other place.

It arrived in today's mail. Seven days from order to delivery. 10 minutes later it was installed and I was busy testing it with a couple of manual focus lens on the D300.

Katz Eye even included a nifty little probe to unlatch the wire bail holding the existing screen.

No muss, no fuss.

Best money I spent on a Nikon DSLR to date. I may need to do it to my D80 as well.

Alaska Nikonian

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#6. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>please please please comment on the photos, i'm still
>learning how to take better shots!! thanks


I'm still a beginner too! But the one thing I hear all the time about focusing on people is to make sure you focus on the eyes. If the depth of field is REALLY shallow, I think you're supposed to either pick the eye closest to you and go for it, or reduce the aperture so the depth of field is deep enough for both eyes to be in focus. In theory, anyway, as far as I understand it.

Anyway, #11 doesn't seem to be so much out of focus as focused on the braces. Could that be the case?

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#7. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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CA
          

ummm... i always tried to focus on the eyes, but i can't really tell in that view finder, guessi have bad eyes = /
but ya.. that's wat i aimed for.
i need to kno more about lighting too

  

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#9. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>ummm... i always tried to focus on the eyes, but i can't
>really tell in that view finder, guessi have bad eyes = /
>but ya.. that's wat i aimed for.

I hear you! My biggest problem with manual focus is definitely the eyes, not the technique! (Although the technique runs a close second at the moment )

>i need to kno more about lighting too
Can't help you there. I'm a "let's stick to trying to learn one thing at a time" kinda girl myself ...

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#12. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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AncientPC Registered since 25th Jan 2009Mon 02-Feb-09 03:17 AM
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#13. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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When using manual focus with the D60, keep in mind that in addition to the focus dot the exposure meter will also be used to tell you how out of focus you are.

  

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 02-Feb-09 03:21 AM
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#14. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Mon 02-Feb-09 03:44 AM by cklwilliam

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ummmm how does it work?

edit: ah, i just tried, that meter thing actualy helps ! now i kno what to watch for!
thanks!

  

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hawk114 Registered since 07th May 2007Mon 02-Feb-09 04:02 PM
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#15. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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What is it I am looking for when trying to use the exposure meter to help manual focus? I just tried it and do not see anything in the viewfinder changing as I change focus other than the green dot.

Michael

  

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 02-Feb-09 06:20 PM
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#16. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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its that bar to the right near the middle
when the object is focus it should be in the middle
if its out of focus it would be either left or right

when it's focus, it would be in the middle and the green light will flash

  

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hawk114 Registered since 07th May 2007Mon 02-Feb-09 06:33 PM
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#17. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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I'm sorry. I am feeling quite dense here. But on my D60 when I look in the viewfinder, if I have the program dial on manual, it will show an exposure scale. However, rotating the control wheel is the only thing that changes that scale (by changing the exposure speed). When I rotate the focus ring on the lens it has no effect on the exposure scale reading at all. Only the green dot first appears blinking and then steady when I reach focus. What am I missing here?

Confused.

Michael

  

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Mon 02-Feb-09 07:06 PM
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#18. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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oh, that only works in Apperature and Shutter mode

  

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hawk114 Registered since 07th May 2007Mon 02-Feb-09 08:49 PM
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#19. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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I just tried it in both Aperture and Shutter priority modes. Same result. In fact the exposure scale only appears when you do not have a correct exposure setting. When the shutter/aperture combination, whatever it is, produces a correct exposure, the scale does not even appear. So I am still at a loss to understand how you are getting any kind of focus information from the exposure scale.

Michael

  

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Tue 03-Feb-09 12:49 AM
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#21. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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hold the button half way and focus the object inside the red brackets, then you should see it

  

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hawk114 Registered since 07th May 2007Tue 03-Feb-09 01:37 AM
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#22. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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I have done that. I still cannot understand how you are getting anything other than exposure information from the exposure scale.

Michael

  

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bdavison Registered since 31st Dec 2008Tue 03-Feb-09 03:09 PM
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#23. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Tue 03-Feb-09 03:11 PM by bdavison

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You have to activate this feature.
Its called "rangefinder" by nikon...not sure why.
This feature is available in all the modes except manual.

To activate it
Press "Menu"
Goto the "pencil" menu
Scroll down to "rangefinder"
Press "OK"
Scroll to "on"
Press "OK"

Now frame a picture and turn the focus ring. You will see the focus indicated not only on the focus dot, but also on the graduated scale.

With the rangefinder option on, while shooting in any mode except Manual, the graduated scale will show focus while in MF mode.
An in focus shot, will be indicated with the || in the middle of the scale.

If you switch back to AF mode, the scale will return to indicating exposure. You may notice that it seems to disappear in A,S,P, etc modes. But its still there and will reappear if you make changes that would require seeing the exposure scale.

Bear in mind that in manual mode, the graduated scale will ALWAYS show exposure regardless of if rangefinder is on or off.



  

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hawk114 Registered since 07th May 2007Tue 03-Feb-09 03:29 PM
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#24. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Thank you, William! That was the missing link. I was unaware of that feature on the camera. Thank you very much for the explanation.

Michael

  

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bdavison Registered since 31st Dec 2008Tue 03-Feb-09 03:41 PM
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#25. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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Your welcome...this drove me nuts too.
The range finder works much better for manual focus then trying to watch that little dot.

I would highly recommend reading the manual cover to cover...literally. There are lots of neat features in the D60, that many people dont use, that are covered in the manual.

Enjoy.

  

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cklwilliam Registered since 07th Jan 2009Tue 03-Feb-09 07:19 PM
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#26. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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lol sorry, i totally didnt know about that rangefinder thing

  

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hawk114 Registered since 07th May 2007Tue 03-Feb-09 09:26 PM
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#27. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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No problem. The nice thing is we all learn something from the questions that get asked. As you can see, the rangefinder option was turned off on my camera.

Michael

  

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PeteCamp Registered since 25th Oct 2008Thu 19-Feb-09 02:55 PM
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#36. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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"You won't find many people at all who say the things are "easy" to install. However, you will find tons of veteran photographers who encourage you to install your own. In my opinion that's really bad advice."

I have to respectfully disagree on this point. I am but one of many who have changed focus screens on Nikons. There are very explicit instructions that include pictures and even video that show you exactly how to do it. I am an engineer by education and former profession, so I will not tell you whether or not it is "easy" to do. I can tell you that it took me a total of 30 minutes and that included quite a bit of just careful looking. If you do it exactly as shown you are working away from everything critical. Just be sure to use the tools supplied with the focus screen kit to install it.

On the flickr "No Metering Lenses on Nikon DSLR's" there are many folks who even cut their own screens for D40/X/60's from ones made for other Nikons.

I took a chance and bought one of the Chinese copy focus screens for $25 delivered off of E-Bay. It is a split screen and works perfectly. I can put my Nikon screen back in the camera any time. My D40 looks and works through the viewfinder better than my FE now. Look at the instructions before you decide to pay someone to do this.

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Cookies35 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2007Thu 19-Feb-09 11:03 PM
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#37. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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>I have to respectfully disagree on this point.

That's why they're called opinions!

The reason I said "really bad advice," as opposed to merely "I don't do it myself," is that the person asking the question wants a KatzEye in order to focus a 50mm f/1.8 on his D60. The best path to take always depends on who's doing the asking.

The OP isn't available at the moment for us to ask him (come on, William, we know you're out there … you gonna spring for the 25 bucks or what? ), but my guess is that somebody buying a KatzEye to use a 50mm f/1.8 on a D60 is probably a relative beginner, and doesn't have a whole lot of other gear or experience. For someone in that position I do believe that installing your own screen is one of those "don't try this at home, folks" kind of skills.

If I read your profile correctly it sounds like you learned how to install screens back when a starter camera + lens didn't cost $600, and moreover, a camera wasn't just a micro-computer with a lens slapped on the front (another Nikonian taught me that expression; I love it! — it's just too true). I don't know how many parts on the inside of a film camera have the characteristic that the simplest imperceptible flick would cripple the entire camera, but on a dSLR it's quite a few of the little guys.

No to mention the whole calibration thing.

These days, with so much on the line, I'd say an extra $30 is worth it to have somebody who knows what he's doing messing about inside your half-a-grand little mini-computer, at least until somebody has built up quite a bit of experience. And that's if, given a little patience and gratification-postponement, you can't find a professional to do it for free, which you most likely can.

My 2¢ anyway!

Thanks for responding though. I hadn't noticed it, but by the time I responded the guy's 25 days were up. And who knows, maybe this thread will be read by more experienced folks than just newbies. It's really good for everybody to be able to weigh both sides, and work out which solution fits their own situation and personality.

And I've got to remember to qualify my posts, with stuff like "if you're a newbie, then in my opinion … " Yup, I'll have to remember to do that.

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Cookies35 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2007Thu 19-Feb-09 11:16 PM
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#38. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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“You won't find many people at all who say the things are ‘easy’ to install. However, you will find tons of veteran photographers who encourage you to install your own. In my opinion that's really bad advice.”



Btw Pete,

Here's a tip for using the interface:

If you want to respond to a particular post it helps if you click "reply" at the bottom of the post you're responding to, rather than the one at the bottom of the last post in the list. That way, those of us who read the posts in threaded mode rather than linear mode see your response directly after what you're responding to. Makes it easier to keep track of the conversation.

In addition, if you click on "reply with quote" instead of just "reply," the post you're responding to appears in the reply window so you don't have to type it out yourself. That's really handy.

Be sure to delete the bits you aren't responding to. Otherwise your post will be horrifically long, and it will take a lot of scanning and scrolling through the irrelevant bits to find your response — not to mention fishing out whatever it is that you're responding to.

Hope this helps! And keep up the good (posting) work.

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PeteCamp Registered since 25th Oct 2008Fri 20-Feb-09 05:13 AM
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#39. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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WOW! Nine paragraphs to respond to my little opinion about putting a focus screen in my D40. As for computers with a camera on the front, I'll just leave you some terms of some busy little guys I helped design/implement during my years as a professional engineer. You can look them up:
TERCOM - DSMAC - Trident D5 - BGM-109 - AGM-129A

(Please note there is no place for all this in my profile - I thought most of that only applied to my hobby and current profession.)

My opinion: If someone can tighten the screws on their eyeglasses, they probably would have no problem with a focus screen in a DSLR. A good way for a newbie to move beyond being a complete newbie just might be a little satisfaction of doing the job him/herself.

Working in threaded mode BTW

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Cookies35 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2007Fri 20-Feb-09 10:10 AM
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#40. "RE: 50mm 1.8 with D60."
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NL
          

>WOW! Nine paragraphs to respond to my little opinion about
>putting a focus screen in my D40.

Yeah, and I don't charge extra either.


>As for computers with a
>camera on the front, I'll just leave you some terms of some
>busy little guys I helped design/implement during my years as
>a professional engineer. You can look them up:
>TERCOM - DSMAC - Trident D5 - BGM-109 - AGM-129A

No need to look them up. Just goes to make my point even more strongly. You've clearly developed a steady hand that the average civilian doesn't have. All the more reason to be a little sparing with advice to "do as I do" until you know more about the person's background


>Working in threaded mode BTW
That's the spirit!!!


— LaDonna, career Army brat, daughter of a 28-year vet [MSG (Ret) — think SCPO(Ret), but then grunt-issue ]

(You're not the only one with a little background knowledge that doesn't exactly fit in the profile. )

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