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FastNOC Registered since 24th Sep 2008Wed 24-Sep-08 08:05 PM
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"D60 question"


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Here's the skinny before asking this. I'm a newbie in DSLR's. that's probably obvious since I bought an entry level camera. But I have questions.

I know NOTHING about these things. but I am going to learn. One question i have. Does this camera have the ability to automatically take pics? like, hold the button down and it just keeps taking them? I swear I saw someone do that on a tutorial on Google.

Next, I have the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm G VR Lens that came with the body. What should I look at for another all purpose lens?

Next, should I be buying a bunch of accessories or play it by ear? Are there a few things that everyone with a DSLR just needs to have?

I'll probably drive you guys nuts for the next week but trust me I'll get the hang of it.

  

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OrlandoRealtor Registered since 28th May 2008Wed 24-Sep-08 09:35 PM
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#1. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

Congrats on the purchase! The D60 is a great camera.
1. Yes you can do shots 3 ps continuous mode The setup is in the manual I think on page 54.

2. I have the 55-200mm Nikon Vr lens. This would give you a nice combination and can be picked up reasonably. around 150 or so on ebay.

3.I would get a good cirular Polarizer. Bought a Hoya myself. It is good for when you are out in the bright sun, Like sunglass's for your camera. Bought Bryan Petersons "Understanding Exposure" which is an excellent book and just ordered David Busch's Digital Field Guide for the Nikon D60. Make sure you have a lens pen for cleaning the lens and a rocket blower in case dust gets on the mirror. There are other things you can get but these will get you started.

Enjoy your camera and just keep shooting!! The more you take, the better you get. Start out in the automatic mode and branch out into the Aperture,Shutter Priority and Manual modes as you learn. Film is cheap. lol. Jerry



>Here's the skinny before asking this. I'm a newbie in DSLR's.
>that's probably obvious since I bought an entry level camera.
> But I have questions.
>
>I know NOTHING about these things. but I am going to learn.
>One question i have. Does this camera have the ability to
>automatically take pics? like, hold the button down and it
>just keeps taking them? I swear I saw someone do that on a
>tutorial on Google.
>
>Next, I have the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm G VR Lens that came
>with the body. What should I look at for another all purpose
>lens?
>
>Next, should I be buying a bunch of accessories or play it by
>ear? Are there a few things that everyone with a DSLR just
>needs to have?
>
>I'll probably drive you guys nuts for the next week but trust
>me I'll get the hang of it.

  

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sillyconguru Registered since 31st Oct 2005Wed 24-Sep-08 09:40 PM
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#2. "RE: D60 question"
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GB
          

>Does this camera have the ability to
>automatically take pics? like, hold the button down and it
>just keeps taking them? I swear I saw someone do that on a
>tutorial on Google.

Continuous shooting mode? Yes, the camera has this. See pages 54 & 55 of the user manual.

>Next, I have the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm G VR Lens that came
>with the body. What should I look at for another all purpose
>lens?

How "all purpose"? The lens you have is quite fine as it is. Are you finding that you can't get a wide enough view or that you don't get enough 'reach' with the lens you have?

>Next, should I be buying a bunch of accessories or play it by
>ear? Are there a few things that everyone with a DSLR just
>needs to have?

You may find yourself wanting just about everything you see, such is the curse of DSLR ownership.

  

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FastNOC Registered since 24th Sep 2008Wed 24-Sep-08 09:47 PM
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#3. "RE: D60 question"
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Wed 24-Sep-08 09:48 PM by FastNOC

US
          

continuous that's what I was looking for! Thanks!

As for the lens, i think what I'm missing is id like to be able to have better reach. I'd like to be able to bring objects that are at a distance up as close as possible.

I'm also interested in a macro lense for extreme closeups.

Right now most of my pictures are going to be on a litter of kittens I'm foster raising with mom. It blew me away how good they came out when I started, and how much it topped the pics I was taking with my HD HDD camcorder.


>Continuous shooting mode? Yes, the camera has this. See pages
>54 & 55 of the user manual.
>
>How "all purpose"? The lens you have is quite fine
>as it is. Are you finding that you can't get a wide enough
>view or that you don't get enough 'reach' with the lens you
>have?
>
--------
Thanks! I've been wanting to do this for years, I just finally decided this will be my real hobby. So i have to start somewhere. Figured a good entry level camera would be a good start.

I'm amazed how high quality the photos are on auto mode. It blows me away. I had intended on getting some books to read so I appreciate those suggestions.

>Congrats on the purchase! The D60 is a great camera.
>1. Yes you can do shots 3 ps continuous mode The setup is in
>the manual I think on page 54.
>
>2. I have the 55-200mm Nikon Vr lens. This would give you a
>nice combination and can be picked up reasonably. around 150
>or so on ebay.
>
>3.I would get a good cirular Polarizer. Bought a Hoya myself.
>It is good for when you are out in the bright sun, Like
>sunglass's for your camera. Bought Bryan Petersons
>"Understanding Exposure" which is an excellent book
>and just ordered David Busch's Digital Field Guide for the
>Nikon D60. Make sure you have a lens pen for cleaning the lens
>and a rocket blower in case dust gets on the mirror. There are
>other things you can get but these will get you started.
>
>Enjoy your camera and just keep shooting!! The more you take,
>the better you get. Start out in the automatic mode and branch
>out into the Aperture,Shutter Priority and Manual modes as you
>learn. Film is cheap. lol. Jerry

  

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Kobe Registered since 01st Jul 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 02:23 AM
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#4. "RE: D60 question"
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US
          

Just so you wouldn't have to change lenses so often, you might look into the Nikkor 18-200 VR or Sigma 18-200 OS HSM (which is cheaper) instead of the 55-200 VR.

See the link detailing which lenses will autofocus on the D40, D40X and D60.

  

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FastNOC Registered since 24th Sep 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 02:41 AM
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#5. "RE: D60 question"
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Thu 25-Sep-08 02:43 AM by FastNOC

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Thanks for the response. I did take a look and that lens seemed pretty expensive. The one you mention seems to be a lot cheaper. But I definitely want one that can auto focus with eh D60.

I was amazed at how good the pictures that come out of this look though. From a newbie I couldn't be much happier.

Here's one of the foster mom-cat I'm caring for:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2886138098_bcfc33e0d3_b.jpg

And in full size it looks great.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/2886138098_dc4d2efe69_o.jpg

I know I'm going to be immersing myself in this stuff. I've probably taken 100 pictures of the kittens and mom. If you saw my blog with all the pictures of them on it you'd see why I wanted a nice quality camera for pics.

Some things shocked me. Like this. It allowed me to focus on the kitten and not the mom. it's a bad picture but I was surprised how much detail I could see in the kitten's mouth. Amazing
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2885319727_2056f7a0c7_b.jpg
Full size
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2885319727_df696d594f_o.jpg

Anyway. I'm like a sponge right now trying to read everything I can about aperture, shutter speeds and 10 billion other things I don't know how to do.

  

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JDMils Registered since 23rd Jul 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 03:01 AM
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#6. "RE: D60 question"
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AU
          

Cats do not come out too good in shots at night when using the flash- their eyes light up like XMAS lights. Look at purchasing a good flash defuser which will fit your existing flash pop-up (gary fong diffuser).

For night shots, look into an F1.8 or quicker lens.


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+-- JDMils
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+-- D60
+-- AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR
+-- AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G
+-- HOYA 52mm Clear PRO1 DIGITAL Protector Filter DMC LPF (on the 18-55)
+-- HOYA 58mm Clear SKYLIGHT Protector Filter (on the 50)
|
+-- Navman forums at http://forums@jdmils.com
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mtpenmaker Registered since 23rd Aug 2007Thu 25-Sep-08 03:20 AM
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#7. "RE: D60 question"
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Thu 25-Sep-08 04:54 AM by mtpenmaker

Billings, US
          

This is a list of all the lenses that will autofocus with the D60, http://tinyurl.com/65o7dv . The Sigma 18-200 DC OS is on the list.

Get a copy of Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson and read it twice.
Read the D60 owner's manual twice.
Get a Magic Lantern Guide to the D60 and read it twice.
After that, you will have a pretty good understanding of the camera and exposure. Don't even worry about another lens yet, just learn the camera with the lens you have.

A diffuser will not completely remedy the problem of "red-eye" with cats. The only thing that will completely solve the problem is a speedlight, either the SB-600 or SB-800. The SB-400 isn't really adequate. But, if or when you bet a speedlight, be sure to get a diffuser because they really help when taking photos of people.

Gerry Rhoades
Montana Pens
www.montanapens.com
D200, F4, FM2n, N90s and not enough glass

  

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FastNOC Registered since 24th Sep 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 10:24 AM
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#9. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 7


US
          

This is some great advice and just like the title of the books listed above exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. I'm not hoping to become some pro later, i just want to be very good at taking photos.

I also like the "read it twice" advice. I've been going through the manual in pdf format but haven't even gotten close to the whole thing.

>This is a list of all the lenses that will autofocus with the
>D60, http://tinyurl.com/65o7dv . The Sigma 18-200 DC OS is on
>the list.
>
>Get a copy of Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson and
>read it twice.
>Read the D60 owner's manual twice.
>Get a Magic Lantern Guide to the D60 and read it twice.
>After that, you will have a pretty good understanding of the
>camera and exposure. Don't even worry about another lens yet,
>just learn the camera with the lens you have.
>
>A diffuser will not completely remedy the problem of
>"red-eye" with cats. The only thing that will
>completely solve the problem is a speedlight, either the
>SB-600 or SB-800. The SB-400 isn't really adequate. But, if
>or when you bet a speedlight, be sure to get a diffuser
>because they really help when taking photos of people.
>
>Gerry Rhoades
>Montana Pens
>www.montanapens.com
>D200, F4, FM2n, N90s and not enough glass

Yeah after thinking about it and reading posts like yours I think i'd be doing myself a disservice if I buy something right now. I've got the money but I'm not going to throw it away and it seems like it'll be smarter to just start taking pics of things and seeing what I find myself wishing I had while I do it.

Question. I've got a tripod I paid like 50 bucks for to use with my camcorder. I see some tripods are over 150.00. But I can't see any reason to go up in price like that. mine's got two levels and a dial and I'm trying to figure out the differences. Am I missing something?

>If you are on a budget and looking for a good long zoom, look
>at the 55-200VR lens. It takes excellent pictures for the
>price. Then once you get more experience you can decide on
>what lenses you really want. You can pick up a used 55-200 for
>less than $200, sometimes way less. There is not a "one
>lens does it all" lens. I find that a short zoom such as
>the 18-55VR coupled with the 55-200VR does a much better job
>than a one focal length "do it all" zoom. But that's
>just my option.
>
>You will find that you'll eventually be taking more of one
>type of shot than another. Most of us have a particular sub
>specialty of photography that we really like to take pictures
>of. I like wild life and flowers, so my bias is towards long
>telephotos and macro lenses. You just need time to find your
>specialty. Then you can make intelligent decisions about what
>lenses you really need for you type of photography. At that
>point buy the best quality lenses that you can afford, they
>will last you many many years.


Also, for those that mentioned the cat pics having trouble with the eye stuff. I noticed I had that problem with my camcorder but I'm not seeing it with this camera. Here's an example. Is that white dot what you're referring to? With the cam corder you could see the entire reflection of the retina and they looked bad and required clean up. But so far I don't see that with the D60. Are you saying it's going to be worse and I've just been lucky? I'm guessing that's it.

Example:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2886556881_2fd324f78d_o.jpg

  

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gunfighter48 Registered since 01st Aug 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 04:35 AM
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#8. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 0


Seattle, US
          

If you are on a budget and looking for a good long zoom, look at the 55-200VR lens. It takes excellent pictures for the price. Then once you get more experience you can decide on what lenses you really want. You can pick up a used 55-200 for less than $200, sometimes way less. There is not a "one lens does it all" lens. I find that a short zoom such as the 18-55VR coupled with the 55-200VR does a much better job than a one focal length "do it all" zoom. But that's just my option.

You will find that you'll eventually be taking more of one type of shot than another. Most of us have a particular sub specialty of photography that we really like to take pictures of. I like wild life and flowers, so my bias is towards long telephotos and macro lenses. You just need time to find your specialty. Then you can make intelligent decisions about what lenses you really need for you type of photography. At that point buy the best quality lenses that you can afford, they will last you many many years.

gunfighter48
A steady hand works good for cameras and guns.

  

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FastNOC Registered since 24th Sep 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 10:30 AM
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#10. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 8


US
          

This is some great advice and just like the title of the books listed above exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. I'm not hoping to become some pro later, i just want to be very good at taking photos.

I also like the "read it twice" advice. I've been going through the manual in pdf format but haven't even gotten close to the whole thing.

>This is a list of all the lenses that will autofocus with the
>D60, http://tinyurl.com/65o7dv . The Sigma 18-200 DC OS is on
>the list.
>
>Get a copy of Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson and
>read it twice.
>Read the D60 owner's manual twice.
>Get a Magic Lantern Guide to the D60 and read it twice.
>After that, you will have a pretty good understanding of the
>camera and exposure. Don't even worry about another lens yet,
>just learn the camera with the lens you have.
>
>A diffuser will not completely remedy the problem of
>"red-eye" with cats. The only thing that will
>completely solve the problem is a speedlight, either the
>SB-600 or SB-800. The SB-400 isn't really adequate. But, if
>or when you bet a speedlight, be sure to get a diffuser
>because they really help when taking photos of people.
>
>Gerry Rhoades
>Montana Pens
>www.montanapens.com
>D200, F4, FM2n, N90s and not enough glass

Yeah after thinking about it and reading posts like yours I think i'd be doing myself a disservice if I buy something right now. I've got the money but I'm not going to throw it away and it seems like it'll be smarter to just start taking pics of things and seeing what I find myself wishing I had while I do it.

Question. I've got a tripod I paid like 50 bucks for to use with my camcorder. I see some tripods are over 150.00. But I can't see any reason to go up in price like that. mine's got two levels and a dial and I'm trying to figure out the differences. Am I missing something?

>If you are on a budget and looking for a good long zoom, look
>at the 55-200VR lens. It takes excellent pictures for the
>price. Then once you get more experience you can decide on
>what lenses you really want. You can pick up a used 55-200 for
>less than $200, sometimes way less. There is not a "one
>lens does it all" lens. I find that a short zoom such as
>the 18-55VR coupled with the 55-200VR does a much better job
>than a one focal length "do it all" zoom. But that's
>just my option.
>
>You will find that you'll eventually be taking more of one
>type of shot than another. Most of us have a particular sub
>specialty of photography that we really like to take pictures
>of. I like wild life and flowers, so my bias is towards long
>telephotos and macro lenses. You just need time to find your
>specialty. Then you can make intelligent decisions about what
>lenses you really need for you type of photography. At that
>point buy the best quality lenses that you can afford, they
>will last you many many years.


Also, for those that mentioned the cat pics having trouble with the eye stuff. I noticed I had that problem with my camcorder but I'm not seeing it with this camera. Here's an example. Is that white dot what you're referring to? With the cam corder you could see the entire reflection of the retina and they looked bad and required clean up. But so far I don't see that with the D60. Are you saying it's going to be worse and I've just been lucky? I'm guessing that's it.

Example:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2886556881_2fd324f78d_o.jpg

EDIT: Wups I posted the same message twice. I meant only once to answer both people. Sorry about that.

  

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Juggernaut Registered since 25th Jul 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 01:22 PM
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#11. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 10


Triad, US
          

>Also, for those that mentioned the cat pics having trouble
>with the eye stuff. I noticed I had that problem with my
>camcorder but I'm not seeing it with this camera. Here's an
>example. Is that white dot what you're referring to? With the
>cam corder you could see the entire reflection of the retina
>and they looked bad and required clean up. But so far I don't
>see that with the D60. Are you saying it's going to be worse
>and I've just been lucky? I'm guessing that's it.
>
>Example:
>http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2886556881_2fd324f78d_o.jpg


The white dot is Catch Light from the flash and is normal.

.........................................................................................................................................................................
Daniel
Triad, North Carolina
My SmugMug Galleries

  

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mtpenmaker Registered since 23rd Aug 2007Thu 25-Sep-08 03:10 PM
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#12. "RE: D60 question"
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Billings, US
          

It doesn't look to me like this photo was taken with the built-in flash. Photos of cats, dogs, whatever, will be fine if not taken with a flash. The "red-eye" only happens when flash is used.

If that photo was taken with the built-in flash, a lot of people would like to know how you did it, including me.

Gerry Rhoades
Montana Pens
www.montanapens.com
D200, F4, FM2n, N90s and not enough glass

  

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FastNOC Registered since 24th Sep 2008Thu 25-Sep-08 07:10 PM
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#13. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 12
Thu 25-Sep-08 07:13 PM by FastNOC

US
          

Yup, no special settings. I took it in a room with relatively low light so his pupils would be a little dialated.

I just looked and I've got numerous close ups like that with the same result. In fact, I have no experienced red eye or anything like I expected with any pics I've taken so far.

Lucky I guess?

Here's my other cat. same deal
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3023/2887524615_cd25e2eca1_o.jpg


>It doesn't look to me like this photo was taken with the
>built-in flash. Photos of cats, dogs, whatever, will be fine
>if not taken with a flash. The "red-eye" only
>happens when flash is used.
>
>If that photo was taken with the built-in flash, a lot of
>people would like to know how you did it, including me.
>
>Gerry Rhoades
>Montana Pens
>www.montanapens.com
>D200, F4, FM2n, N90s and not enough glass

  

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#14. "RE: D60 question"
In response to Reply # 0


Richmond, US
          

> should I be buying a bunch of accessories or play it by ear?

In general, don't buy anything yet. All of those thingies are designed to solve some sort of photographic problem. If you don't have that problem (and recognize it as such), they'll just be more money invested and more stuff to lug around. Buy stuff only when you know you're going to (or have) needed it. There is an infinite supply of this stuff available (infinite in the sense that there's more of it out there than any of us have money for)!

> I've got a tripod I paid like 50 bucks for to use with my camcorder. I see some tripods are over 150.00. But I can't see any reason to go up in price like that. mine's got two levels and a dial and I'm trying to figure out the differences. Am I missing something?

Probably. Most of the good tripods are at least $150, and believe it or not, they go out to $1000 or so, and that's without the gold plating! Seriously, tripods and their related cousins the tripod heads are highly engineered things, and they do make a real difference. Of course, the $1000 monsters like the Gitzo 1548 or whatever they call it now is designed to handle the giant, 13-lb lenses with 4 lb cameras supported on a swiveling 4 lb gimbal head, and you probably don't need to do that. Depending on the type of photography that you do, something less elaborate - and expensive - probably will suit your needs. But even you may not really know what your needs are yet.

So... the best recommendation remaining is to go out and take pictures. Get experience. Think about your output. Ask questions when something goes wrong - more than likely, many of us have gone through the same process. Most of all, have fun.

_____
Brian... a bicoastal Nikonian and Team Member

My gallery is online. Comments and critique welcomed any time!

  

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#15. "RE: D60 question"
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Thu 25-Sep-08 07:42 PM by Juggernaut

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As for the tripod...I found a used tripod and head(see my profile) on Craigslist for $50...there was nothing wrong with it, the seller was just upgrading to one of those $1000 non gold plated models


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thepokersupplier Registered since 18th Sep 2008Fri 26-Sep-08 06:28 AM
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#16. "RE: D60 question"
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I too recently purchased the D60 (in May.) I am wondering if this is the best place for a newbie thread for DSLR / D60. If so I read all of the posts and I had many of the same questions. Now that I have had some time with my camera I realize what I need. I have the 18-55 VR and the 55-200 VR, both are great lenses. I would really like to be able to take extreme close-up shots so I believe a macro lens is what I am looking for. What are some recommendations for a decent macro lens. I would like to spend less than $1000.00 for a lens but I am not sure if that is possible. I tried using my friend's 200-400 lens and I don't really think I will have much need for that type of lens unless I want to take paparazzi pictures or unless I go on some type of safari. He uses it to take pictures at his son's soccer games. So far the two lens I already mentioned have worked really well for me. I mostly like taking landscape / scenery shots and also wildlife shots if I can get them. Is there a particular lens that is best for taking portraits or is the 18-55 sufficient for that? I also would like a faster shooting lens so I can capture movement better. Other than that maybe a good lens for shooting in low-light conditions such as in museums. I was also wondering what kind of difference an external flash makes and what the diffuser is that everyone is mentioning. One other thing is the polarizing filter. do they make one to fit the lenses I have and if so are they expensive? I think I could use this because I get orange spots when shooting into the sun sometimes. Where is the best place to post pictures to discuss different aspects about what is good and what is not so good with them?

  

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OrlandoRealtor Registered since 28th May 2008Fri 26-Sep-08 10:32 AM
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#17. "RE: D60 question"
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Fri 26-Sep-08 10:33 AM by OrlandoRealtor

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You can post pictures here but the Dpreview.com D40-D90 forum seems to be mainly a picture posting forum where you get answers on what is wrong with them and how to improve them.Make sure you say you are a beginner when you first post. Pictures are posted daily and answers come quickly on them.

>I too recently purchased the D60 (in May.) I am wondering if
>this is the best place for a newbie thread for DSLR / D60. If
>so I read all of the posts and I had many of the same
>questions. Now that I have had some time with my camera I
>realize what I need. I have the 18-55 VR and the 55-200 VR,
>both are great lenses. I would really like to be able to take
>extreme close-up shots so I believe a macro lens is what I am
>looking for. What are some recommendations for a decent macro
>lens. I would like to spend less than $1000.00 for a lens but
>I am not sure if that is possible. I tried using my friend's
>200-400 lens and I don't really think I will have much need
>for that type of lens unless I want to take paparazzi pictures
>or unless I go on some type of safari. He uses it to take
>pictures at his son's soccer games. So far the two lens I
>already mentioned have worked really well for me. I mostly
>like taking landscape / scenery shots and also wildlife shots
>if I can get them. Is there a particular lens that is best
>for taking portraits or is the 18-55 sufficient for that? I
>also would like a faster shooting lens so I can capture
>movement better. Other than that maybe a good lens for
>shooting in low-light conditions such as in museums. I was
>also wondering what kind of difference an external flash makes
>and what the diffuser is that everyone is mentioning. One
>other thing is the polarizing filter. do they make one to fit
>the lenses I have and if so are they expensive? I think I
>could use this because I get orange spots when shooting into
>the sun sometimes. Where is the best place to post pictures
>to discuss different aspects about what is good and what is
>not so good with them?

  

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thepokersupplier Registered since 18th Sep 2008Sat 27-Sep-08 02:47 AM
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#21. "RE: D60 question"
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Thanks for the information, I will check out that site.

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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Fri 26-Sep-08 01:39 PM
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#18. "RE: D60 question"
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> What are some recommendations for a decent macro lens.

A common question - do a search on the Nikkor or 3rd Party lens forums, there are LOTS of responses to it. There is no reason to be spending $1000 on a macro lens unless you have very specific requirements. Most of the work-a-day macro lenses sell for $400-$700, and there are many used ones that deliver stunning results that go for $100-$275.

> Is there a particular lens that is best for taking portraits or is the 18-55 sufficient for that?

The 18-55 should do a decent job of that, although there are many that will do a better job. Generally speaking you want something around 50-90mm focal length, depending on your tastes, with a max aperture of around f/2.8 to f/4. (Your lens is f/5.6 at the long end.) Or you could try the short end of your 55-200, which is probably a somewhat better fit for this work. Definitely try what you have before investing more money.

> a good lens for shooting in low-light conditions such as in museums

You've already got two of the best for that. The other alternative is the 18-200VR, but it is merely more convenient and not better at that task.

> what kind of difference an external flash makes

It might make a huge difference, depending on how you use it.

> diffuser

There's more than one way to skin a cat. I don't use a diffuser very often, choosing instead to use bounce flash. But people's tastes are different. I don't like ANY flash shadow, and bounce lets me avoid that in most indoor situations. A diffuser merely reduces the direct flash shadow.

> polarizing filter ... because I get orange spots when shooting into the sun

The polarizer does something quite different. It can darken skies, and it can remove glare and reflections off non-metallic surfaces like leaves and water. What you are seeing is what's called "flare," and the polarizer has no effect on that. Assuming that you don't have a filter on your lens already, that flare is inherent to the lens itself, and the only ways to get rid of it are fairly extreme:

- don't shoot into the sun
- get a different lens that's more resistant to flare
- remove the flare in postprocessing

Note that many protective filters, especially the inexpensive sort, contribute a lot of flare of their own.

> Where is the best place to post pictures to discuss different aspects about what is good and what is not so good with them?

Try the Critique and Constructive Criticism forum here at Nikonians.

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ruca2k8 Registered since 27th Feb 2008Fri 26-Sep-08 06:55 PM
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#19. "RE: D60 question"
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Fri 26-Sep-08 10:24 PM by ruca2k8

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>...try the short
>end of your 55-200, which is probably a somewhat better fit
>for this work. Definitely try what you have before investing
>more money.

Exactly what I was thinking. Longer focal lengths will avoid distortion as well as allowing you to get further "out of (the subject's) face" and so be less intimidating. The person will usually think you're shooting a full-body/half-body shot and be less concerned about facial features, relaxing more.

>> a good lens for shooting in low-light conditions such as
>in museums
>
>You've already got two of the best for that. The other
>alternative is the 18-200VR, but it is merely more convenient
>and not better at that task.

Here I have to disagree. Low light situations are probably those where kit lenses fall flat on their lens hoods more often. I would advise you to try a museum in manual mode (so you "feel" the effect of dim light) once you understand about exposure, and after you're frustrated, check your settings. You will then be able to see what a fast lens (f1.4, f1.8, f2 or f2.8 - at least) can do.

Rui

  

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#20. "RE: D60 question"
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Sat 27-Sep-08 05:29 PM by blw

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Well, I'm pretty confident about my answer here. I spend a lot of time in museums, and I've had plenty of experience taking 35/f1.4, 50/f1.4, 135/f2 etc to the museum and finding that the 18-200VR was a better situation. The reason that the 18-200VR or 18-55VR are the best solutions for the museum is the combination of VR and normal focal lengths. (Come to think of it, the 18-105VR would also be a good solution, for the same reason.)

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ruca2k8 Registered since 27th Feb 2008Sat 27-Sep-08 10:49 AM
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#23. "RE: D60 question"
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Cascais, PT
          

Good to know.

True I didn't read into the VR part, and have no experience with one, so perhaps I'm (too) skeptical.

Rui

  

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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Sat 27-Sep-08 05:24 PM
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#24. "RE: D60 question"
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Sat 27-Sep-08 05:28 PM by blw

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Without VR, you're right: the kit lenses would be a flop. But WITH VR, they allow more flexibility and probably lower shutter speeds than a typical fast glass. Consider the 18-55/f3.5-5.6 VR vs, say, the 35/f1.4. The fast glass is f/1.4 -> f/2 -> f/2.8 or two and a half or three stops faster, but VR gets you three+ stops back, assuming that your subject isn't moving (and in a museum, that's almost always the case). But the difference is that you get the option of more DOF - the 35/f1.4 at a foot and a half distance has a few millimeters of DOF, probably not what you want.

And that assumes that you have f/1.4 glass. Most "fast" glass is f/2.8, for example my 35-70/f2.8, and that is really not a contest in a museum.

Another consideration is that in a museum, you often have extremely limited ways to shoot, and the flexibility of a zoom often makes a shot.

Thinking about this a bit more, I think the 18-200VR is slightly better than the 18-55VR, specifically for the reason that the aperture on the longer lens is somewhat wider than on the short lens. I think the 18-200 is about f/4.5 at 55mm, whereas we know it's f/5.6 on the short lens.

Of course, if I could have a 35/f1.4 AFS VR, I'd obviously take that instead of anything else we have today. (Imagine what you could do with f/1.4, VR and a D3 at ISO 25600!) But if wishes were fishes...

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#22. "RE: D60 question"
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Thank you very much, that was a lot of very helpful information.

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