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face555 Registered since 13th Mar 2007Thu 15-Mar-07 03:50 PM
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"Wide Angle Lens"



          

Hi, why is the AF-S DX 12-24mm 4.0G ED-IF priced much higer than the lens that comes with the D40 (18-55 DX). Is it better in quality or specs or is it just because its wide angle?


  

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tronic
15th Mar 2007
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16th Mar 2007
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22nd Mar 2007
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tronic Registered since 02nd May 2006Thu 15-Mar-07 04:14 PM
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#1. "RE: Wide Angle Lens"
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Generally because the 12-24 is a super wide angle lens and also because of its better bokeh than the 18-55.

Both are fine lenses; they are just optimized for somewhat different shooting situations.

Also, the 12-24 is f/4.0 (at all focal lengths) which makes it better than the 18-55 at the longer end (f/5.6) at capturing light. This may matter in certain situations. The difference between f/4.0 and f/5.6 is one full f-stop which means the 12-24 can take in twice the light -- or looked at from a different perspective, work in half the light the 18-55 needs for an equivalent photo.

EDIT: added another comment.

  

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greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Thu 15-Mar-07 07:02 PM
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The 18-55 lens is also much more a mass-produced lens. Body and mount are plastic, not that there's anything wrong with that. Nikon will make & sell close to one of these lenses for every D40/D40x/D50 produced. How many 12-24s will they sell? I'd guess at significantly less than 10% of Nikon owners buying a new one. Factor in the tooling costs for what is a pretty complicated assembly, and there's your answer.

Why is the Nikkor 12-24 so much more expensive than the Tokina 12-24? Mostly, because it's a Nikkor.

  

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sewwhatsports Registered since 03rd May 2007Fri 16-Mar-07 01:54 AM
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"Why is the Nikkor 12-24 so much more expensive than the Tokina 12-24? Mostly, because it's a Nikkor."

So what is the difference in price between the 2 lenses? And is there a perceptible difference in the glass that would justify the increased cost with the Nikkor name?

I am really interested in this lens to as one of the 2 I want to get to complete my kit. (The other is at least a 300mm or 400mm zoom of some sort, preferably with VR.) But with the costs of the glass I want I am going to have to save for a while to satisfy this NAS.

Rena in Delaware
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greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Fri 16-Mar-07 08:19 AM
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Yorkshire, GB
          

Check out the Nikonians review of superwide zooms here. You can also find many threads on the Sigma 10-20 & Tokina 12-24 in the 3rd Paty Lenses forum.

NAS cannot be satisfied!

Chris

  

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face555 Registered since 13th Mar 2007Thu 22-Mar-07 08:59 PM
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Thank you tronic what does bokeh mean? Also if I purchse the wide angle would it make my 18-55 useless? What do you think of the 50 MM f/1.8d I know the auto focus won't work on the d40 and would have to use it manually...but everyone is saying its a must have.

  

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dclarhorn Moderator In depth knowledge and high level skills in a variety of areas including landscape Nikonian since 31st Mar 2002Thu 22-Mar-07 09:31 PM
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>Also if I purchse the wide angle would it make my 18-55 useless?

No, it will still work.

Seriously, only you will know if the focal range is still useful to you.

For the 50 f1.8, "must have" is a relative term. If you shoot in low light, the fast aperture will come in handy and may help you get a shot at a particular shutterspeed that would be impossible with a slower lens. "Must have?" Well, if you're getting paid and have to get a shot in those conditions, I'd say it's a must have. If you're not getting paid, it's an "I want."

Dan L.
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hwdx347 Silver Member Charter MemberFri 16-Mar-07 04:53 PM
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#5. "RE: Wide Angle Lens"
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Maumelle, US
          

It's more expensive for all the reasons you mention. Have you considered a Tokina 12-24 for less than $500?

Hedley
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face555 Registered since 13th Mar 2007Thu 22-Mar-07 09:04 PM
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No is it as good? I never tried anything other than Nikor...

  

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greenwing Gold Member Nikonian since 18th May 2006Fri 23-Mar-07 07:44 AM
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Yorkshire, GB
          

See my reply no. 4 above.

  

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edmun Registered since 16th Sep 2003Sun 25-Mar-07 10:21 AM
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#10. "RE: Wide Angle Lens"
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eugene, US
          

There is a tradition in the camera world -- regardless of brand.

The kit lens is to get you hooked on the system.

Then all other lens are more. (with some exceptions)

ledmun

  

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