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untamedheart Registered since 09th Jan 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 02:23 PM
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"D50 surprise"


Austin, PK
          

I primarily use D80 but got a D50 as a backup and shot a session yesterday with a manual 75-150mm Series E lens. I must say I am very pleasantly surprised at the quality of pics. Only on camera flash in manual mode was used...The first 10 shots are with D50

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Irfan

http://devoted.to/fineart
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F5, D80, F100, D70s

Nikon 85mm F1.4 AF-D, Nikon 16mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 80-200 f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 35-70mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 105mm F2.8 Micro AF, Nikon 60mm F2.8 Micro AF-D, Nikon 100mm F2.8 E, Nikon 50mm F1.8 AF, Nikon 70-210mm AF

http://devoted.to/fineart
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Current line up
D300,D80,F100
85mm f1.4 AFD, 50mm f1.4 AFD, 28-70mm F2.8 AFS, 17-35mm F2.8 AFS, 80-200mm F2.8 AFS, 35mm F1.4 AI, 28mm f2 AIS, 105mm F2.8 AF Micro, 105mm F2.8 VR, 105mm F2.5 AIS x 2, 105mm F1.8 AIS, 60mm F2.8AF Micro, 50mm F1.8 AF, 50mm F1.8 AI, 16mm F2.8 AFD Fisheye, 75-150mm F3.5 E x 3, 35-70mm F2.8AFD, 180mm F2.8 AIS ED, 12-24 F4 Dx, 28-80mm F3.5-5.6, Sigma 100-300mm F4-5.6, Tamron 90mm f2.8, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

  

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puddleduck
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puddleduck Registered since 30th Oct 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 02:33 PM
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#1. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Cambridge, GB
          

I'm not.

I've got a D200 but regularly use the D50. Its image quality is fantastic. Its my "go to" camera for high ISO (anything over ISO400)

I think it'll be replaced by the (inferior) D40 soon - a real shame

-Andy

Gear: Nikon D700, Nikkor 14-24 f/2.8,Nikkor 17-35 f/2.8, Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8, Sigma 50mm f/1.4 HSM
My Photos: photos.odysseus-software.co.uk

  

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untamedheart Registered since 09th Jan 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 03:00 PM
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#3. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Austin, PK
          

Maybe not after prolonged use of D50 but am sure u wud have been too when you first compared it to your D200!

Irfan

http://devoted.to/fineart
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F5, D80, F100, D70s

Nikon 85mm F1.4 AF-D, Nikon 16mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 80-200 f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 35-70mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 105mm F2.8 Micro AF, Nikon 60mm F2.8 Micro AF-D, Nikon 100mm F2.8 E, Nikon 50mm F1.8 AF, Nikon 70-210mm AF

http://devoted.to/fineart
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Current line up
D300,D80,F100
85mm f1.4 AFD, 50mm f1.4 AFD, 28-70mm F2.8 AFS, 17-35mm F2.8 AFS, 80-200mm F2.8 AFS, 35mm F1.4 AI, 28mm f2 AIS, 105mm F2.8 AF Micro, 105mm F2.8 VR, 105mm F2.5 AIS x 2, 105mm F1.8 AIS, 60mm F2.8AF Micro, 50mm F1.8 AF, 50mm F1.8 AI, 16mm F2.8 AFD Fisheye, 75-150mm F3.5 E x 3, 35-70mm F2.8AFD, 180mm F2.8 AIS ED, 12-24 F4 Dx, 28-80mm F3.5-5.6, Sigma 100-300mm F4-5.6, Tamron 90mm f2.8, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

  

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phillyguy Registered since 03rd Nov 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 02:51 PM
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#2. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Philadelphia, US
          

Very nice shots. The D50 is a very capable camera and can produce wonderful results.

Jason
Philadelphia Nikonian

  

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Fri 10-Nov-06 03:17 PM
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#4. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

Yup... I actually was a little bummed when I upgraded my D50 to a D80. Pixel for pixel I think the D50 takes better looking pictures. I ended up getting another D50. I am almost considering getting a few of them and put them away in a closet. (c;

It is unfortunate that Nikon seems to have entered a pixel race with Canon. I personally would have preferred a camera with the D50's sensor and some of the D80's features (bigger LCD, better interface, bigger brighter view finder, etc.).

I am guessing the D40 will soon be the only 6 Mp camera in the lineup, which would be a shame.

I am sure that the higher rez sensors will get better with time, and this will filter down to consumer cams (just like it did with 6 Mp models), but I was dissapointed in the sensor performance and quality in both the D80 and D200.

Scott Simon

Solutions Etcetera
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untamedheart Registered since 09th Jan 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 03:22 PM
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#5. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Austin, PK
          

I wouldnt really agree with that...

Heres couple of D80 shots

http://static.flickr.com/86/275892727_8b0bd2d3e9_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/81/269602953_ca12a811ac_o.jpg

What more do you want guys ...
I still think D50 is great value but D80 is so much more fun and easy to use and pic quality is no less than D50 for sure. maybe better overall but ISO 400 looks better on D50


http://devoted.to/fineart
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F5, D80, F100, D70s

Nikon 85mm F1.4 AF-D, Nikon 16mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 80-200 f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 35-70mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 105mm F2.8 Micro AF, Nikon 60mm F2.8 Micro AF-D, Nikon 100mm F2.8 E, Nikon 50mm F1.8 AF, Nikon 70-210mm AF

http://devoted.to/fineart
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Current line up
D300,D80,F100
85mm f1.4 AFD, 50mm f1.4 AFD, 28-70mm F2.8 AFS, 17-35mm F2.8 AFS, 80-200mm F2.8 AFS, 35mm F1.4 AI, 28mm f2 AIS, 105mm F2.8 AF Micro, 105mm F2.8 VR, 105mm F2.5 AIS x 2, 105mm F1.8 AIS, 60mm F2.8AF Micro, 50mm F1.8 AF, 50mm F1.8 AI, 16mm F2.8 AFD Fisheye, 75-150mm F3.5 E x 3, 35-70mm F2.8AFD, 180mm F2.8 AIS ED, 12-24 F4 Dx, 28-80mm F3.5-5.6, Sigma 100-300mm F4-5.6, Tamron 90mm f2.8, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

  

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Fri 10-Nov-06 03:38 PM
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#6. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

How could you possibly tell anything in those shots?

Look here:
http://www.solutionsetcetera.com/photo/

Here are two shots of the sky... shot raw and rendered in ACR 3.6, 100% crop and saved to uncompressed tiff and psd files. Note the noise/patterning in what shoud be a clear blue sky. I saw this in all three of my D80s whenever you have large areas of smooth saturated color (or light gradients).

It is not an issue in either of my 2 D50s.

Also look at these from another user:
http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/image/69828596 (D50)
http://www.pbase.com/cswatzell/image/69797091 (D80)

Both were at ISO 1600. Note the quieter blacker sky.

I like the D80s expanded feature set but the D50 takes better pictures... at least to my eye.

-ss

Scott Simon

Solutions Etcetera
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puddleduck Registered since 30th Oct 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 03:42 PM
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#7. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Cambridge, GB
          

I like the D80s expanded feature set but the D50 takes better pictures... at least to my eye.

Agreed. I picked up a D80 briefly hoping it might be a solution to the D200 high noise issues.

It wasn't - the D50 to my eyes takes better pictures than the D80, at least when the ISO goes up.

I probably would choose to use a D80 or D200 for ISO100 landscapes for example though, as opposed to the D50 at ISO200.

-Andy

Gear: Nikon D700, Nikkor 14-24 f/2.8,Nikkor 17-35 f/2.8, Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8, Sigma 50mm f/1.4 HSM
My Photos: photos.odysseus-software.co.uk

  

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simpo two Registered since 17th Aug 2004Tue 14-Nov-06 10:48 AM
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#15. "RE: D50 surprise"
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GB
          

>Agreed. I picked up a D80 briefly hoping it might be a
>solution to the D200 high noise issues.

High noise with a D200? You should try a D70 - the neighbours were complaining it was keeping their kids awake...!

>It wasn't - the D50 to my eyes takes better pictures than
>the D80, at least when the ISO goes up.

The D50 has the advantage of fewer pixels and good software. If you keep the same software but add more pixels, the noise goes up.

I too am disappointed by the pixel race. I don't really need the 10Mp of my D200 (or 5fps) but upgraded from the D70 for better focus performance. The bigger viewfinder and monitor are great too though!

John
www.blokewithacamera.co.uk

John
www.blokewithacamera.co.uk

  

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untamedheart Registered since 09th Jan 2005Fri 10-Nov-06 03:42 PM
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#8. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Austin, PK
          

I havent done this kind of testing but for me right out of camera the D80 shots look fine...just like D50 shot as well.

D50 has better noise performance for sure despite all the rave reviews of D80 performance in that arena.

but I have to do less post processing on my D80 images...the Auto WB is better than D50 but this is my personal opinion after limited exposure to both cameras.

am not an expert but both are for sure better than d70 jpgs



Irfan

http://devoted.to/fineart
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F5, D80, F100, D70s

Nikon 85mm F1.4 AF-D, Nikon 16mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 80-200 f2.8 AF-S, Nikon 35-70mm F2.8 AF-D, Nikon 105mm F2.8 Micro AF, Nikon 60mm F2.8 Micro AF-D, Nikon 100mm F2.8 E, Nikon 50mm F1.8 AF, Nikon 70-210mm AF

http://devoted.to/fineart
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Current line up
D300,D80,F100
85mm f1.4 AFD, 50mm f1.4 AFD, 28-70mm F2.8 AFS, 17-35mm F2.8 AFS, 80-200mm F2.8 AFS, 35mm F1.4 AI, 28mm f2 AIS, 105mm F2.8 AF Micro, 105mm F2.8 VR, 105mm F2.5 AIS x 2, 105mm F1.8 AIS, 60mm F2.8AF Micro, 50mm F1.8 AF, 50mm F1.8 AI, 16mm F2.8 AFD Fisheye, 75-150mm F3.5 E x 3, 35-70mm F2.8AFD, 180mm F2.8 AIS ED, 12-24 F4 Dx, 28-80mm F3.5-5.6, Sigma 100-300mm F4-5.6, Tamron 90mm f2.8, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8

  

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Fri 10-Nov-06 03:53 PM
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#9. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

They are both good cameras, but there are some drawbacks to all the extra pixels (especially if you don't need them).

My point is I would like to see an updated/expanded D50, and not a downgraded D80 as a replacement for the D50. But the pixel race will most likely kill that. I bought the D80 for the brighter finder, mirror delay mode, flash commander mode, and the better interface... not the extra pixels.

I also have to say that I like to shoot in raw and I don't need 10 Mp files most of the time (they just take up more space and slow down the editing environment).

Anybody here know how the older "pro" 6 Mp models compare to the D50? Are the pictures as clean? Perhaps a used one might be good upgrade to the D50 if you don't need/want all the extra pixels.

Scott Simon

Solutions Etcetera
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jkinman Registered since 23rd Mar 2006Fri 10-Nov-06 07:31 PM
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#10. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Camby, US
          

Nice photos untamedheart, I too love my D50. The quality of the camera far exceeds my skill as a photographer.

  

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lambert13 Registered since 19th Apr 2006Fri 10-Nov-06 08:03 PM
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#11. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Schenectady, US
          

I have also been relatively pleased with images from the D50. But, I am selling my D50 to buy a D80 as soon as I get the extra money for the switch. Primary reason............the tilted horizon issue with the D50.

I know, I know. Its easily fixable in photoshop. All you have to do is shoot every photo with a tripod and spirit level. All you have to do is use the miniscule markings in the viewfinder to alilgn your shot instead of the viewfinder frame (like every other camera I have used).

But, to me a $500 camera body should not have that problem. Yes I could rotate each picture to straighten it, but I find it too much of a pain in the ##### to do all the time. I rarely use a tripod, so that option is out. And with the viewfinder being relatively small I find it difficult to use the focus point markings to try to line up a shot.

LIke I said before, I like many things about the D50, but not enough to keep it.

Nikon D50
18-55 Kit Lens
50mm 1.8 AF
75-240 AF

  

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bent1 Registered since 10th Sep 2006Sat 11-Nov-06 02:29 AM
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#12. "RE: D50 surprise"
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US
          

lambert13,
What are you referring to when you said, “The tilted horizon issue with the D50".

  

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Aleks Registered since 29th Oct 2005Sat 11-Nov-06 12:49 PM
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#13. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Calgary, CA
          

>lambert13,
>What are you referring to when you said, “The tilted horizon
>issue with the D50".

A large number of D50 users (myself included) had an issue with pictures sloping off the right, because we were using the top horizontal line of the viewfinder as a reference to the horizon.

D80 | MB-D80 Grip | Nikkor 50mm f1.8D | Nikkor 85mm f1.8D | Nikkor 18-70mm f 3.5/4.6G ED | Nikkor 70-300mm f 4/5.6G ED | Tamron 90mm f 2.8 Macro | Nikon SB-600

  

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Solutions Etcetera Registered since 21st Jun 2006Sat 11-Nov-06 02:43 PM
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#14. "RE: D50 surprise"
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Pollock Pines, US
          

Well Lambert... I hope you are happier with the D80. But be aware that I went through three D80s and all had several stuck pixels and many hot pixels. The two D50s I have owned had none... and I have never noticed the viewfinder issue either (knock on wood).

Best regards,


Scott Simon
Solutions Etcetera

Scott Simon

Solutions Etcetera
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