I would like to buy a new digital SLR, but I'm getting confused with all the different cameras on the market. this is the point:
I own a Canon Powershot S30 and an old Vivitar V4000 argentique (semi-automatic).
for the moment, I'm considering the Nikon D50, the D70s (as the prices are falling down with the arrival of the Nikon D80) and the Canon Digital Rebel XT.
all these cameras seem to be good choices (according to the different reviews). the things that make me hesitating are:
-the lack of depth of field preview on D50
-the fact that the second screen on the D50 as no light
-I have already several Compact Flash cards (one of 256 Mb and one of 128 Mb and a smaller one)
-the lens sold in kit with D70s seems to be better
-as I have a Canon, maybe the Canon will be easier to use for me (same menus???)
what would be the best to do?
#1. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 0
radford Registered since 08th Sep 2006Tue 19-Sep-06 11:04 AM
I recently bought a D50, after considering some of the same issues. I also have a
Canon S30, as well as the more recent S70. Unfortunately, I don't have a Digital
Rebel to compare with. However, the reviews I've read indicate that the Rebel's
18-55mm kit lens is much inferior to the 18-55mm Nikon kit lens.
I didn't find learning the D50's menus to be much of a problem. Going back and
forth between the two cameras might cause mental confusion, but I think you're
not too likely to use the S30 much after you get a new camera (though it is much
smaller, of course...).
As far as I can tell (from reviews), the image quality of the D50 is actually better than
that of the D70s, particular with regard to high ISO shots, so it seems strange to pay
more for a D70s. A depth-of-field preview button might indeed be useful, though.
I haven't used my D50 at night yet, so I can't comment on how annoying lack of
illumination for the top display is.
When getting SD cards for the D50, I was surprised at how cheap memory cards have
become, so I think being able to reuse your CF cards is not a big benefit.
With regard to lenses, you can certainly get either the D50 or the D70s with whatever
lens you want, though perhaps there are good prices on certain package deals. I
discussed the merits of the 18-55mm versus the 18-70mm in a post a few days ago,
at http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID201/16375.html (one additional
comment though, is that the flaws of the 18-70mm are probably mostly correctable
by post-processing to remove distortion and vignetting).
If you're concerned about depth-of-field preview, perhaps you are interested in macro
shots, in which case the 18-55mm certainly seems to be a better choice than the
18-70mm. Some shots of mine with the 18-55mm and a +1 diopter magnifying
filter are in a recent post of mine, and in my gallery:
It's also possible that a Nikkor 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 might be what you want, since it
has 1:2 macro capability (ie, maximum magnification 0.5). I haven't tried this lens yet,
though. Of course, you'd then lose the wide end compared to the 18-55mm or the
18-70mm. Depends on what you're interested in shooting...
#2. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 1
James23p Nikonian since 25th Apr 2004Tue 19-Sep-06 11:25 AM
I always tell people to go try first feel has alot to do with how happy your are with your camera.
That said I will address a few thing:
One the 18-55 is a great deal at the price plus it has less distortion at the wide angle than the 18-70 but the 18-70 has more reach better build and faster AF-S. But for image quality the 18-55 holds its own.
Next the DOF preview. I thought I would miss this since I am an avid film user and MF nikons yet with the LCD and the fact that the viewfinder on DSLRs with a crop factor(all of the ones you listed) I am not sure that the smaller viewfinders will provide all that much detail when using the DOF button. When I tried it on the D70 it seemed to dim now the d80 and above show much more of the picture at a higher magnification they would make good use of the DOF button.
From all the reviews the D50 has the best picture out of camera and the lowest high ISO noise but in the end all of the cameras can take great pictures I feel the photographer has more to do with this than the camera. But I do find the D50 to be excellent and a great buy for the money.
Another thing about the 18-55 most people eventually upgrade to the 18-200 and maybe the 18-135 if you get the 18-55 to start you are out a 100 bucks vs 350 for the 18-70, just a thought.
last go out and play around and try them all I can not say it enough get a feel how they feel in the end only you know what you like. Kind Regards Jim
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#4. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 0
Just a few points as a new D50 user.
* lack of DOP, had it on my 8008 but never used it in 14 years. I feel like if you understand how aparture settings work one can get easily by without. Photos I shot where it could have been important, turned out just perfect without the DOP button.
* SD memory. I used CF in the past but noticed since I am using SD now that despite much larger filesize my upload is much faster than CF (and that using the same card reader).
* All your information is also available in the viewfinder (plus, my 8008 did not have an illuminated LCD on the outside, either, and still turned out some great night shots). 2 weeks ago I took about 150 shots with my D5o at a Rick Springfield concert, amphitheater at night, very little light, photos were easy to shoot, came out amazing.
* I also used the kitlens, 18-55, in various settings and got some very sharp and undistorted shots back.
Hope this helps.
#5. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 0
I looked carefully at all 3 cameras before buying a D50. I do miss DOF preview and mirror lockup with macro shots. But they weren't a deal breaker. Digital gives instant feedback. The ability to use my stable of older AF nikkor lenses made the decision an easy one. I've been very happy with my D50. I think you also need to consider the availability of quality lenses.
#6. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 0
I suggest going with the D50. Its an excellent camera and since its so cheap, you can buy another lens with the money you have left over. Or buy a speedlight.
When I was searching for cameras, I asked a professional photographer (my mentor in my quest in photojournalism), Miles B. Norman(www.milesbnorman.com) what camera I should get. He said to go with the D50. The D50 and D70(s) have very little difference in the long run. So as I said before, go with the D50 and spend the extra money you have on lenses, speedlights and more. I am positive you will completely LOVE the D50, I sure did!
#9. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 6
olismal Registered since 14th Sep 2006Mon 25-Sep-06 01:25 PM
thank you for all these advice.
I think I'm going to buy the D50 with the kit lens (18-55)
and afterwards, when I will begin to be familiar to the device, I will buy another lens.
Do you think it's a good idea or do you suggest me to buy the D50 body only an directly buy an bigger lens (for exemple 18-135mm ...)?
#7. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 0
>-the lack of depth of field preview on D50
Look afterwards using the LCD and the magnify function.
>-the fact that the second screen on the D50 as no light
Yes, that is annoying at times.
>-I have already several Compact Flash cards (one of 256 Mb
>and one of 128 Mb and a smaller one)
Card are cheap and yours are small
>-the lens sold in kit with D70s seems to be better
A little. If you go D-50 get the kit, get a longer lens later. The D70 lens may be a bit better, but the 18-55 is not a bad lens.
>-as I have a Canon, maybe the Canon will be easier to use
>for me (same menus???)
Maybe, don't know.
>what would be the best to do?
My final answer was posted above by someone else and was the determining factor for my choice. Go hold them both, take some pictures. Which feels better in your hand and which has the buttons and controls you use in the right places.
#8. "RE: which DSLR to buy?" | In response to Reply # 7
edmun Registered since 16th Sep 2003Wed 20-Sep-06 12:16 AM
The D80 would be my choice if money was not a issue.
There are many new imporvements on this camera over the D50 and D70 including a brighter view finder and more focus spots (this can be more iportant than you think following action)
PS I have tested the Canon 18-50 and the Nikon 18-70 at 18 mm and f8 - no difference at 10x15.