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zonk Registered since 02nd Nov 2005Mon 19-Dec-05 10:31 PM
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"Photos Dull?"



          

I have just returned from a 10 day trip in Mexico on the west coast. When I got home and reviewed the shots almost every photo taken has a dull appearance to it and when I use the quick fix feature in Photoshop it lightens all the photos. On my D70 I have the image setting set to Photoshop and almost all of the photos taken were outside with the kit lense. I shot on JPEG fine large and used a Lexar 2X card. All of the other settings are default. Is there a setting that I need to change? I am using a UV filter on the lense and most of the situations were clear sunny days. The shot that really pointed out the dullness was a city shot down a partially sunlit alley, even the blue sky was dull? Thoughts?


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elayaoen Registered since 02nd Nov 2005Mon 19-Dec-05 10:54 PM
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#1. "RE: Photos Dull?"
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Bay Area - California,
          

zonk,
you may want to read this thread.

http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID86/15189.html#1

  

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sixgun Registered since 26th May 2004Mon 19-Dec-05 10:59 PM
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Austin, US
          

-Use Color Mode II (Nikon Adobe 98) vs Color Mode 1 (sRGB). Use IIIA for a wild ride on landscapes.
-For color intensity use "enhanced".
-If you use matrix meter shoot with a +,3 to .5 EV compensation. Matrix meters for highlights as a result you can get the mids being kind of dull.
-Consider bumping up the contrast setting up one.

These are great for travel type photos, maybe not so good for portraits.

But the REAL solution (so you don't regret your "mistakes")
Shoot and learn to process RAW. If you miss it the first time you can bring a lot of punch back.


  

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canuck Registered since 31st Oct 2005Mon 19-Dec-05 11:57 PM
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Windsor, CA
          

When I first used my D70 in December, 2004 I had the same complaint. Thanks to advice obtained here on Nikonians, my current default settings are:

Exposure compensation +0.3
Sharpening (Normal or +1)
Tone comp Auto
Color mode IIIa for landscapes, Ia for portraits
Saturation Enhanced
Hue adjustment 0
White balance Cloudy (set from -1 to -3 depending on light)

Also, expose to the right of the histogram.
I primarily shoot JPEG Large Fine and get great shots right out of the camera with minimal post processing required.
Good luck!

Canuck

D200
18-200VR, 50 1.8, 70-300G
SB-600, MB-D200

  

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manubmengi Registered since 19th Jul 2004Wed 21-Dec-05 07:37 PM
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>Also, expose to the right of the histogram.

hi canuk,

one simple question.......
how to expose to the right of the histogram?????

thanks in advance
dr manu

  

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dark13star Registered since 31st Oct 2005Tue 20-Dec-05 12:39 AM
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Denver, US
          

I agree with the others on settings. There is no perfect setting for everything, so learn what they do. However, I generally find that positive exposure compensation is important.

Also, I now shoot raw for everything, even if it is just snapshots. I can always batch them into jpegs, but if you shoot in jpeg, you can never get back the lost data. I have spent the last month really learning how to process raw and working with ACR and Capture (I just got the latter) and now I really feel limited when I go back to an older jpeg image and process for printing.

Finally, what is the quality of your filter? Is it clean on both sides? There is no compelling reason to use UV filters on digital, other than protecting the lens (IMHO), and I am now giving up on anything other than ND filters for exposure compensation. I would rather shoot through less glass. It does seem to make a difference in sharpness.

Good luck.

Rich


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RECH12 Registered since 05th Nov 2004Tue 20-Dec-05 03:34 PM
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I had this problem with a D70 I purchased in November 2004.

  

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MstrBones Silver Member Nikonian since 06th Dec 2005Tue 20-Dec-05 04:16 PM
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Zonk,

Can you post an example photo or two?

Since your photos are jpeg, you'll have to fiddle around in your image editor and possibly get back some of the color and punch that you'd like to see. Try Hue, saturation, HMS.

I've spent a lot of time in the Caribbean. In Cozumel, the hazy days sometimes muted photos taken that encompassed larger scenes. Is that what you are seeing?

Contrary to the silly post to get rid of your D70 for a 350D, I'd say you just need to use the various custom settings and take a look at your lenses, then consider RAW.

Regards,

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Equis25 Registered since 02nd Jan 2005Tue 20-Dec-05 05:37 PM
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Utica, US
          

zonk,

There's an excellent post a few pages back that you may want to take a look at. It's topic #15189 by J3R. This deals with "Great pictures straight from the D70". Rgds,

HERMAN

  

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cgaengineer Registered since 31st Oct 2005Tue 20-Dec-05 08:40 PM
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Winder, US
          

Can I refer you to this thread, very useful and a big difference in color and sharpness. I use these settings in both of my D70's now.

http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID86/15189.html#0

  

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bclaff Silver Member Awarded for multiple contributions for the Resources Nikonian since 26th Oct 2004Wed 21-Dec-05 07:52 PM
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Vancouver (WA USA not Canada), US
          

Mark,

On my D70 I have the image setting set to Photoshop

What do you mean by this?

What mode are you using?
What color mode are you useing?

It would help a lot to see a sample.
IMO, without more input from you this thread could be way off target.

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vipros Registered since 28th Oct 2005Thu 22-Dec-05 02:08 PM
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All above said are true. However there is another fact that makes the photo a dull appearance: monitor calibration. Generally speaking tube monitor is much brighter and more colorful than most LCD monitor.

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bclaff Silver Member Awarded for multiple contributions for the Resources Nikonian since 26th Oct 2004Thu 22-Dec-05 03:34 PM
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Vancouver (WA USA not Canada), US
          

Felix,

Good point although the original post seems to indicate that they can be "fixed" in Photoshop; so I'm thinking Color Mode or some other similar setting rather than the monitor.


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jaytheman Registered since 14th Aug 2004Fri 23-Dec-05 04:55 AM
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Belmont, US
          

Did you ever post one of the pictures somewhere with its relevant shooting data? I believe you will get more helpful comments this way vs. generalizations which may or may not apply.

Jay

  

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jku Registered since 28th Oct 2005Fri 23-Dec-05 10:03 AM
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Zonk may not have a location where he could post a sample picture. Perhaps yourself or some other kind member may offer to post a picture here on his behalf?

john

  

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have removed several posts in this thread which had NOTHING to do
with the original poster's question and in fact were approaching disrespectful.
Let's stick to the question at hand
please and see what we can do to help out.

Thank you for your understanding.

-Lela


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drop your camera into a river of
molten lava, let it go because,
man, it's gone."


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mureena Registered since 02nd Nov 2005Thu 29-Dec-05 03:24 AM
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FI
          

sixgun nails it I think.

A couple of examples would also help highlight your problem better. I have also noticed that when comparing the same photos on different computer screens the differences are wild. Never make final judgements on color unless you are using a color-mode compatible screen that has been calibrated.

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