Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite
Hello ALL Nikonians,
Firstly thanks to Racepics and Asgard for you comments and guidance. As you will soon discover, I am not only new to this forum, but also new to operating on a forum on the net, but as times goes by, and with a little help from my friends, I will get the hang of it all.
I have a small problem, (I hope) I have just bought myself a pre-owned D70S, and whenever I take indoor photos, there appear fine in the monitor, but when I download them to my PC, I have to add flash to brighten them up. What am I doing wrong.
At this stage I have only used the camera in AUTO mode, I do not have the experience to use any of the other modes yet.
I have tried mainly shooting people (my family) indoors in the AUTO mode.
Lens is the 18-70 F/3.5-4.5 G if DX.
Used the onboard Speedlite that pops up automatically.
Monitor contrast is set to 0.
ISO is set to auto
I use multi focusing in fine mode with BW @ A.
Any assistance on this would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to hearing from you all.
Best regards and fondest greetings from South Africa
#1. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 0
antca Registered since 05th Feb 2007Tue 05-Jun-07 12:06 PM
Are you shooting RAW or JPG?
What program do you use to view the images?
If it's raw the program you use to view can make a big differance on how the images look on PC screens.
On a side note:
Another, I'll bet you can easily get off of "Auto" mode.
I prefer to suggest folks go and use manual till they get the jist of all the settings etc...
However, try Aprature Priority (A) for a bit.
There is really only 2 additional things you would need to think of,
Do I need more light (lower # = more light / Larger # less light) and how much of the seen depth do I want in focus (big # = more in focus / Small# less in focus)
It all affects your shutter speed (you want high # for shutter)
Head outside around sunset.. note the shutter speed, change the apurature shooting a few things, as the sun goes down you'll see the relationship between the two (shutter speed and aprature).
At least this is all FUN!
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#2. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 1
HVAC GUY Nikonian since 26th Nov 2006Tue 05-Jun-07 01:45 PM
Hi Errol, Welcome.
If your images look reasonably well exposed in the cameras rear LCD display, they should look somewhat similar on your computers monitor screen.
Most of the time the images on the rear of the cameras LCD display are best judged for proper exposure using the histogram graph, because much depends on the ambient light that you are viewing that LCD in at any given time.
As another responder noted you can increase the brightness etc. of the image on your computer with post processing software that can improve the captured image.
Also of course is the computer monitor itself and the gamma it is set at that impacts on how your downloaded images appear.
Do other images of photos from websites etc. appear bright, are the white areas of those images white.
I used to have a CRT type of monitor and switched to an LCD monitor when I went to digital and upgraded to a better home computer.
As far as camera use I agree with the previous responder regarding your ability to learn more about the camera by experimenting with some other shooting modes.
I would start by using P mode next, it chooses apertures and shutter speeds the same way Auto does but gives you much more control.
You would decide if you want to use the flash in that mode as it would not pop up on it's own.
You will be able to decide what the camera focuses on rather than the camera making the decision for you.
Same with ISO, while auto ISO has some very real advantages most of the time you will want to choose the lowest ISO that will work in any given situation as that will provide the best quality images.
The best advice anyone here can give you is to read your cameras user manual, this will help you understand the advantages as well as the disadvantages of it's many features.
Good luck with your new camera, read and ask questions, that's how we all learn.
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#3. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 0
#4. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 3
zs1pi Registered since 02nd Jun 2007Thu 07-Jun-07 11:01 AM
Hi All Nikonians,
Thank for the words of welcome and also for the comments and advise received. A special word of thanks to HWDX 347 HVAC GUY ANTCA and Paul Fisher, for their comments.
Being an original male, I only really picked up the User Manual afterwards. I also went out and purchased the book Digital SLR Cameras and Photography for Dummies by David Busch, to increase my skills and knowledge levels.
But I must admit, that, when I first turned on the camera, and placed it in Auto Mode, I expected to provide me with good pictures. The fact that this did not happened, gave me the impression that either I was doing something wrong or that there was something wrong with the camera. I previously used a Cannon G5 Powershot, which is really a point-and-shoot unit, but it gave me great quality pix in Auto mode, all the time. The D70S, gives me great pix outdoors, its the indoors or flash photography that gave rise to my concerns, in that all of them are under exposed. However, I am sure I will get around the problem, I have also had a look at the archives, and have found some information I will try at a later stage, at this stage I have my eyes into the book I have just purchased.
Best regards to ALL
#5. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 4
cliddell Nikonian since 10th Oct 2006Tue 12-Jun-07 09:01 AM
If you didn't get the Nikon User Manual with your camera then you can download a copy from a Nikon web site. It is essential to have this manual as these cameras are far more complicated than a typical P&S.
I believe any time you invest in reading should initially be spent in the user manual and later "refined" in a generic book if necessary.
Ha ha, it has taken me over a year and I believe I am starting to get the hang of my two D70s's.
BTW regarding your "indoor" flash problem I use only M and have found that setting the camera exposure compensation to +0.7 or even +1 (using TTL) solves my underexposure problem with the built in and the SB-800 and gives a nice full histogram.
Good luck and happy shooting!
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#6. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 0
>I have tried mainly shooting people (my family) indoors in
>the AUTO mode.
We all have to start somewhere. Next, try P mode. Similar to AUTO, except you get to choose the sensitivity (ISO) and to use flash or not. It's a "baby step," but a step none the less.
>Used the onboard Speedlite that pops up automatically.
This may be part of the problem. Insufficient additional light. You may want to invest in one of the external Speedlights. I'd bypass the SB-400 in favor of the SB-600 as a minimum. The SB-800 has a number of other advantages, but I can also see where the SB-600, despite it's lower power, would be of benefit to many. Ken Rockwell recommends the SB-600 over the SB-800.
>Monitor contrast is set to 0.
That's good. Especially with a used camera, it's good to go through and reset everything.
The only other thing I can think of that hasn't been mentioned yet is to advise you to start looking at the histogram, and begin noticing how exposure bias effects the histogram.
dSLRs are faster than P&S cameras because, frankly, they don't think as much. So instead of the camera thinking for itself, you have to do some for it. A lot of that thinking ought to be on "problem solving," such as this.
All the best,
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#7. "RE: Help with D70s and Onboard Speedlite" | In response to Reply # 6
simpo two Registered since 17th Aug 2004Wed 13-Jun-07 01:37 PM
The problem is that you simply cannot use the LCD monitor as a guide to exposure. For example, it looks darker outside (almost invisible in sunlight) and much brighter inside - so how can you judge exposure from it?
Don't worry, it's an easy trap and one which I fell into as well. The only way you can check exposure with any degree of accuracy in the field is to use the histogram.
You do need to use it, because DSLRs can underexpose by two stops in seemingly normal situations, even with flash.