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asen   Toronto, CA  Registered since 05th May 2006 Wed 02-Aug-06 05:49 PM
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"People switching from D200 to D80"



I feel some could switch and use the extra cash to buy lenses. We might get some D200 in the second hand market?

Any views?

thanks

A Sen
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Reply message RE: People switching from D200 to D80 briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014
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briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014   Paignton, UK  Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003 Wed 02-Aug-06 05:54 PM
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#1. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Welcome to Nikonians, Arindam!

Whether what you suggest happens will probably depend on how much people can get for their used D200 bodies, and the actual price of the "D80", when it hits the market. Even though the D200 is a relatively new model, I would personally doubt that there would be much "extra cash" to be made from such a trade.

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MstrBones Silver Member  AW  Nikonian since 06th Dec 2005 Thu 03-Aug-06 07:50 PM
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#10. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I tend to agree with your assessment, Brian. Just my 2 cents, the D80, from a features perspective, will be a more basic D200, like the D50 is to the D70s,(probably more stripped down, based on the pics we've seen to date).

If I had a D200, I'd be hard pressed to want to let it go for a lesser version of the camera.

Buying new, D80 vs D200, that's where people will debate themselves to death on the cost/value balance.

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JHTGlobal   TH  Registered since 01st Jun 2006 Sat 05-Aug-06 03:53 PM
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Was told that D80 would be priced around 50,000 Baht. And currently D200 sells around 65,000+ Baht. Hence the difference.

It will be hard to really choose which one to get especially with the difference in pricing.

  

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asen   Toronto, CA  Registered since 05th May 2006 Wed 02-Aug-06 05:58 PM
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#2. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Hi brian,

Thanks for your views. The D200 is about $2000+ here is toronto and the D80 is rumored to be around $900-1000. Hence my thought

Only time will tell!!!!!!!!!

thanks again

A Sen
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Radiohead   Basingstoke, UK  Basic Member Wed 02-Aug-06 06:10 PM
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#3. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I'll be very surprised if the D80 is half the price or less of the D200. $1300-1400 Canadian would be my guess.

Personally I don't see many buyers shifting downwards in that way.

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slowry88   Walnut Creek, US  Registered since 06th May 2004 Wed 02-Aug-06 09:25 PM
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#4. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I suggest you sell your D200 now, then you can be the first onto the 6 month waiting list for the "D70 upgrade".

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Necaris   Freienstein, CH  Registered since 26th Jul 2006 Thu 03-Aug-06 10:32 AM
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#5. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Why should one "trade" a D200 who is superior to the D80 anyway?
To get one more lense and then have to use it with a lesser camera?
Normaly, you upgrade to a better more complex model and not vice versa.

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spacer Awarded for his contributions to the Resources   DE  Basic Member Thu 03-Aug-06 02:08 PM
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#6. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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If the D80 would be to the D200 what the D70 is to the D100 I would switch in a heartbeat.

I consider the D70 superior to the D100.
For a start, the D80 will probably be lighter than the D200. I don't need the speed and buffer of the D200, but I need a camera as light as possible.
Maybe it gives the option of an affordable remote.
I would even take CAM900 again. CAM1000 does not convince me in speed and lock-on ability.
One would "make" a few hundred dollars by downgrading. I would add a few bucks and buy the 10.5 mm DX.
I will not downgrade if it requires SD cards.

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Michael1597   IE  Basic Member Thu 03-Aug-06 02:22 PM
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#7. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I still use the D100 in preference to the D70, there still some of us who still got the D70. Have you seen the D200 spec list? The D80 would have go some to better it and at a lower price. What most people are really hoping for is that the sensor is a little better, being as it is newer.


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nelsong   DO  Registered since 14th Apr 2006 Fri 04-Aug-06 01:18 PM
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#16. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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>If the D80 would be to the D200 what the D70 is to the D100
>I would switch in a heartbeat.

How old was the D100 when the D70 came out?

Right now I'm betting for a D70s with a lot of upgrades, but not really at par with the D200.


What I'm actually worried about is the size, I want something as big as the D70 not smaller...smaller is not better, specially with my big clumsy hands.

  

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westcoast   California, US  Registered since 28th Jan 2007 Fri 04-Aug-06 01:43 PM
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"For a start, the D80 will probably be lighter than the D200. I don't need the speed and buffer of the D200, but I need a camera as light as possible."

Funny thing is I bought a D200 because I do need the speed and buffer. If didn't, the D70 that I have would do just fine, I can live with 6 megapixel camera.

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DigitalConvert   Sydney, AU  Registered since 09th Nov 2005 Fri 04-Aug-06 02:17 AM
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#13. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Bodies are less important than lenses. Why get a good body and put only half-decent glass on it?

  

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SVA   CH  Registered since 27th Jun 2004 Fri 04-Aug-06 08:59 AM
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#14. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Bodies are less important then lenses? Not yet - in digital world!

First, resolving powers of different sensors are much more different then those ones of different lenses.

Second, resolution of even the very best sensor is too low in comparison to film to feel the difference between a decent and a perfect lense.

You'll need about 20 MP in DX to justify 17-55/2.8 in terms of resolution (not power though).

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Valentino Gold Member Awarded for high level skills in landscape and wildlife photography   US  Nikonian since 04th Dec 2004 Thu 03-Aug-06 02:54 PM
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A more likely scenario is that the D70 will be sold in the secodn hand market. I have a D70 and D200. The D70 is my backup but I would prefer a 10mp backup so the result is apples and apples. And maybe even have a D80 mounted to a landscape lens like a 12-24 and my faster(?) D200 on the longer lenses so I would not have to swith when in the field.

It is unlikely that someone would lose money by selling a D200 to buy a more consumer oriented camera just to get a few hundred dollars. But it is likely that many on a budget would get the D80 instead of a D200 if buying from scratch.

Time will tell

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Necaris   Freienstein, CH  Registered since 26th Jul 2006 Thu 03-Aug-06 03:26 PM
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Maybe we should wait for the real specs of the D80 and then discuss this

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asen   Toronto, CA  Registered since 05th May 2006 Thu 03-Aug-06 08:20 PM
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Would it be safe to theorize that the D80 would give good competition to the prospective D200 buyers assuming they have similar specs, with the D200 having a more robust body. For someone not in the top Pro league a lighter body might have greater appeal

I remember starting out with the F100 and then shifting to the F80 simply b'coz it was too darned heavy,

Views welcome!!!!!!!!!!!




  

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#12. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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My view so far, with the little (if any) knowledge we possess now, is that there will be some who switch, but the relative amount of people switching from D200 to D80 will be much lower than those who switched from the D100 to D70/s. Granted, when the D100 came out it was both very advanced for its time as well as very expensive. Although the D200 is very similar in this regard, the D200 (in my opinion) has much less room to improve compared to the D100.

For the D100 to have held any ground above the D70/s, it should at least have had CAM1300, F100 body or similar build quality, iTTL, and a reasonable buffer.

-I'm proposing that the D80 will not have the same (11-pt.)AF module as the D200 considering that it only has a 4-way thumbpad - D200 wins again.

-Now, we all know already that the D80 is going to have a plastic body ; D200 wins in build quality hands down there.

-It wouldn't make much sense for Nikon to upgrade iTTL at this point, since as a system it works very well and most people are only beginning to learn the virtues of CLS - no clear winner here, since the D200 already supports iTTL.

-Given that this new camera is indeed a 10.2MP model, it would have to have quite the memory subsystem to support the same framerate and buffer size of the D200. RAW files grow significantly when you move from 6MP to 10MP, and if this camera is indeed going to cost $900-$1000 for the body alone, there is no way that it'll be able to compete with the D200 in this regard either.

D200 owners - myself included - should remain content for a while. It's one thing for Nikon to build a baby D2X for $1700; for them to do it in a $900 plastic shell with a dummy-mode dial would be nothing short of blasphemy. Amen.

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#15. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Well said Domenic. Everyone is getting so uptight Every time I go out for a job, people see the D200 and say, NICE......They know!


Now if I just knew how to turn the thing on!

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Lynceus Silver Member  Louisville, US  Charter Member Sat 05-Aug-06 12:27 AM
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#18. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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SVA and Domenic, thanks for the analysis. Very helpful,

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dwayner    Calgary, CA  Registered since 15th Jan 2005 Sat 05-Aug-06 01:37 AM
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#19. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Come on. No one with a D200 is going to sell it for a D80. Thats just nonsense. Many looking to buy a D200 may end up with a D80 though. I hope the D80 is in stores before Christmas.

  

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F2AS Silver Member  Washington, US  Nikonian since 23rd Nov 2005 Sat 05-Aug-06 02:04 AM
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#20. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Agree. I don't know why anyone would sell their D200 to get a D80. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But I do think many, like me, who may have considered a D200 for its 10 megapixelimage detail will go with the lower priced D80 instead. There will be those trashing the D80 (just look at some of the posts in this thread already), but I have no doubt this will be yet another great Nikon just as the D200 is. Some D200 owners may consider it as a viable backup.

Mike

  

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#22. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I got so excited about this new release I bought a D200 last night...


  

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fspeeder   Barrington, US  Registered since 07th Jan 2005 Sun 06-Aug-06 03:17 AM
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:D

That was like me. I was not considering a D200 was it was announced as I had a D2X and was perfectly happy with it. Yet the excitement built on by the anticipation went up each day so I told myself what the heck and ordered one.

  

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akers Silver Member  Roseville, US  Nikonian since 10th Aug 2004 Sun 06-Aug-06 02:59 AM
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#23. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I currently have a D200 and a D70. I will probably give thte D70 to my daughter and get a D80 as my second body. Most lilkely. the 70-200 2.8 VR will stay on the D200 and the 28-70 2.8 will stay on the D80.

Regardless of the type of memory card, both CF and SD are getting so cheap that buying a couple more is not that big a deal.

  

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quan00   The Woodlands, US  Registered since 08th Jan 2003 Mon 07-Aug-06 08:38 PM
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#25. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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I have a D200 and love it! If I had the money, I can't imagine anything other than a D2Xs or D2Hs to make me switch from my D200.

I don't know why Nikon made this camera body to take the SD card. It would have been nice if they would of just kept CF cards in their entire line.

I don't think that this will deter anyone from getting the D80, but it sure is something to look at. I know I don't want to carry assorted media types in my camera bag.


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Spectric   Northern Cumbria, UK  Registered since 04th Nov 2004 Tue 08-Aug-06 12:49 PM
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#26. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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Hi all

My debate has been when & if to move up to the D200 from a D70. Ok the D200 has some features that I would really apreciate such as more options in the bracketing menu, uncompressed Raw & a more solid sealed camera body, but there are not enough plus's for me to buy a D200 due to the extra cost involved. So there is probabily no chance what so ever of me considering a D80 as this will not meet the D200 specification & I will hold out for the D300 or wait till the D200 drops in price. At the moment more Glass will offer me more than a D80.

I would say that the D80 will be more suited to serious amateurs buying their first digital SLR, or moving up from a coolpix/non slr.

Also mega pixels are a sales pitch, quality is better than quantity !


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#27. "RE: People switching from D200 to D80"
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The D80 specs look great on paper. Almost 300 g lighter!

If the picture quality is as good as the D200 I'll probably switch.

And lesson learned: When the D300 gets released I'll only have to wait a short while for the D90...

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