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Petersko Registered since 07th Aug 2009Sun 22-Apr-12 03:26 PM
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"Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
Sun 22-Apr-12 03:27 PM by Petersko

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I've got a D90, and I still very much enjoy it, but I've been lusting after the D800 something fierce. However, I do not have lenses that will do full frame.

I've been thinking that if I'm willing to wait a year, I should be able to knock quite a chunk off the price of the D800. Lenses, of course, are a different matter.

So I've been considering buying the Nikkor AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8G VRII in preparation for making the jump.

My question: is that lens a reasonable companion for the D90, or am I buying myself some pain?

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JosephK Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006Sun 22-Apr-12 06:49 PM
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#1. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Seattle, WA, US
          

The 70-200mm is a great lens on any body, including the D90.

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Joseph K
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D700, D200, D70S, 24-70mm f/2.8, VR 70-200mm f/2.8 II, 50mm f/1.4 D,
17-55mm f/2.8 DX, 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR, 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5 DX

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Sun 22-Apr-12 07:16 PM
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#2. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Sun 22-Apr-12 07:17 PM by MEMcD

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Hi Keith,

While I don't have a D90, the 70-200mm VR works very well on my D_ series, D_ _ series and D70s bodies. My sister has used my 70-200 on her D3000 and wants to keep it. The only drawback for some is the size and weight. That said, once you get used to using "Fast Glass" like the 70-200mm it is tough to go back regardless of the size and weight.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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ShrimpBoy Silver Member Nikonian since 08th Jan 2006Mon 23-Apr-12 01:02 PM
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#3. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Brighton and Hove, GB
          

Definitely buy the lens first, you can't lose. Good glass and an oldie like a D70 would turn out great results, so your D90 is more than capable. You can then wait and get more fast glass first, or you can splurge on the FX body.

Personally I know I won't want to carry so much weight. So I'm avoiding FX and I'm avoiding fast glass (which would tempt me into FX). It's a bit pathetic, but worse would be watching it gather dust on a shelf.

Gary
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David D Busch Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Nov 2011Tue 24-Apr-12 04:43 AM
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#4. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Buy the lens. Unless you're making huge enlargements or need the full HD video that the D800 has but the D90 lacks, your current camera is completely up to the task of taking great pictures with the 70-200 VR II. I owned the D90, and at the time it was like having a mini-D300. Today, I use the original VR I version of the lens for about 80 percent of what I shoot.

Predicting the future is difficult, but my guess is that waiting a year may enable you to set aside some money for the D800, but the time lapse is not going to shave anything from the retail price of the camera. Nikon will be lucky to catch up on all the back-orders in the next year.

  

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pixures Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Feb 2009Tue 24-Apr-12 01:10 PM
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#5. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Another vote for the 70-200. I purchased the lens last December to pair with my D90. Its a fantastic lens. I have used if for sports photography, wildlife, and indoor theater performances with great success.

The following images were captured with the 70-200 on a D90 from the back of the lower stands at a recent baseball game.

Juan Bautista swings and misses - note the seams of the ball:

A close play at home plate:

I too am considering an upgrade from my D90 but am waiting to see the Nikon announcement for what will replace the D300s. I am hoping for higher frames per second than offered by the D800.

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clayolmstead Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Jul 2010Wed 27-Jun-12 03:57 AM
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#18. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Austin, US
          

This is what I'm talking about: Bill knows what he wants, why he wants it and how he'll use it. Without that, we're all just ogling the next toy and the next and the next...

Clay
Austin, TX USA

  

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pixures Silver Member Nikonian since 24th Feb 2009Tue 24-Apr-12 01:14 PM
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#6. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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My mistake - I replied to a reply - sorry about that. This was my first post.

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JerryT Registered since 31st May 2010Wed 25-Apr-12 08:56 AM
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#7. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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What's to be painful about a 70-200?

I always invest in glass first, cameras second.

Jerry

  

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MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007Wed 25-Apr-12 03:27 PM
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#8. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Hi Keith,

Remember that camera bodies come and go, "Fast Glass" is a lifetime investment.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

  

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Petersko Registered since 07th Aug 2009Sat 28-Apr-12 12:29 AM
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#9. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Well, clearly there is concensus.

Thanks all. That just makes sense.

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quenton8 Silver Member Awarded for bringing his experience to the Nikonians community helping members with printing and the use of post-processing software from the perspective of an IT professional. Nikonian since 11th Apr 2010Sat 28-Apr-12 01:39 AM
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#10. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Toronto, CA
          

I want a D800

Sorry to be the stand-out -- its not reasonable just what I WANT.

Having a D90 I don't NEED a D800 at this point ...

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TheGreatMike Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2007Thu 03-May-12 10:56 PM
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#11. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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get the lens

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espeto68 Gold Member Nikonian since 29th Aug 2010Sun 06-May-12 06:31 PM
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#12. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Oeiras, PT
          

Hi,

I was in the same boat as you and,... got an used D700
So, right now, i´m in the process of "insanely" looking for an 70-200 VR II. Till then, will have to work with my current setup. Will keep my D90 as a backup camera.

José

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Enthus_Photo Registered since 16th May 2012Fri 18-May-12 12:45 AM
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#13. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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I agree with the others that said lens, though I doubt that the price of the D800 will drop much in price. Nikon has implemented new pricing policies to their authorized retailers in the US that will make it less likely for them to discount.

Certainly there will eventually be used D800's out there in reasonable quantities at some point.

In any case, the 70-200 VRII is an amazing lens, and will be amazing on any body you have. Just be prepared for the bulk. I love my girthy 80-200, but it is a beast!

  

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walk43 Gold Member Nikonian since 07th Feb 2012Fri 18-May-12 08:39 PM
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#14. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Pennsylvania, US
          

OK...let me add another perspective. I had a D90 and had the 70-200 VR on it and loved the combo. Then I got the D800 and I still love the combo only now even more. Everyone is saying get the good glass first and the camera second. Generally I agree....but all I ask is that you consider whether there is something the D800 will do that you want to do and can't with the D90. For me...since I do a lot of close up and macro work, I wanted better resolution, DR and ISO....better glass could not get me that. I had a great macro lens but didn't have the DR or the resolution to make the macros better....glass would not help.... I wanted and needed the 36mp. The D800 may come down a bit but not for awhile...they are still about 6 months out on the old and new pre-orders. The D90 will go down in price on the used market..it already is. So I would not worry about advantages or disadvantages with oppotunity costs. Think about what you need to get better pics and plan for it.

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Enthus_Photo Registered since 16th May 2012Sat 19-May-12 03:11 PM
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#15. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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US
          

>OK...let me add another perspective. I had a D90 and had the
>70-200 VR on it and loved the combo. Then I got the D800 and I
>still love the combo only now even more. Everyone is saying
>get the good glass first and the camera second. Generally I
>agree....but all I ask is that you consider whether there is
>something the D800 will do that you want to do and can't with
>the D90. For me...since I do a lot of close up and macro work,
>I wanted better resolution, DR and ISO....better glass could
>not get me that. I had a great macro lens but didn't have the
>DR or the resolution to make the macros better....glass would
>not help.... I wanted and needed the 36mp. The D800 may come
>down a bit but not for awhile...they are still about 6 months
>out on the old and new pre-orders. The D90 will go down in
>price on the used market..it already is. So I would not worry
>about advantages or disadvantages with oppotunity costs. Think
>about what you need to get better pics and plan for it.

I don't disagree with your comments here, but if he's only able to buy one right now, I think it is clearly the glass that works with his body and upgrade the body later. Heck, he might even find that if/when a D400 comes out that it has everything he wants while allowing the DX glass to stay in his kit.

The D90 only has so far to fall. It is in the mid-$500 range now, and I can't see it dropping below the $400's any time soon. What I'm getting at is he isn't likely to lose much money on the D90 while he's enjoying the amazing 70-200 VRII.

My $0.02. Cheers!

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#16. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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St Petersburg, RU
          

The 70-200VRI was my first additional lens for my D90 soon after the model came out. It is still my favorite lens for anything that can't fit in its field of view. I actually prefer it for candids and portraits over my 85 1.4. It will make the D90 sing so show the true potential of that fine camera. I had about 75,000 shots before it took a back seat to the D7000. Most of the shots in my gallery were taken with the D90 and either 18-105 or 70-200VRI. I find the VRI fine on my D800 as well, but the corners are darker....easily corrected in post, automatically LR4.
So consider a used VRI, perfect for DX and still really good on a full frame. A used VRi is $850-$1000 less than a new VRII and will be just as rugged and long lived as any pro level Nikon lens.
That an a 35mm 1.8 or 28 1.8 and you have a great 2 lens combination for enough of a savings to get a couple speed-lights which is the biggest single enhancement in creative options for your photography.
By the time you can afford a D800, there will be some other options, maybe a lower cost FX or a higher end DX
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clayolmstead Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Jul 2010Wed 27-Jun-12 03:52 AM
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#17. "RE: Upgrade my D90 to D800 or buy 70-200 VRII and wait?"
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Austin, US
          

I'm with you. I don't think I'd take better pictures with a D800 than I do with my D80.

Clay
Austin, TX USA

  

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