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bobj Silver Member Awarded for his multiple written contributions the the community Resources Charter MemberWed 03-Dec-03 05:42 AM
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"D70 announced today"


Sammamish, US
          

The Nikon D70 has now been officially announced:

http://www.nikon-image.com/eng/news_release/2003/d70.htm

Scheduled to go on sale in the spring of 2004.

Curiously, the pixel count has not been announced unless I missed that part

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BJNicholls Gold Member Awarded for his contributions to the community and the Resources Charter MemberWed 03-Dec-03 06:19 AM
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#1. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Salt Lake City, US
          

The non-announcement announcement. Other than a name, the press release is pure marketing vapor.

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BlueKnight Basic MemberWed 03-Dec-03 01:08 PM
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It's actually one of the most empty announcements I've ever seen. It looks more a draft than an announcement. Let's wait and see...

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Nikon Bob Registered since 16th Jul 2003Wed 03-Dec-03 02:07 PM
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#4. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Thunder Bay, CA
          

I think Nikon is a day late and a dollar short in trying to satisfy a very large part of the DSLR market so they are saying stick with us we will have a product for you, eventually. Better late than never especially with the competion as it is for DSLR market share.

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luca from rome Registered since 21st Apr 2006Wed 03-Dec-03 11:59 AM
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See also:

http://www.nikon-d70.nl

It should cost approximately 1100 euro

Luca

>The Nikon D70 has now been officially announced:
>http://www.nikon-image.com/eng/news_release/2003/d70.htm

  

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bobj Silver Member Awarded for his multiple written contributions the the community Resources Charter MemberWed 03-Dec-03 03:04 PM
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#5. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Sammamish, US
          

translated Chinese site.

If true though, why wouldn't Nikon announce that in English?

Edited to correct the referenced language from Japanese to Chinese. My Goof.

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tflub Registered since 22nd Feb 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 03:19 PM
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#6. "RE: D70 announced today"
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US
          

The photo of the D70 makes it look like it is based on an N80 body which by my estimation makes it a heck of a lot more sturdy that the Digital Rebel. I held the Digital Rebel in my hands a few weeks ago and thought I might break it. The words "plastic toy" instantly came to mind. I like this part: "The new model will offer an exclusive selection of new features and exciting Nikon SLR technology that will surpass products within the evolving digital SLR market...". I'm sure it will have spot metering, something that the so-called competition doesn't have. I've got my $1,000 sitting in my sock drawer ready to spend on one of these new babies! Bring it on!

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kc80s Registered since 29th Jan 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 03:39 PM
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#7. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Toronto, CA
          

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0312/03120301nikond70.asp

  

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kc80s Registered since 29th Jan 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 03:41 PM
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#8. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Toronto, CA
          

Yes, from the picture, it looks like it has a nice rubberized surface, unlike the 300D, which IMHO looks good in pictures but absolutely horrible in real.

It is rumoured to have the same sensor as the D100 (unconfirmed)

  

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#17. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Norfolk, US
          

From the way it looks (but I am not certain, of course) it seems to lack a DOF Preview button. I'm guessing this will be the digital version of an N75, more-so than an N80. But at $999 very nice still (but I'll still get the D100 instead hahahaha).

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kc80s Registered since 29th Jan 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 03:42 PM
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#9. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Toronto, CA
          

No, to me it looks like it's based on the F75 rather than the F80.
Look at the mode dial and you'll know.

  

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tflub Registered since 22nd Feb 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 08:51 PM
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#12. "RE: D70 announced today"
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I just mentioned that the D75 looks like it is based on the N80 body because it is black, has the red rubber at the hand grip and has rounded curves. At least in the U.S., the N75 is silver with black and had less rounded edges and I am not sure, but I don't think that it has the red rubber at the hand grip. Perhaps it is not based on either -- but I think that the materials that Nikon uses for the black bodies is nicer and has a more sturdy feel than the silver plastic.

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Karl Registered since 25th Sep 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 09:24 PM
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#14. "RE: D70 announced today"
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SE
          

In Europe the F75 is black.

It definetly looks like the D70 is based on the F75.

The D100 on the other hand is based on the F/N80 body, so it's more logic in that the D70 would be based on a "lesser" body than the D100.

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#21. "RE: D70 announced today"
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But this seems to have front command dial while F75 hasn't one.

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kc80s Registered since 29th Jan 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 04:11 PM
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#10. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Toronto, CA
          

The article was originally written in Chinese, not Japanese.

I'm still trying to access the site for the "original" version.

  

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kc80s Registered since 29th Jan 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 04:24 PM
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#11. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Toronto, CA
          

OK, just briefly read the original article.

First off, it was written on November 6, 2003.

The author was merely *speculating* the specs of a "D70", although he did sound like he knew the next dSLR from Nikon would be called "D70". Coincidental?

Draw your own conclusions.

  

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Karl Registered since 25th Sep 2002Wed 03-Dec-03 09:21 PM
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#13. "RE: D70 announced today"
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SE
          

AS far as I know, this article was written after it was known that Nikon had registered the name "D70". All the technicall details in the article are just speculations based on current Nikon and Canon line-up of cameras.

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camerabug99 Registered since 02nd Dec 2003Wed 03-Dec-03 09:52 PM
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#15. "Trademark"
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Pasadena, US
          

Nikon applied for a trademark on "D70" on August 8, 2003, so it has been public knowledge since that date. www.uspto.gov

The interesting thing is the lens. Suggests that it might be 17-55mm f/3.5-4 DX or something like that, to complement the higher cost 17-55mm f/2.8 DX.

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dkkruse Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Feb 2003Wed 03-Dec-03 11:09 PM
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#16. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Fairfax, US
          

By then, won't the D100's price have dropped to around that price? My guess is that by the release of the D70, they will announce the replacement of the D100...
Isn't speculation fun?

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#18. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Colton, US
          

D200 baby here we come! If the D70's based on the N75, the DSLR replacing the D100 should be based on the F100, right? Schweeeet!

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bobj Silver Member Awarded for his multiple written contributions the the community Resources Charter MemberThu 04-Dec-03 01:10 AM
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#19. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Sammamish, US
          

you know, we really need to stop thinkin terms of digital bodies being "based on" film bodies. As Nikon produces fewer new film bodies, they certainly will be producing digital bodies as things in themselves, not modified versions of something else. I mean, look at the new D2h for instance.

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Bruno C Registered since 27th Nov 2002Thu 04-Dec-03 12:32 PM
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#22. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Cincinnati, US
          

You are right of course,

since it would seem clear that most new development will be digital, they will stand on their own. I think that in this case, it was more a matter of lamenting the fact that there is no digital body yet that fills that niche between the D100 and the D1 series the way that the F100 bridges the gap betwenn the N80 and the F5. Personally, I certainly fit into that group, since for me sports would be a big reason for a digital body and I don't feel that the D100 (based on the N80, right) can do the job well enough and the D2H is too expensive right now.

Bring on the D200 (hopefully not based on the F100 but with the AF system of the D2H)!

Bruno C

  

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Jonathan Registered since 10th Feb 2003Thu 04-Dec-03 05:06 AM
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#20. "Finally!"
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Nashville, US
          

Now all the people who have been complaining in these forums that Canon was "beating" Nikon because of the digital Rebel can look forward to trading in their D1x's and D100s for D70's next spring.

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#23. "RE: Finally!"
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Salt Lake City, US
          

Eh?

Nikon puts out a photo and a no-specs announcement while Canon sells digital Rebels by the truckload and captures market share. The press release smacks more of a desperate attempt to hang onto customers than an answer to folks who have been wondering, "Where's Nikon?".

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Jonathan Registered since 10th Feb 2003Thu 04-Dec-03 03:22 PM
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#24. "RE: Finally!"
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Nashville, US
          

Not disagreeing with you.

I was making a different point, which was to poke gentle fun at people who care about market share. Why should I care whether Nikon or Canon sells more cameras? I find it amusing that people who own quite nice Nikons give a hoot whether Nikon can compete with Canon at the bottom end.

If Nikon put D70s in the stores tomorrow, would any of us really sell our D100s and trade down? If not, why do we care who has the cheaper DSLR?

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#31. "RE: Finally!"
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Mableton, US
          

Ah, but it does matter, because market share translates into more revenues, more revenues translate into more R&D and capital investment which hopefully leads to better products released ON TIME.

I agree though, this is just a knee jerk reaction from Nikon, who probably had the D70 in the works for a few months, but had to toss something out there to keep the guys without a significant investment in Nikon lenses and accessories from immediately jumping ship and buying the Digital Rebel.

I messed around with a Digital Rebel tonight, and while it didn't quite have the feel of my F80, it wasn't as cheap feeling as the film Rebels. It also seemed to lack some features I consider important, like flash compensation and an easy way to use the manual exposure mode. It belonged to one of my Sunday School teachers, and I was trying to show him how to decrease flash exposure and increase ambient exposure to help get rid of the "deer in headlights" effect of the flash firing at full power and completely blacking out the background. Unfortunately I wasn't able to do that because of the shortcomings I just listed.

Bart

  

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#29. "RE: Finally!"
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Victoria, CA
          

Aye. Poor, poor Nikon and poor, poor Nikonians!

The announcement of the D70 confirms (at least in my mind) that Nikon was caught with its pants down when the Digital Rebel stormed the market. It's taken months for them to even get a preliminary press release out... which leads me to suspect that they had almost nothing (or something very basic) in the works when Digital Rebel units were out on the streets.

In comparison to Nikon's dilly-dally method of product release, I was very impressed that the Digital Rebel was on the shelves en masse within weeks of the product announcement (with full specs), unlike Nikon's bait-and-see, 8-months to a year-later, no stock available production schedule.

I love Nikon but I really do hate how they treat their loyals!

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#30. "RE: Finally!"
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D70 = Digital Rebel rebadged??
Nikon are behind Canon in the digital race to the point-and-shoot market. imho Nikon would be smart to license these sub-standard cameras (read the Rebel reviews) from Canon. The D100 is a workhorse, and will give you years of enjoyment and the occasional frustration. And it's a Nikon.
Enjoy it.

  

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eheh Registered since 24th Nov 2003Thu 04-Dec-03 06:08 PM
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#25. "RE: D70 announced today"
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1 more picture from Chinese Forum.
http://www.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/130/13073/13073_1068267926.jpg

  

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#26. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Stratford, CA
          

I think that photo is a hoax... the script that "D70" is in is not the one Nikon uses nor the one in the photos on other websites (like DPreview)...

p.s. edited for a typo

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#27. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Tampere, FI
          

Yes I think so too. Official Nikon picture has front command dial.

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#28. "RE: D70 announced today"
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Vancouver, CA
          

I went there today and they replaced the photo with the 'proper' one.

Same as the one in Nikon's Japanese website:

http://www.cameraunion.net/digital/nikon/image/d70-front.jpg

Alex, Nikonian in Vancouver

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Len Shepherd Gold Member Nikonian since 09th Mar 2003Sat 13-Dec-03 08:53 PM
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#32. "RE: D70 UK launch price"
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Yorkshire, GB
          

Set at £800 including VAT - 12.5% lower than the Canon equivalent.

The Canon is already discounted 20% but the official price (excluding tax) is higher in the UK than USA.

I would speculate within 12 months of launch the D70 will be available for £500 - about 50% more than an F80 but with fewer camera controls than an F80.

"Affordable" DSLR's will then be in reach of many.
In some respects it is likely to outperform the original D1 - at 15% of the price.

Photography is a bit like archery. A technically better camera, lens or arrow may not hit the target as often as it could if the photographer or archer does not practice enough.

Len Shepherd

  

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