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JH Basic MemberSat 29-Jul-06 05:50 AM
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"Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"


Tampere, FI
          

This must be one of the all time favorite threads. Let's continue with part three now

Orginal discussion started as:

Looks like the long-rumoured D80 will be upon us very soon:
http://www.nikon-image.com/eng/index.htm

More power
More control
More versatile
More excitement
Next Nikon
New 10.2 megapixel D-SLR addition to the lineup
Integrating quality and affordability to meet the demands of passionate photo enthusiasts

On the basis that Sony have said the Alpha 100 sensor is not the same as the one found in the D200, I suspect we'll find it appearing here as well.



Previous threads are:
Part 2 - http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID86/16852.html

Part 1 (original) - http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID86/16831.html

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YoungAndDangerous Registered since 11th Sep 2004Sat 29-Jul-06 09:18 AM
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#1. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Sydney, AU
          

As I just posted my expereinces with the new Sony A100 this morning, on another thread. From a user expereinces, I think the A100 will not be a serious competitor with the new D80, even it meant the price on the D80 was higher and has less features.

http://www.nikonians.org/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=15111&forum=DCForumID14&omm=45&viewmode=threaded

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willie_cage Registered since 23rd Dec 2002Sat 29-Jul-06 02:56 PM
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#2. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Houston, US
          

I have a D200 that is less than one month old...so I will be
highly upset if the D80 is anywhere near the D200 in terms of quality, or capabilities.

This has happened to be several times before...
I bought the N70...three months later they quit making it.
I bought the F100...two months later the D100 hits the market.
I bought the D70...6 months later the D50 hits the market.

When I purchase a new camera, it is a sure sign that Nikon is about to come out with a better camera!

I hate it when that happens...


Cage

  

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fspeeder Registered since 06th Jan 2005Sun 30-Jul-06 12:55 AM
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#5. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Cage, you need buy the products quicker or wait longer then Timing is everything

  

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Cotswolds Chap Registered since 02nd Jan 2006Sun 30-Jul-06 06:12 AM
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#7. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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>Cage, you need buy the products quicker or wait longer then
> Timing is everything

or at least warn us all first!

I think that the D200 will still have lots of advantages - enjoy it, it is like a sportscar, there may be a new model nearly as fast, but the one you have got is still as amazing as when you bought it...

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#6. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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GW
          

I understand that. I am going to attack it by not buying anymore Nikon or other maker products which seem to be a little behind in someway when I buy it. Like the D70s was with its 6.1 sensor. Never really bothered me, because everyone "knew" that the 6.1 was good enough. It still is, but not enough people believed that so now the D80 will have a 10.2 for the same price.

I learned a lot in the last several years since I went from 35mm SLR to relatively hi-quality digital P&S, to the D70s. Since things change so quickly and will continue to do so, I don't buy too deeply into any one brand. A minimum number of lenses for example, use free processing software (gimp or the old RSE) until things stabilize.

It's a secondary hobby for me, I could not afford the salary cut to be a pro, and I prefer to spend my $$$$ on my primary hobby which gives tangible, measurable, objective results/benefits, in addition to pleasure.

I am sure that I will be an exception here, but I am reducing my spending on new photography equipment. This is a train I ain't riding.

  

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#14. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Queen Creek, US
          

This is an attitude I simply cannot understand. Nikon announces a new model and that's a bad thing?

As has been mentioned before, and doubtless will be again, in the technology arena there will always be new announcements, and they will almost always represent improvements over the previous models.

I do feel a slight pang, wondering if the new D80 will be better than the D200 in any way. Looking at these pictures, and the controls, I'm glad I have my D200. I like the buttons it has and the controls and whatnot way, way better. And with the weathersealing and solid metal-framed construction, it feels good and solid and reliable. I've tried the D50 and D70 before and I just can't get excited by them now that I'm used to the D200.

I think this new D80 will raise the bar against Canon, and be a great competitor for the 350D and even the 30D. It may be that some folks who would have bought a D200 over the D70 will buy the D80 instead, but unless it simply has some outstanding and surprising, shocking even, capabilities, I think I'd still be a D200 man.

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#11. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Dont worry, man. I cant see them making the D80 a competitor to the D200. if the supposed preproduction photos I've seen (on another site) are realistic, it lacks all of the easy control of functions, meaning you have to dig through menus to make things work (focus controls, etc). The D200 is an awesome camera, and even with a larger LCD on the D80, I am glad I bought the D200. It feels way more solid than the D70s, and handles better too with the MBD200.

New stuff will alwys come out. Cherish the gear you've got, and dont worry what comes out after it, or you'll go mental. that, or you'll never buy another piece of kit, perpetually waiting for the "better next model".

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#32. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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US
          

>I have a D200 that is less than one month old...so I will be
>highly upset if the D80 is anywhere near the D200 in terms
>of quality, or capabilities.
>
>This has happened to be several times before...
>I bought the N70...three months later they quit making it.
>I bought the F100...two months later the D100 hits the
>market.
>I bought the D70...6 months later the D50 hits the market.
>
>When I purchase a new camera, it is a sure sign that Nikon
>is about to come out with a better camera!
>
>I hate it when that happens...

You are kidding right? So you bought an N70 at the end of its production life, did that make it any less capable? NO....in fact the N70 had many advantages over the newer camera, like metering with manual focus lenses....I had one, still do, and I didnt feel ANY desire to upgrade to a N80.

You bought an amazing film camera, again, I have one....and are upset a D100 came out? 2 months later? a digital camera vs. a film camera?

then you are upset a d50 came out after the d70? The d50 has lower noise than a d70, but there are many features not on that camera? I could NEVER work well with a d50, and if you had an f100, then you wouldnt want to either...I love my D2x...the D2Xs came out and I am not upset, and when the D3x comes out I wont be upset, it happens, it will happen no matter what.....

Great for Nikon always improving on their products.


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#3. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Memphis, US
          

The biggest feature I'm looking forward too is AI & AIS support (I've been using my Olympus E-1 with my older Nikon Glass). If the photos ared real then Ken Rockwell is wrong (imagine that) when he states, "Works fine with old manual focus AI and AI-s lenses.". The photo obviously lacks an AI ring, which would be required for legacy lens support.

  

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#13. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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I decided to get a D200 becuase I didn't want just more pixels, I wanted a bigger buffer so I did have to worry about having the camera pause after 4 raw images. A higher fps and better auto focus, can go long way when shooting sports. I also have 6 AIS lenses that I will never sell. So a few hundred dollars more is worth it to me for those features. If I wanted a second improved D70, I would of waited for the D80.

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#4. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Knoxville, US
          

I read through a lot of those threads and I'm just waiting for the actual announcement. To be honest, as a D50 owner I hope it takes SD memory as is theorized. I know that all the D70 people would be upset (understandably so) but we D50 people will be thrilled to keep our memory. I want to upgrade but a D70s doesn't make sense and I'm not sure about the jump to D200 yet. I'm hoping this is right down the middle.

  

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#8. "Here in Switzerland"
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CH
          

Nikon rep visited my dealer. The name of the camera is D80, it takes SD cards not CF, recommended price is CHF 1'599 body only (approx. EUR 1'030 - so American price should be USD 999 I think and European EUR 999). D50 production will be stopped along with D80 start (the same production line will be used), D70s is going to stay for a while as the entry-level camera at reduced price of CHF 1'199 for kit with 18-70.

As for SD cards. SanDisk Extreme III 1GB SD card was the fastest card in the market before Extreme IV introduction. In fact SD becomes the standard removable media format - most new notebooks have an SD slot instead of floppy drive. I will not be surprised if even D3 will work with SD instead of "bulky" CF.

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#9. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Washington, US
          

If it turns out that the D80 only uses SD memory like that sales rep says, then that could leave the door wide open for a "D90" that uses CF memory. Could Nikon have a surprise announcement on August 11 kind of like when they announced the D50 & D70S together? I only say this because they will really need a CF consumer/enthusiast level camera for all of those with D70's who want to either move up or just need to replace their cameras. Otherwise, they risk losing those owners to competitors when it comes time to replace or upgrade, so that they can use their memory cards. Now, for someone like me, who only owns a single 512 MB CF card for my P&S Canon, it's not a real big factor other than a possible concern when it comes time to replace the D80. IMO it would be better if they just used one format for all their DSLR's, but that would be to easy.

Mike

  

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#10. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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woodridge, US
          

I guess I am confused at so much focus on the type of memory this *NEW* camera will take. I have plenty of old CF cards from my old point and shoot days that I cannot use in my newer cameras. And if it is as many have said, that an older body still performs well, why not keep some CF cards, sell some of them and purchase some newer technology for the future. Certainly you would need to buy some additional cards to use both cameras? At least I know htat I carry my D50 and a PS HP R707 and I take more pictures with both of them so I had to buy more memory cards. I am also surprised that no one has mentioned that you can dump all your old CF cards and buy a SD to CF adapter and then use all SD cards.

I feel the same way that many others do. I have a 48mb CF card that I happily paid $399.00 for years ago, and I even have Sd cards of 256mb that I paid more for than the 1gb ones I bought a few weeks ago and now those 1gb cards are $10.00 less as well. That is how it is with technology, wait a minute and it gets better, cheaper, faster and bigger.

I for one am looking forward to the D80 so i can have a second body that is lighter than the D200.

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#12. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Livermore, CA, US
          


IMO memory format is a non-issue.

CF is bulkier and has a physically more fragile interface than SD. The only reason anybody would choose CF over SD is because they have a stack of CF cards laying around. Thing is, the value of any stack of memory cards is shrinking every day.

When I was considering an entry-level DSLR, the SD cards in the D50 almost killed the deal. I decided to look past this "shortcoming" because I really hated the 350D.

In hindsight, I'm glad I decided to compromise on this issue. A 1G SD card costs less than $30. This means that a $100 investment in new memory cards will get you >500 raw exposures or 10K jpegs.

Anyone concerned that their memory cards will become obsolete probably shouldn't ever buy any kind of memory format whatsoever. Or go find an old floppy-disk digital camera (I used to have one), pull that stack of floppys out of the closet, and lament about the days when CF took over.

If foresight, I think it would be gutsy but worthwhile for Nikon to try to migrate its users to SD. I also think the real reason the "D80" takes SD and not CF is because it's a actually photochopped picture of a D50

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#16. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Basingstoke, GB
          

The only reason anybody would choose CF over SD is
>because they have a stack of CF cards laying around.

The reason I prefer CF is that I can actually feel them in my pocket and they're a decent size. I wouldn't want to carry around loads of SD cards for paid jobs as I'd constantly be losing the damn things. They're just too small.

With smaller bodies they may save space, but with larger ones I see no need to dump CF.

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#15. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Rotterdam, NL
          

If the D80 has no CF but SD....:

The majority that will very probably buy new cards anyway, as a 10.2 Mp camera, compared to a 6.3 Mp camera, produces much bigger files, so you really want to have extra capacity, without changing every 100 shots. I think most people that upgraded from the D70 to the D200 bought new cards.

The new cards are very likely to be faster then those older ones and it doesn't hurt to buy a new card after, let's say, 2 years of use. It just might keep you from having a faulty card....

Just sell, now you can. It sold my 2 cards when I upgraded within 2 weeks. No pain.

And, btw, I like the bigger format of the CF cards, as i think SD just is to small to handle when you are in a rush. With Sd I have to be very careful not to drop them. I really hope CF will be here to stay, or any other card that has the same format.

If SD/FC is this camera's biggest problem, then the camera will be a great camera...!

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#17. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Colorado Springs, US
          

I think that memory card format DOES impact purchase decision, to a certain extent.

IF D80 has SD, then it would be logical to assume that it is intended as an upgrade path from the D50.

On the other hand, having CF would put this camera into the "upgrade from D70" camp, and possibly the "backup to D200" camp. It is already difficult enough to carry a backup DSLR when the batteries are different. I'd certainly never consider a camera with a different memory card form factor as a back-up! Obviously, the "smart" move would be to offer both types of memory slot in the same camera. D50 and D70 users would then have anothe reason to consider purchase.

-Jason

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#18. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Barrington, US
          

I agree. I would speculate D80 will use EN-EL3e though.

  

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#19. "SD/CF Issue"
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Sydney, AU
          

I agree with you Jason, However why Nikon has choosen to go SD on the D50, and possible on the D80 in someway alienate loyal users from buying other models (say, a D80 user wants to upgrade to a D200, or vice vesa). It certainly becomes another restriction. So, yes, if they are targeting users from one end, D50 to D80 (SD), and D70 to D200 (CF)... It does leave a gap for the future... unless Nikon is planning to eventually support SD in the future, and the D200 replacement will be SD as well.

For the now, I'm guessing, like what Canon was done with the P&S, is place the SD support as consumer models and CF models as semi/prosumer range. But I can't really see any point in this, as it would cost Nikon more in the long run. (I am also believing Nikon requires to pay royalities for the SD support - to another competitor Panasonic).


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#20. "RE: SD/CF Issue"
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Barrington, US
          

I think SD simply fits the compact design better.

I have D200 already but if I did not, looking for a body that goes with my D2X, I would not even think about getting a body that uses SD. I have 14 gig memory in CF, why would I spend another $200-300 in memory? With that $200-300 (minimum for a 10mp body) I would not have saved much compared to purchasing a D200.

Big deal to me.

  

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#23. "RE: SD/CF Issue"
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Livermore, CA, US
          

>
>I have D200 already but if I did not, looking for a body
>that goes with my D2X, I would not even think about getting
>a body that uses SD. I have 14 gig memory in CF, why would I
>spend another $200-300 in memory? With that $200-300
>(minimum for a 10mp body) I would not have saved much
>compared to purchasing a D200.
>
>Big deal to me.

Yes, absolutely.

But by the time you can actually get a "D80" that $200 memory investment will be <$100, and you may decide to upgrade anyway to get faster memory.

Certainly if you carry 2 bodies (D2X + backup) then you'd like them both to use the same memory format, and for this situation I'm sure Nikon would be happy for you to choose the D200. I sure their marketing department doesn't see that as a problem.

Really I still believe that the reason the D80 will take SD is because the pictures circulating are a photoshopped D50, and I doubt that any of this speculation is reality-based. But, if the D80 does take SD and not CF, I doubt that it's a bad technical or marketing decision on Nikon's part.

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fspeeder Registered since 06th Jan 2005Mon 31-Jul-06 08:49 PM
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#24. "RE: SD/CF Issue"
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Barrington, US
          

Nah, the extreme IIIs are fast enough for the current DSLR bodies. Nikon marketing is clearly not defining this D80 as D200 D2X users' back-up. They figure D70 users do not have adequate CF memories for 10mp 4.5 fps cameras anyway so using SD is not an issue.

  

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#29. "RE: SD/CF Issue"
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Colorado Springs, US
          

As to why Nikon chose SD for the D50-- it's all about target audience. I have several friends who recently purchased a D50-- all of them got it to "upgrade" from a point and shoot digital. Most of them had P&S cameras that already used SD cards. Therefore, the D50 was a good value to them-- allowing them to use a single type of memory in both their new DSLR and their point and shoot model.


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gomez1018 Registered since 10th Mar 2006Mon 31-Jul-06 10:45 PM
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#25. "RE:"
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this may have been brought up already, but there are so many posts i forgot what i have read. I think the reason they chose sd is to capture the market that is currently point and shoots as well as the market that are using DVF and want to upgrade to a dslr. A d200 would be to much for them and liek everyone is pointing out would have to buy new media. Teh D80 would fit that niche for them. The only disadvantage is teh upgrade from there.

Maybe what i said doesnt make sense but that is what i get out of it.

MAtt

  

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opticspatents Registered since 05th Jul 2006Mon 31-Jul-06 03:04 PM
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#21. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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I don't know about you, but I have about $2k in glass and (though I paid more for it at the time) about $150 in CF cards. I'm not changing to a competitor's camera over memory format shifts.

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#27. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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AW
          

I had an email exchange with the guys at Imaging Resource when the Sony A100 was announced. They advised Nikon has more than one DSLR announcement before year's end.

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#34. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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San Francisco, US
          

Why not have a hybrid CF/SD slot in every DSLR?

I would be happy to have the option, as my P+S's use SD (they're all tiny), and my D200 uses CF.

Couldn't there be an adapter that would allow SD's to be used in a CF slot?

That's my ideal as long as throughput isn't compromised.

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#31. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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Cape Town, ZA
          

Just heard from a supplier that Nikon is taking orders with view to ship on release.

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#36. "RE: Here in Switzerland"
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> recommended price is CHF 1'599
>body only (approx. EUR 1'030 - so American price should be
>USD 999 I think and European EUR 999).

Why would the US$ price be the same as the Euro price, unless you are including VAT? The exchange rate is about 1.26 meaning that EUR1,030 is worth about US$1,300. Having said that I have heard that the price in the US will be about $899 in which case the basic price in Euros would be about EUR800 + VAT.

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#22. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Portland, US
          

I wish the D200 had used SD instead of CF. All of my CF were 1GB when I upgraded to the D200 so I ended up replacing my media anyway. SD is less expensive than CF so I could have actually saved money with the switch in media type had there been a switch.

  

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#26. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Richmond, US
          

All of us will be on SD media sooner or later, even the MF guys. The CF packaging just isn't what the manufacturers need, and with memory density increasing almost hourly, we will eventually get to the point that 24gb will fit on the micro-sized SD format (or whatever). I don't want them to change too quickly, but really, we've been on CF for quite some time now. My 2000 digital camera used CF, and I expect I'll still be using it for another couple of years.

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#28. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Richmond, US
          

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Nikon can do more than one thing at a time. I'm guessing that there will either be at D50s, or that both the D70s and the D50 will come down in price at the same time that the new camera is launched. Or both.

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#30. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Well I've been saying it all along. They wouldn't kill off the D70s. They needed something between the D200 and the D70s. So why kill off the D70s and keep the D50? Of course the new dslr will bring the cost of the D70s down. Probably to the D50 price; $579/699.

If they do annouce a new camera by year's end, I doubt it'll be another Imaging (prosumer) model. They'll add to the pro line or kill off one, like the D2Hs. Who knows, it might be something in a D3 family.

  

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#33. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Evanston, US
          

the move to SD cards, per se, is not a concern to me. what is a concern is the "compact" body that SD allows or necessitates. from my stops to local camera stores, i've found the D50 too small for a comfortable grip in my hands. the D70s is about as small as i want. mind you, i'm coming from a minolta maxxum 7xi, which is a beast compared to these modern DSLRs (except for pro models far beyond my price range).

cheers,
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nelsong Registered since 14th Apr 2006Wed 02-Aug-06 07:35 PM
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#35. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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DO
          

Well, I just sold my D70 for 800 dollars; I just hope that the new camera is as good as it was, got me so many great pictures in almost 2 years of usage.

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#37. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Roswell, US
          

Wow. How'd you pull that off? You must've sold a lens or a big CF card with it.

Ben

  

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nelsong Registered since 14th Apr 2006Fri 04-Aug-06 03:46 AM
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#40. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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DO
          

I sold it with the kit 18-70 and a 2GB Kingston CF. It's really hard finding used cameras here, you can buy one from KEH, Amazon or Ebay but you have to be prepared to leave customs little over 65% of the price you payed, basically you'd be paying as much as a new D70s (US$1300) from our local Nikon dealer.

So I guess the girl that bought it got a pretty good deal from me.


  

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#41. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Sydney, AU
          

True, I find that D50 and most newer DSLR are too small and hard to grip. The D70 was okay, but the handle was also a tad small, which I have left a number of impressions on both units I owned. I think the D200 is a great size, and the rubber/handle is superb.

As for the SD media, that too is too small - and easy to loose. I perfer the CF media, on assigment I carry a number of cards - 10 to 15GBs worth, and I swap them frequently (I perfer to use 1-2GB size cards over 4GB, as a precaution).

Cheers
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#38. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Bethlehem, US
          

I love the speculation -- I'm a longtime Mac user, and we're used to this kind of fun...

How realistic is the notion that they will be putting AI/AI-s metering capability on this camera? I shoot a D70 (which I love, by the way) and the one thing I really miss is being able to use my Series E 100 f2.8 and 75-150 f3.5 -- two great lenses that worked well on my N8008s, but won't meter on my D70.

Do you think Nikon will do this on a new camera aimed at consumer/ prosumers? And is there any chance a firmware upgrade for the D70 would ever make this possible on my camera? (a guy can dream, can't he?)

Looking forward to the end of the coundown.

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#39. "RE: Is this the D80 ? - Part 3"
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Tucson, US
          

Welcome fellow Mac user and rumor watcher!

Yes, this does remind of the rumor mongering that you get running up to a MacWorld, or next week's World Wide Developer's Conference (and the famous "Stevenotes".

What strikes me about all the rumors is if you combine them all together, you get one hell of a camera!

My two cents: the "ticklers" on Nikon's website makes be believe this model may be labeled D90, not D80 (I think the D80 pictures are fake), and will be more than a simple D70 update.

But I love the spectulation, and I can guarantee this: Some of it is right!

At least for Mac users, the PowerMac replacement speculation ends on Monday...

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