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I was afraid of this - the sharks are in the goldfish bowl.

Mark V

Los Angeles, US
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Mark V Registered since 18th Jun 2004
Thu 06-Mar-08 05:38 AM | edited Thu 06-Mar-08 06:11 AM by Mark V

This may be news to some of you but...The Camera business has a long history of scams, crooks, and cheats. Some of these guys are second generation pros. (Both as photographers and crooks.) They learned from their daddys, like my daddy taught me to watch out for them. (One doesn't stay innocent for long growing up just outside of NY. Especially if used photographic equipment is involved.)

I have bought and sold a number of items here, but nothing in the last year. Nobody ever left feed back for me and I never left it for them - it wasn't needed. It's where photographers sold to other photographers. The crooks like places like this. They are NOT Nikonians. At least not in spirit. Big deal. XXXX who will probably come back as YYYY may be reading this and getting a good laugh out of it. A $25 membership lets the Sharks in with the Goldfish. Cheap at twice the price.

Nikonians is no longer a small internet town where everybody knows everybody else and we don't steal from one another. From what I have been reading here tonight you already know this. Moral outrage will get you no place. The shock in the eyes of the lamb means nothing to the lion.

Now the question is whats to be done about it. A serious rating system? The problem is the most honest of us. The guy who sells a lens or two a year will not have enough feed back. The dealers will have pleanty. (I'm sure there are some legitmite dealers here, if not, they will be. Cheaper then E-bay.)

Posting is one form of protection. Somebody who posts a lot will have something to loose - their reputation. But even this has holes. I bought and sold some expensive items from honest Nikonians who don't post.









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