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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Thu 05-Nov-09 10:56 PM
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"Why no Capure NX specific forum?"


Tacoma, US
          

Why isn't there a forum here for Capture NX specifically? I would think there are enough users, issues and need for guidance that it would be pretty busy?

I find Capture NX2 to be best for me for post-processing, but would like to find out more ways to use it's features. In addition, I wish there were ar few plug-in's to make it more powerful. Nik has Color Efex, I'd like to seem them make Capture NX compatible versions of Dfine and Sharpener.

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TiggerGTO Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006Fri 06-Nov-09 10:41 AM
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#1. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Apex, US
          

NX2 seems to be one of the most talked about pieces of software on this Digital Postprocessing & Workflow forum, but I don't think it generates enough traffic to warrant a whole section to itself. Also, on other communities I've participated in (completely different subject matter), if the forum sections get broken up too finely, it can actually have a negative affect on the traffic that you are trying to help. To many forums make it too hard to find stuff, and even though it's only a click or two away, mentally, it's a whole 'nuther place you gotta go into to check out. I also like keeping up with other software. I use PhotoMechanic and NX2 almost exclusively, but I'm always looking for better results and/or easier ways to get the results I want.

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Aubrey Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Jun 2007Mon 16-Nov-09 12:41 AM
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#2. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Limassol, CY
          

I agree!
It would save trawling through this forum.
One might also find that users of NX2 would be more willing to reply to peers using this software and not having to trawl through lots of emails... can it be given a try? If there is not sufficient traffic, then we could shut it down.

Thanks,
Aubrey.

  

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d700man Registered since 06th Nov 2009Mon 16-Nov-09 12:44 PM
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#3. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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One more for an NX2 specific forum!!

DG

  

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Robp Gold Member Nikonian since 23rd Oct 2009Mon 16-Nov-09 02:32 PM
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#4. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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I would also appreciate an NX2-specific forum. I've been trawling this site for information and finding lots of ideas that I hadn't even considered. It is nice to have some knowledgeable users around and it would be nice to have their thoughts consolidated into a more accessible format.

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drjh68 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Oct 2003Mon 16-Nov-09 04:16 PM
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#5. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Woodbridge, Suffolk, GB
          

I too would like to see an NX2 specific forum. There is so much of great value to master in it, so much to discuss, and so many enthusiastic users, that it would help to concentrate the mind and possibly encourage more comment and sharing of experience. Doubtless there will be an NX3 etc. too. If it proved insufficiently supported, I assume that it would not be a problem to re-integrate it into the original forum.

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ralphdaily Silver Member Nikonian since 01st May 2008Mon 16-Nov-09 08:27 PM
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#6. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Birmingham, US
          

There is already an excellent NX forum on flickr and I think Nikonians provides something different with a general purpose post processing forum. There isn't enough traffic here to justify individual forums for different software solutions. Fine as it is.

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#7. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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St. Louis, US
          

I agree with the idea of a new forum. It seems to me, traffic on NX topics may increase with a specific Capture NX forum. As mentioned above, like minded people tend to be more verbal when among peers.
That said, I fear it would start a political push to have a forum for each software solution. That could be a blessing or a curse. Hmmm

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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Mon 16-Nov-09 10:20 PM
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#8. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Tacoma, US
          

Since this is a Nikon product, and is fairly high on the complexity scale, I think a forum is justified. Transfer, View, and Camera Control are not as intricate when it somes to producing iimages, but maybe a combined forum for all other Nikon software might make sense.

Going to another location (flickr) to keep track of what's going on with Capture NX doesn't make sense to me and is just one more placve I need to try to keep track of and this dilutes the value of Nikonian membership.

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Gray Fox Basic MemberMon 16-Nov-09 10:34 PM
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#9. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Cape Coral, US
          

Count me in as preferring a specific NX forum.

Will

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jmmcg9 Silver Member Charter MemberTue 17-Nov-09 12:55 AM
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#10. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Austin, US
          

Add my vote for a Capture NX2 forum!
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hondona Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Dec 2008Tue 17-Nov-09 01:19 AM
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#11. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Southern Pines, US
          

I would like to see an NX forum as well.

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Aubrey Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Jun 2007Tue 17-Nov-09 11:23 AM
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#12. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Limassol, CY
          

If we do get our wish, then we will have to actively contribute. I hope that all who have said yes would be willing to do so.

Thanks,
Aubrey.

  

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#13. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Ottawa, CA
          

Definitely would love one.

  

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seanconnery Registered since 03rd May 2007Tue 17-Nov-09 02:07 PM
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#14. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Blaine, US
          

Yup. me too.

  

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cliddell Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Oct 2006Tue 17-Nov-09 04:08 PM
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#15. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Pietermaritzburg, ZA
          

Nikonians has seperate Nikon lense and 3rd party lense forums and I believe that there should also be a Nikon Software forum apart from a 3rd party forum.

I just get confused when folk want to convert from NEF to TIFF to PSD? etc. and so on and save each format along the way not to mention layers and sidecars etc. My Nikon workflow seems so simple in comparison but of course there is lots to learn about the finer points in editing NEF files.

In summary add my vote for a seperate forum!

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TiggerGTO Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006Wed 18-Nov-09 12:43 AM
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#18. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Apex, US
          

> Going to another location (flickr) to keep track of what's going on
> with Capture NX doesn't make sense to me and is just one more placve
> I need to try to keep track of and this dilutes the value of
> Nikonian membership.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand the desire to have a separate section for NX2 that will primarily serve to isolate it. As I said previously, NX2 is probably talked about more on Nikonians than any other software, but it doesn't generate huge volumes of traffic. And as you pointed out above, you dislike going to another location to keep track of what's going on with Capture NX2 and it dilutes value, in this case the value of the discussion about post-processing and software. I agree that going to a different section of Nikonians is not as drastic as going to a completely different site, but seriously, how hard is it to find and follow the NX2 threads in the "Digital postprocessing & workflow" section?

Danny
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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Wed 18-Nov-09 01:58 AM
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#19. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Wed 18-Nov-09 02:01 AM by mklass

Tacoma, US
          

I think a section that focuses on Capture NX will do far more to enhance our understanding of the software, give us a chance to learn how to use it best, and support its continued enhancement and development. In this Photoshop centric world, I think Capture NX deserves a place in the Nikonians community to itself where we can maximize the advantages.

I don't get much value out of reading posts regarding workflow with Photoshop/Lightroom/Aperture, when it is not relevant to what I am doing with Nikon software. There are plenty of other locations and avenues to learn how to no something in those apps, I don't know of a better location where a person should be able to learning how to get the most our of Nikon software than here.

Actually, I am disappointed that Nikon or Nik don't provide a good support forum for Capture NX. Sometimes it makes me wonder how committed they are to the product. I had hoped that Nikon's investment in Nik would have brought more to the table, but aside from Color FX, what have NX uses got?

I'm glad to see that a fair number of other people would like to see this forum, too. (And it won't remove the ability for the users of other apps to discuss their needs as well.)

Mick
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BjornHa Registered since 04th Mar 2009Wed 18-Nov-09 05:41 AM
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#20. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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NO
          

I vote for a seperate forum.

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#22. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Englewood, US
          

>I think a section that focuses on Capture NX will do far more
>to enhance our understanding of the software, give us a chance
>to learn how to use it best, and support its continued
>enhancement and development. In this Photoshop centric world,
>I think Capture NX deserves a place in the Nikonians community
>to itself where we can maximize the advantages.

Making a separate forum is not going to magically fill it with posts; there
are a limited number of people posting about CaptureNX, and a limited
although larger group posting about Photoshop-centric issues. It will be
just one more set of point and clicks to have to navigate through.
I am for leaving this forum as is, for all digital processing and workflow issues.

>I don't get much value out of reading posts regarding workflow
>with Photoshop/Lightroom/Aperture, when it is not relevant to
>what I am doing with Nikon software.

On the other hand, I occasionally learn something from those discussions
that I can "translate" and apply in CaptureNX. And, nobody is forcing me
to read anything; it's easy to look for "NX" in message headers and ignore
the other posts if I'm not in a "photoshop-centric" mood.

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#105. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

I would consider a separarte NX forum as an attractive benefit of membership. I'm new here to the site and I am looking at the benefits of this group. There are many but I came here specifically for information about the D300S and Nikon NX2. Being relatively new to digital after a couple of years with a D80 and 40+ years with film Nikons, I'm lovin this group. But I would love it more with an NX Forum. I'll even kick off a question. "Why is it so inconvenient to invert negative images to positives?"
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TiggerGTO Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006Wed 18-Nov-09 11:53 PM
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#24. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 19
Wed 18-Nov-09 11:57 PM by TiggerGTO

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> Actually, I am disappointed that Nikon or Nik don't provide a good
> support forum for Capture NX. Sometimes it makes me wonder how
> committed they are to the product. I had hoped that Nikon's
> investment in Nik would have brought more to the table, but aside
> from Color FX, what have NX uses got?

I completely agree with you about Nik's and Nikon's support and apparent commitment (or lack thereof). I really like NX2, and it in combination with PhotoMechanic is about 95% of my workflow. I recently got Nik's Color Efex Pro and really like it. I wish the other major titles like Dfine, Sharpener Pro and Silver Efex Pro would be released as NX2 plug-ins too.

But more than that, I wish that NX2's support will be significantly improved. I reported a couple different problems via Nikon's support site. I run on 64-bit Vista and even though I don't think my problems are related to the platform, they flat out refuse to investigate them.

But most important, I really hope that Nik and Nikon do something to make NX2 (or future versions) easier to use in combination with other software to enable a more complete workflow. NX2's browser is a pain as far as I'm concerned, and I really don't care much for View NX. If it wasn't for how well PhotoMechanic works with NX2, I would have abandoned NX2 a long time ago.

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Beemer2 Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Dec 2006Wed 18-Nov-09 11:49 AM
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#21. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 18


Scotland, GB
          

>> Going to another location (flickr) to keep track of
>what's going on
>> with Capture NX doesn't make sense to me and is just one
>more placve
>> I need to try to keep track of and this dilutes the value
>of
>> Nikonian membership.
>
>I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand the
>desire to have a separate section for NX2 that will primarily
>serve to isolate it. As I said previously, NX2 is probably
>talked about more on Nikonians than any other software, but it
>doesn't generate huge volumes of traffic. And as you pointed
>out above, you dislike going to another location to keep track
>of what's going on with Capture NX2 and it dilutes value, in
>this case the value of the discussion about post-processing
>and software. I agree that going to a different section of
>Nikonians is not as drastic as going to a completely different
>site, but seriously, how hard is it to find and follow the NX2
>threads in the "Digital postprocessing &
>workflow" section?
>
>Danny
>>size="2"]A Nikonian in North Carolina

Danny,

I agree with you in that a separate group is neither essential or desirable for the majority of readers. Folks who use multiple processing software, e.g. NX2 and PS4 and LR2 (for what ever personal reason) would have to jump around groups.

It is always valuable to read about alternative software as otherwise we would never learn if anything better is available.

Those that are intent on having a separate group might be interested to read the following...

http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/free/NikonCaptureNX2/index.html

regards,

Ian

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PhotoJim_60 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Aug 2008Wed 18-Nov-09 02:16 PM
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#23. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 18


Burke, US
          

As we can see in this thread, our folks are passionate about using NX2. I suspect that all of us use the forum in many ways to continue to feed our quest for knowledge. For my vote, whether there is a separate section for NX2 or not, I see where Danny is coming from, and I will continue to find and use any posts at any site that might shed light on ways to improve my NX2 skills. Granted I am retire and have more time to look for posts.
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ColColt Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Aug 2008Sun 22-Nov-09 01:28 AM
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#30. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 8


Knoxville, US
          


>
>Going to another location (flickr) to keep track of what's
>going on with Capture NX doesn't make sense to me and is just
>one more placve I need to try to keep track of and this
>dilutes the value of Nikonian membership.
>
>Mick

Well said, Mick, and my feelings exactly. If one feels comfortable going other places and wants to go there, let them go.


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rhelliott626 Registered since 18th Jun 2008Tue 17-Nov-09 04:41 PM
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#16. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Tue 17-Nov-09 04:45 PM by rhelliott626

SONORA, US
          

I second a forum for NX1, NX 2. It appears that there are forums that don't see much posting or useage, I would think that some of these could be eliminated and the space used for more productive use. You look at this forum now and it's all over the place. A menber ask about a problem with Nx2 and right in the middle of tread, its hijacked to Adobe products and how it could solve the problem. The basic question never seems to get a clear answer. Throw in the add-ons and it the treads get even more muddy. Just my two cents worth.

  

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#17. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 16


Port Deposit, US
          

I would certainly use it so I vote yes.

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arthur74493 Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Aug 2004Thu 19-Nov-09 10:59 AM
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#25. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Zemst, BE
          

I vote yes. It is a very good idea.

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rockrey Registered since 03rd Jul 2007Thu 19-Nov-09 11:10 AM
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#26. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Columbia, US
          

Yes, it would be nice to have a specific forum for Capture NX. Hope to see more plug ins for NX too.

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smb_ohio Registered since 18th Mar 2006Fri 20-Nov-09 06:36 PM
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#27. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Canton, US
          

Though I am not an NX user, I do see the merit in having a separate forum because NX users do tend to be a close-knit and passionate bunch. That isn't a criticism, but I think it's a valid observation.

I think it would be EQUALLY valid to set up a separate forum for users of Adobe products (Photoshop, Lightroom, Elements) since there are a large number of Nikonians who are partial to these as well.

A third forum could be created as a catch-all for all other third party software (NiK, Alien Skin, Noise Ninja, etc).

As a forum user, I see a great advantage to the above. There would be less confusion and it would spur more useful discussion about each program without the inevitable "mine is better than yours" kinds of comparisons that happen in the current forum. Having just one forum for post-processing seems a bit limiting since post-processing is a large part of what we do with our cameras. There are different forums for different camera bodies, why not also for the different software we use?

Just my thoughts.

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crenprit Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Oct 2005Fri 20-Nov-09 11:07 PM
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#28. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Birmingham, US
          

I too would like a specific forum for NX. NX is my favorite photo editor, however, I sometimes wonder how relevant it is to the world of advance photographers. Many of the suggestions listed in this thread for improvements would make it more relevant.

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patriot1123 Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Jan 2006Sun 22-Nov-09 01:08 AM
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#29. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Scottsdale, US
          

I vote for a separate forum.

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neversink Registered since 30th Nov 2009Thu 31-Dec-09 11:41 PM
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#31. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          


I don't understand why there seems to be opposition to an NX2 forum. I would love to see one... It appears the users want it. Let us just have one.... We can figure out how to move from topic to topic and forum to forum.... We are not morons... After all, we operate complex photography equipment....

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robsb Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his expertise in CNX2 and his always amicable and continuous efforts to help members Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 23rd Aug 2006Fri 01-Jan-10 05:09 AM
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#32. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


San Jose, US
          

I had suggested to JRP and Bo a long time ago that there should be a Nikon software centric forum, but did not get a response. If we can believe the unscientific poll at the top of this forum, Nikonians 2to 1 use NX2 more than any other Post Processing Tool. Maybe a better number could be had by just tallying what people list in their profile. While I also use other SW tools, like Photoshop, there are many places where you can get info and training for that third party tool, and it is much more comprehensive than you will find here. After all this site is called Nikonians because we like everything Nikon, not Adobeians. Because support and training for NX2 is nowhere near as extensive as Adobe products, it makes sense for Nikonians to focus on it. We have Dr J, who has published books and made tutorials on NX2, and I think it would be good to explore Capture Pro, Transfer, View NX and Capture NX with supported NIK filters in one forum. I am sure it would be well attended. It could include 3rd party tools that work with NX2 like Photo Mechanic, but it would primarily focus on how to use NX2 to its fullest. Too many people don't understand just how powerful it is, and don't realize what you can accomplish with the tool set. I think it is time to step out and do this right.

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billp545 Registered since 19th Oct 2008Fri 01-Jan-10 02:58 PM
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#33. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 32


Buffalo, US
          

There should ABSOLUTELY be an exclusive Capture NX-specific forum. I would like to see it so I could totally ignore it when I am looking for information on Lightroom, or Elements, etc.

I nearly left Nikonians because of the occasional smugness of a few Nikon software users, but then quality of every other aspect of Nikonians is so high, and valuable, I won't consider leaving.

So yes, let there be a Capture NX-specific forum--something that should have been done long ago.

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smb_ohio Registered since 18th Mar 2006Fri 01-Jan-10 04:32 PM
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#35. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 33


Canton, US
          

Yes, have a separate forum for NX users so the rest of us can discuss the tools that the vast majority of the photographic world uses without the inevitable posts about how NX is the only program that can read NEF files properly.

Pre-emptive chill, it's a joke!!!!

But seriously, those who swear by that program should have a separate place from those who swear at it. That way everyone is happy. I'm all for a separate Adobe forum and a separate Nik forum, too. All these tools are different enough from one another that they all deserve their own space. There can still be friendly chatter about the merits of one vs the other in the general forum, but there should be a place for detailed questions and tips for each software solution.

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Ramesses Registered since 29th Mar 2007Fri 01-Jan-10 07:39 PM
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#36. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 35


US
          

Hi:

Happy New Year Everyone.

I also vote to have more forums. Digital processing is probably 50% of what with do in photography and there is only one forum dedicated to it. Film processing or media, for example, has three: Color Slide & Print, Black and White Film, and General Film Issues. IMHO, Digital Postprocessing & Workflow could be split into three forums as well:

1. General Postprocessing & Workflow (open)
2. Nikon Software (Capture, Capture NX, View NX, Nikon Transfer, Camera Control Pro, Plug-ins, etc)
3. Adobe Photoshop (Lightroom, Photoshop CSx, Elements, and Plug-ins like the Nik Software suite of programs.)

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robsb Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his expertise in CNX2 and his always amicable and continuous efforts to help members Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 23rd Aug 2006Sat 02-Jan-10 05:33 AM
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#38. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 36


San Jose, US
          

Hector I think that breakout would work.

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Ramesses Registered since 29th Mar 2007Sat 02-Jan-10 06:22 AM
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#39. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 38


US
          

Hi Bob:

Thanks. I really hope it happens. We'll see.

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telcontr Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2009Sun 03-Jan-10 02:42 AM
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#51. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 36


US
          

I'm another vote in favor of an NX2 forum. I think Hector's 3-forum suggestion is the way to go.

Jeff

>1. General Postprocessing & Workflow (open)
>2. Nikon Software (Capture, Capture NX, View NX, Nikon
>Transfer, Camera Control Pro, Plug-ins, etc)
>3. Adobe Photoshop (Lightroom, Photoshop CSx, Elements, and
>Plug-ins like the Nik Software suite of programs.)

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DPower Platinum Member Nikonian since 02nd Jun 2004Wed 06-Jan-10 02:14 AM
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#78. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 36
Wed 06-Jan-10 02:18 AM by DPower

Fayetteville, US
          

I like Hektor's idea ... this one gets my vote. It would probably have more traffic than the Platinum Lounge and could be used by all members.

DP

  

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ndtking Gold Member Nikonian since 16th Jun 2008Fri 15-Jan-10 11:05 AM
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#101. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 35


Kitchener, CA
          

>But seriously, those who swear by that program should have a
>separate place from those who swear at it. That way everyone
>is happy. I'm all for a separate Adobe forum and a separate
>Nik forum, too. All these tools are different enough from
>one another that they all deserve their own space. There can
>still be friendly chatter about the merits of one vs the other
>in the general forum, but there should be a place for detailed
>questions and tips for each software solution.
>
>
What he said!

I would love to have separate forums(fora?). As a non NX user, it would make it easier to find the subjects I'm interested in and to offer my two cents on the software I know something about.

Gerry King
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Tzed250 Registered since 18th Jan 2009Fri 01-Jan-10 04:18 PM
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#34. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

I would prefer an NX2 specific forum.

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KJW Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2006Fri 01-Jan-10 10:14 PM
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#37. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Davisburg, US
          

I'm looking at this because I was looking for a Capture NX forum. This is as close as I could find. I would much prefer a dedicated Capture NX forum.

  

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guystooges Silver Member Nikonian since 28th May 2009Sat 02-Jan-10 09:31 AM
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#40. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Fortuna, US
          

Please add me to the list for a Capture NX only forum...

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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006Sat 02-Jan-10 01:34 PM
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#41. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Sat 02-Jan-10 01:35 PM by barrywesthead

Kleinburg, CA
          


I am not an NX user but as a Nikonian I vote for the NX forum.

Makes sense to me.

Barry

  

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GabrielC Registered since 15th Dec 2008Sat 02-Jan-10 08:32 PM
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#42. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Bucharest, RO
          

I really think Capture NX forum is a must here, as it seems to be no.1 raw processing software used by this community. On top of this, we have some very NX experienced people here at Nikonians (like Jason Odell, for instance) and such a forum could be a good place to seek and find advice. It could be even useful to provide the producers
some useful feed-back and improvment suggestions.

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Ramesses Registered since 29th Mar 2007Sat 02-Jan-10 10:08 PM
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#43. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

Hi Gabriel:

I agree about the need for a Nikon Software specific forum. However, I do believe that Photoshop (LR, CSx, Elements and the Nik Plug-ins) are used the most by our members. That is why, I'm in favor of having three forums: A general open one, a Photoshop and Nikon Software specific forums.

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#54. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 42


Englewood, US
          

>I really think Capture NX forum is a must here, as it seems
>to be no.1 raw processing software used by this community. On
>top of this, we have some very NX experienced people here at
>Nikonians (like Jason Odell, for instance) and such a forum
>could be a good place to seek and find advice. It could be
>even useful to provide the producers
>some useful feed-back and improvment suggestions.

Mine seems to be the minority opinion here, but I just don't see the need.
We already have a perfectly good place to ask and answer questions;
I welcome the input from the larger community. The number of NX
experienced people answering questions is not going to change just
because someone creates another forum. Questions will still be
answered and opinions given by the same folks. I use NX2, but hope I'am
able to learn from others using other software as well.

The basics, White Balance, Exposure Compensation, Depth of Field etc.
don't change. I like it when Jason Odell or Rick Walker add their
comments and opinions to the forum, but neither of them use
CaptureNX exclusively.

I find it is just not that hard to scroll through my email digest of the
forum(s) I subscribe to, and pick out messages and threads I want to
pursue.

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#44. "RE: Why no Capu re NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


Apex, US
          

I'll chime in one more time. I am still in favor of keeping a single forum for digital postprocessing and workflow. I do not think that there is so much traffic specifically about Nikon software that we need a whole separate forum, nor is there enough Photoshop or Lightroom specific traffic to warrant a separate forum for Adobe software. I like going to one place on Nikonians to read about all software related questions and discussions. I still like to read how other people do their workflow whether it is NX2 based, Adobe based or something else. I feel that dividing things up too finely dilutes the value.

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#46. "RE: Why no Capu re NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 44
Sun 03-Jan-10 01:26 AM by Ramesses

US
          

Hi Danny:

I do not necessarily agree. You might be right about the traffic, but it is the proverbial dilemma of the chicken and the egg. I, for example, do not participate as often because of the generalities of the topics and the same questions over and over again. On the other hand, I would take a much more active role, if we had a Photoshop specific forum.

The above does not mean the we should not have a general and open forum, which is very good for Nikonians, imho. There is not that much support for Nikon Software in the Internet. A dedicated forum, would encourage people to get at least a "silver" membership. I would like to emphasize, that people would still be able to ask questions about Photoshop or Nikon software in the open forum.

IMHO, we are also losing traffic to Photoshop specific sites like NAPP, which I'm a member. That is $99/year, btw.

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#45. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


Memphis, US
          

Wow alot a passion for and against a NX or Nikon software forum! Since NX2 is my main PP tool I am a fan of NX2 and Nik filters.

Just remember new forums require enough posts to sustain them and then they need Mods who will read every post and Mods are not easy to come by.

I will forward this to the admin team and owners for discussion but remember this takes time for either a go or no go so be patient.

Jim

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Ramesses Registered since 29th Mar 2007Sun 03-Jan-10 01:38 AM
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#47. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

Hi Jim:

Thanks for taking this matter up.

No problems about moderators. Bob Baldassano can moderate the Nikon Forum; Rick Walker and Stephen Bishop can do the same with the Photoshop one.

Rick, Bob, and Steve. You are more than welcome! There is no need to thank me; it is the least I could do

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#53. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Canton, US
          

Funny! But I think it takes more than just being a fan of a particular piece of software to qualify for being a forum moderator... and I ain't no expert..

Regardless of the mechanics of setting up a new forum, having separate ones for each PP solution makes a lot of since, as NX and Photoshop are so different from one another. Someone else mentioned cameras... to NOT have separate software forums would be like Nikonians having just a single camera forum.

Steve

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#63. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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San Jose, US
          

Steve it definitely does take more than just a fan to moderate a forum. It takes knowledge, time and a detailed understanding of what the forum is about, we are lucky to have many people in Nikonians with these skills. Many people are familiar with at least 2 Post Processing tools, because we tend to use more than one depending on the task.

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#64. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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San Jose, US
          

Hector while I appreciate the nod, what we really need is an NX2 expert moderator-not me, a Vincent Versace I am not. I will participate where I am able, just as I have done in this forum, but we need someone with more knowledge than me to run an NX2 forum and one with connections to Nikon and NIK. When I first made the suggestion about an NX2 forum, I had hoped that there might be some simple tutorials provided as well a detailed discussions on how to use NX2. I am still convinced that people who first use NX2 are confused by the interface and how to proceed. If you never had a darkroom, it takes a bit more effort to understand post processing. I saw a dedicated NX2 site like an education tool for those who want to use NX2 but don't know how. While I can go to any computer store and see hundreds on books about Photoshop because it is the defacto standard, I will not see many of NX2, and that is why Nikonians whould focus on it because help is hard to find. This is a very powerful piece of SW that most people have no clue on how to get the most out of it.

Bob Baldassano
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#65. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Mon 04-Jan-10 06:51 AM by Ramesses

US
          

Hi Steve and Bob:

I understand and fully agree with what you are saying. What I said was in jest, because it is very easy to volunteer others. If someone would nominate me, the first thing that would come out of my mouth is: "no,no,no,no…me no English. Esperanto, ja; Inglese, niente."

I was an early adopter of NX (I) I got it the first week it came out, read both of Jason's books (I & II,) have Nik Color Efex Pro for NX, and Noise Ninja, stand alone, due to the NR in NX. I have not really used it in over 6 months, because I used to convert NEF files and send the TIFF copies over to LR. Besides the speed, I'm not in love with the "flying" panels.

Viveza is the shell that NX is built on. Viveza 2 is excellent and powerful, especially the background processing. Therefore, if there is an NX3 - only Nikon knows and their Patricians (I'm just a Plebeian,) it is going to be pretty good, imho.


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#48. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Sun 03-Jan-10 01:55 AM by Paul_Fisher

Perth, AU
          

I recall that we used to have separate forums some years ago, but they were combined because the traffic volume was so low. Of course our membership has grown enormously since then, so the suggestion is under review.

As an aside, we are constantly reviewing the number and make-up of our forums to give the best overall balance. Some of the issues influencing the decision include:

1. Are the existing forums serving their purpose? Do they have too much traffic or cover too wide a field?

2. Would there be enough traffic to sustain a new forum?

3. Do we have sufficient moderators with the requisite skills to manage a new forum, and the availability to do so?

4. How much administrative overhead would be involved in establishing a new forum (or for that matter, deleting or combining existing forums)?

There is actually quite a lot of work in maintaining the forums, not the least of which is getting the database sorted if the forum structure is changed. That's one of the reasons we still have three film forums - we haven't had the time to combine all the forum postings and get the database sorted.

Paul Fisher
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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Sun 03-Jan-10 02:04 AM
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#49. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Tacoma, US
          

Seems like a general forum restructuring is in order, Paul. 3 film forums?

Why there is a separate D700 forum instead of a Full Frame forum is beyond me as well.

New forums seem to be added quickly once a new camera model is released.

If Nikonians won't support Capture NX, who will? This is a great and unique piece of software that gives Nikon a leg up on Canon. I don't think Adobe needs any help supporting their software.

Mick
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#50. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Sun 03-Jan-10 02:36 AM by Paul_Fisher

Perth, AU
          

You're right Mick - it's relatively easy to add a new forum, if there are no pre-existing posts. However there are a heck of a lot of posts in the film forums, which makes it a very laborious process to combine them. Similarly, to split a forum out of an existing one (as we would have to do for the proposed NX forum) also involves a lot of moving pre-existing posts then getting everything properly sequenced.

Re the D700 forum - in most cases we will add a specific forum if a new body comes out because there will be a very high traffic load for that body over the first year or so. Later, when traffic tails off, we have to consider whether it's worth the effort of merging forums.

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#52. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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There is no need to take the time to merge old posts... Leave those where they are and just start a new Capture nx2 forum from scratch and don't worry about past posts on the subject.... (I don't use Capture nx... but believe there should definitely be a forum for this software)

Stop putting obstacles in your way, just create the forum and the users will do the rest....

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#55. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Martin, TN, US
          

I just did a search in Nikoscope for Capture NX.  Got 11,633
results, in no order whatsoever.  Any way to ORGANIZE that
info?

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#56. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Paignton, GB
          

>Any way to ORGANIZE that info?

Yes. If you click on the "MORE OPTIONS" button in NikoScope, it will allow you to order the search results by:

+ relevance
+ posting date (ascending or descending)
+ last reply date (ditto)
+ number of views (ditto)
+ number of replies (ditto)

You can also search for posts made in the last 3 days, last week, month, 3 months...

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#57. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Scotland, GB
          

Mick,

I have been a Nikonian since 2006. I read several Nikonians groups every day and never had had a problem finding what I am interested in or that which I thought I never would be interested.

Controversial it may be but my perusal of all the posters in this thread who are virtually demanding an NX group are those with relatively few posts. There are exceptions like Bob Baldassano and Hektor.

Perhaps the old adage that lurking first is the best policy.

regards,

Ian

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#59. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Buffalo, US
          

>Mick,
>
>I have been a Nikonian since 2006. I read several Nikonians
>groups every day and never had had a problem finding what I am
>interested in or that which I thought I never would be
>interested.
>
>Controversial it may be but my perusal of all the posters in
>this thread who are virtually demanding an NX group are those
>with relatively few posts. There are exceptions like Bob
>Baldassano and Hektor.
>
>Perhaps the old adage that lurking first is the best policy.
>
>regards,
>
>Ian

Ian,

Would you elaborate on this post please? I am troubled by the "virtually demanding" phrase, and I would like to know if my 53rd posting in my 10th month of Nikonians membership counts less than more prolific contributers that haven't bothered to respond? Also, what does 'the old adage' (I never heard it before) "Lurking first is the best policy" mean? Just what are you saying?

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#58. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Lecompte, US
          

Big time vote me in for the Capture forum. Just starting to get some professional work and need all the help I can get.

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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Sun 03-Jan-10 08:32 PM
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#60. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Tacoma, US
          

Well this discussion is getting lively the last few days! I though this had died out a few weeks ago.

For those going after "posting count", keep at it. I only contribute when I have something to say that I think is valuable, or have a question that I cannot resolve on my own.

I think one of the values of having separate forums for different products is that it cuts down on the "My product is better that your product" posts, which don't contribute much. Maybe there should be a separate "Product Debate" forum for that.

I've chosen NX as the major part of my workflow. I'd like to see a forum that concentrates on that where we can learn from each other. I don't know how may times I've seen NX specific threads contain messages about how something can be done in LR or some other product as if that's the answer to the original question, or about how NX is too slow so the poster doesn't use it. Well, that doesn't contribute to enhancing our ability to use NX and the further development of it.

If Nikon and Nik ever decide that NX just isn't worth keeping going, I am going to have to make a major, painful adjustment. I think we need to build the NX community. Seems like Nikonians should be the place to do that.

Mick
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James23p Moderator Awarded for his wide variety of skills, a true generalist both in film and digital photography Nikonian since 25th Apr 2004Mon 04-Jan-10 05:27 AM
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#62. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Memphis, US
          

I can assure you as far as the team is concerned the number of posts means little. If a new member has a great idea then it is a great idea!

Jim

PS NX2 and ViewNX are my main PP tools and workflow!

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smb_ohio Registered since 18th Mar 2006Mon 04-Jan-10 09:22 AM
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#69. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Canton, US
          

Jim, I thought you were a film guy... !!!

Steve

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#61. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Colorado Springs, US
          

I would use it!

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#66. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Dumbarton, GB
          

I wonder how many of the "protesters" have actually set up and
managed a forum. I used to have a forum for angling so I have
some insight as to how to manage one. It is like walking a tightrope when there is someone sawing away at it! The biggest problem that I see is that - the same for all sub forums - posters will still continue
to post in other places regardless of the heading in the forum. The more sub forums the worse the problem and the bigger the headache for the moderator? Because people pay to be a member of the site then the more - quite rightly - they expect but there has to be limits. One poster remarked about databases and making changes to them? BELIEVE me
that is hazardous and is best avoided if possible! I think the "protesters" should chill out and give the moderators some slack. They DON'T have an easy job.

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#67. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Tacoma, US
          

"Protesters"? Good grief!

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#68. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

Hi Mick:

Since I am a protester (flashback to my college days,) I'm designing my picket sign:

"Only after being captured by NX, we can be illuminated by the light in the room."

More forums, more forums, more forums….

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#70. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Canton, US
          

Me thinketh they protesteth too much.

If a new forum is too much trouble for whatever reason, let me offer another suggestion: require posts that are specific to NX only to have the words "Capture NX" as the first part of the subject line. That may be a bit messy, but in lieu of a separate forum it would make it easy for members to sort through posts that are relevant to their own particular workflow.

Steve

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#71. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Mon 04-Jan-10 12:50 PM by Baaker

Dumbarton, GB
          

>"Protesters"? Good grief!
>
>Mick
>www.mickklassphoto.com

It does seem like a protest? Seventy posts or thereabouts? There will be placards outside the moderator's houses next? I am glad that I am not a moderator on here!

I have just had a look on the Nikon Cafe

http://www.nikoncafe.com/vforums/forumdisplay.php?f=138

something like twelve posts since December 21st and I am sure some of the members there will be members here?


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#72. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

Does it really matter how many people post on a forum. Personally, I don't think so. What matters is the quality of the post and the info garnered from the post. I often read posts, learn a lot, but don't contribute, either because I am:
1. too lazy
2. the question I had was answered in the post
3. my post wouldn't add anything to the conversation
4. all of the above....

Actually I think there should be separate forums on all the different digital image software....

Separate forums would be less confusing and easier to review with less redundancy in posts

But I am new here... (What do I know??? - ha ha ha ) The forums have already helped me...

From the Department of Redundancy Department


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#73. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Lecompte, US
          

It will be interesting to see how the management reacts to the requests of a good number of members. Seems like an awful lot of people like to use NX. I would like to see the forum started but like you said (What do I know)?

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#74. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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CA
          

Wow. And I was thinking that I was the only one. Apparently not.

I've been wanting to ask what I considered such an obvious question for so long but figured that if no one else had brought it up that perhaps those who speak of not enough traffic to justify the forum were held as self evidently correct in their assumptions.

The rationale for separate forums, not just for NX but also Abobe, seems fairly straight forward as they are both complex tools and require specific attention as opposed to many of the more general questions that are interspersing (clogging?)the rest of the forum.

I found it interesting though as I was reading the many responses to this question that there seems to be conflicting arguments amongst those who do not agree that the Nikonians site should have a specific forum for Nikon's premier proprietary work flow software.Most site a lack of traffic while others are concerned with finding moderators to read "every" posting.

My own personal take on the traffic volume is that all a separate forum does is create an organizational benefit for those of use who seek answers, not really any different from creating a new folder in your browser bookmarks. Surly the same mod who is receiving the postings for the amalgamated forum could still handle the same postings only tagged for the specific forum. Or am I too simplistic in my perceptions of how things work?

And as for traffic volume. Does it actually matter if every forum is a beehive of activity. After all there's no profit margin to maintain on these things...is there?

I overwhelmingly vote for an NX forum.

Bob

  

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#75. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Frederick, US
          

Mick,
I guess I come down on the side of leaving it the way it is as I have never had trouble navigating the different posts based on the OP's lead-in question/comment. As I use NX2, LR2, and PSCS2/4, I am interested in what is happening in all those areas and having just one forum to go to saves me time - especially on a slow dial-up connection. HOWEVER, it seems like there is a LOT of support for trying something different. I like Hektor's suggestion (in-for-an-inch-in-for-a-mile, I guess) for breaking things out. Perhaps it can be done on an experimental basis to see how well it works and what the traffic is like. Having an NX forum might be very appealing to newcomers who have just bought their first Nikon camera, want to try post-processing using NX software, but are hesitant to jump into the "big-pond-forum" so to speak. Anyway, based on the responses to this great thread, I vote for some experimentation in the current Nikonian's post-processing forum setup.

Jim

  

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#77. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Brattleboro, US
          

there seem to be good arguments on either side of this debate, though my impression is that they are mostly based on limited or no data. it would be helpful if the owners of the site would provide that data, which might include the number of NX2 related searches that actually exist within various time-frames as separate from searches on LR, etc. it is intuitive to the person interested in a topic (including to me) that a separate header for that topic be available, but it is likely not always practical. i have wanted an NX forum since i joined this site, and would gladly read it (though given my low posting count, perhaps would not always contribute to it...). so, if the data and the practicality support it, i vote for a separate site...if not, i'll continue using the search function.

Mark

  

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#79. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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US
          

I fail to understand several things....

1) If members want a forum, why can't members start one, if it is aides in masteing Nikon related photography???
2) Why are we even concerned with the amount of posts that will occur in one forum or not. It is not about quantity but quality.
3) Don't forget, this site was started with only 30 members and look at its success. I would not worry about the success of any forum started here if it will aide the members.
4) It is funny how bureaucracies can suddenly appear in organizations and forget the reason for the organization.....
5) Remember, the members are the clients, and Nikonians is a service-based business, so why not give the clients the silly forum???

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TiggerGTO Silver Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006Wed 06-Jan-10 11:18 AM
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#80. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 79


Apex, US
          

The main answer to your first question is that the Nikonians forums are fully moderated. There is at least one moderator assigned to each and every forum and they are responsible for reading each and every post. If posts belong in a different forum, they move them. If a conversation turns into a flame war, they keep things calm and level headed. This is why Nikonians has one of the most organized, civilized and best signal-to-noise ratio forums on the Internet.

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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006Wed 06-Jan-10 12:47 AM
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#76. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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Kleinburg, CA
          


While I originally voted for the NX forum even though I am not an NX user, I am having some second thoughts about segregating the post-processing forums.

I visit the post-processing forum daily and am always interested in hearing opinions on all post-processing software.

Barry

  

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smb_ohio Registered since 18th Mar 2006Wed 06-Jan-10 12:36 PM
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#81. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 76


Canton, US
          

Having separate sub-categories for specific PP software should in no way keep anyone from being informed about all the solutions out there. If anything, it would keep things more organized for those who are wanting to learn more about a specific application.

Steve

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beentherdunit Registered since 30th Dec 2009Wed 06-Jan-10 12:59 PM
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#82. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
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GB
          

Having a Capture NX2 specific forum would, perhaps, persuade some (me included) to "upgrade your Nikonians membership"!

There has already been a poll to see which is the most popular RAW converter, which NX2 seemed to be the leader of, so what's holding it back?

It would stop annoying the ACR guys and give us what we really really want.

Everyone's a winner.

BTD

  

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Baaker Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Aug 2009Thu 07-Jan-10 07:49 AM
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#84. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 81


Dumbarton, GB
          

>Having separate sub-categories for specific PP software
>should in no way keep anyone from being informed about all the
>solutions out there. If anything, it would keep things more
>organized for those who are wanting to learn more about a
>specific application.

More sub forums are fine if posters post in the right place. I would be interested to learn from the moderators about how many posts have to be moved by them from one sub forum to another because of posting in the wrong place?


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shuttrrbug Registered since 05th Dec 2009Thu 07-Jan-10 01:54 AM
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#83. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


Missouri City, US
          

Coming in late to the debate. Very much in favor of a Capture NX forum.
If you have not taken advantage of the webinar offered on Nikonians on Capture NX, I suggest you do so. I just converted from 1.2 to 2.2. Workflow is slightly different, but NX2 is vastly improved. After I ingest to Photo Mechanic, then I process solely in NX.
Let' keep a post processing forum however for other programs and issues arising.

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canepazzo Registered since 21st Feb 2009Mon 11-Jan-10 02:19 AM
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#85. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


San Jose, US
          

I would like to see Capture NX in its own forum or possibly all of the Nikon software in one forum.

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Baaker Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Aug 2009Tue 12-Jan-10 07:53 AM
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#86. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 85


Dumbarton, GB
          

Moderators is it not time you closed this thread? If you don't intend to bow to the "wishes" of the members then state that and move on?


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cinvest Registered since 15th Mar 2009Tue 12-Jan-10 06:46 PM
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#87. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 86


Lecompte, US
          

I agree with Baaker i the moderators have no earthly intention of providing what we are asking for they should say so and move on. Quit wasting our time, no guts no glory.

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robsb Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his expertise in CNX2 and his always amicable and continuous efforts to help members Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 23rd Aug 2006Thu 14-Jan-10 03:57 AM
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#93. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 87


San Jose, US
          

Hey give the moderator a break! No one wants to see a separate forum more than me, but the Mod already said many posts ago that he would bring it up with managment.

Bob Baldassano
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Ramesses Registered since 29th Mar 2007Thu 14-Jan-10 04:49 AM
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#94. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 93


US
          

Hi Bob:

I totally agree with you. I gave my views on the subject and it is up to management to make the decisions. There are many reasons why they will or won't. They might also know something that we don't. I'm positive and confident that Management will do what is best for Nikonians.

Hektor

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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006Thu 14-Jan-10 02:25 PM
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#96. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 93
Thu 14-Jan-10 03:49 PM by barrywesthead

Kleinburg, CA
          

>Hey give the moderator a break!

AGREED 100% !!!

I come to Nikonians every day. Some aspects of this thread illustrate the darker side of human nature.

Let's try to respect our fellow Nikonians in the tone of our communications. Nikonian forums are a great place for learning.

Barry

  

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#104. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 96


Englewood, US
          

>>Hey give the moderator a break!
>
>AGREED 100% !!!
>
Me Too! They are doing a heck of a good job, particularly considering
what they're getting paid.

There are certain things you don't discuss with Ansel, especially if you don't agree.
__Imogen Cunninghan


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smb_ohio Registered since 18th Mar 2006Wed 13-Jan-10 02:49 PM
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#88. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 86


Canton, US
          

Ah, the tyranny of the ruling class against the will of the tax-paying citizenry?

Steve

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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Wed 13-Jan-10 04:33 PM
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#89. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 88


Tacoma, US
          

Give me Liberty or Give me NX! (or something like that)

Mick
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Ramesses Registered since 29th Mar 2007Wed 13-Jan-10 04:45 PM
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#90. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 89


US
          

Hi Mr. Mick Henry:

I can't argue with that. They way you put it, NX is synonymous with death I think you meant: "Give me NX or give me death."

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mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006Wed 13-Jan-10 05:12 PM
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#91. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 90


Tacoma, US
          

Nah, it doesn't have the same ring to it!

Mick
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neversink Registered since 30th Nov 2009Wed 13-Jan-10 06:10 PM
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#92. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 0


US
          

To the owners of this site???

Why can't members of this site start their own groups or forums, as are done on other web sites. The members become the administrators of each site. The administrators do the work that is necessary to keep the site civil and on track. There can be a number of super admins, and then a number of admins. All sorts of creativity can occur. But perhaps the powers that be have no interest in making this a living and creative and vibrant and creative web site... Or perhaps they don't know how to...

Oh well.... It is sad if this site isn't allowed to evolve creatively and sometimes spontaneously....

There are so many ways that this site could become more dynamic....

I'd love to see it happen... and would be willing to help!!!

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Baaker Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Aug 2009Thu 14-Jan-10 08:14 AM
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#95. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 92


Dumbarton, GB
          

Would they be willing to sort out the technical database problems they create? It would be a recipe for anarchy? The moderators and administrators are already members. What qualifications do you have to be helpful? I don't think they would want you because of your critical remarks? LOL


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neversink Registered since 30th Nov 2009Thu 14-Jan-10 03:25 PM
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#97. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 95


US
          

Are you joking? I hope so....
Should we just be puppets of organizations we pay to join....

Other websites do it. Why not Nikonians? Give the members what they want. There wouldn't be anarchy because the admins would be responsible to still follow decorum and rules set down by Nikonians....

Letting members start groups and forums would make this place more dynamic...

Now I have to get back to my photo shoot....

  

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Baaker Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Aug 2009Fri 15-Jan-10 08:16 AM
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#100. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 97


Dumbarton, GB
          

>Are you joking? I hope so....
>Should we just be puppets of organizations we pay to join....
>
>Other websites do it. Why not Nikonians? Give the members what
>they want. There wouldn't be anarchy because the admins would
>be responsible to still follow decorum and rules set down by
>Nikonians....
>
>Letting members start groups and forums would make this place
>more dynamic...
>
>Now I have to get back to my photo shoot....
>

This sort of comment will only anger the moderators who are MEMBERS and give their time freely. I have lurked in dozens of sites in the last decade and I haven't noticed the ability of members to create their own groups. They would need access to the administrator side of the forum and no self respecting owner of a site would do that for security reasons. Forums within forums must me started by the owner or a trusted moderator. I am speaking from experience of running a forum in the past. Would like to name some forums that allow members to create forums?

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neversink Registered since 30th Nov 2009Fri 15-Jan-10 12:11 PM
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#102. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 100


US
          


Check out chess.com -- not a photo site but a very active site that has quadrupled its membership in two years... The site is vibrant and has taken on a life of its own to the surprise and delight of its owner. The members made that site grow through their own creativity and input and freedom (within a structure.) I am not saying that Nikonians follow what the chess.com site has done. However, I do feel that there are many number of ways to skin a cat (no offense to animal lovers - myself being one.) And I truly believe the more freedom members are given to create groups and forums, the more vibrant this site would probably become. Would there be mistakes made. Probably some.... But the rewards, I believe, would be incredible for both the membership and the owner, I believe.

Look, I am not trying to anger anyone. Just trying to show that things can be done differently and more openly and have surprising and positive results... We photographers are very creative people. And of course we would have to adhere to the etiquette, site rules and high standards the owners set out when they created this site.

I hope my offer of help would be taken seriously -- why would any offer of help anger the owners. They have allowed this discussion to continue?? I don't think they are afraid of this discussion. Maybe they are even amused.

I apologize if I offended anyone. It was not my intent. A healthy debate does not have to bring out the AK47s and machetes.

Time to take some photographs!!!!!

>>Are you joking? I hope so....
>>Should we just be puppets of organizations we pay to
>join....
>>
>>Other websites do it. Why not Nikonians? Give the members
>what
>>they want. There wouldn't be anarchy because the admins
>would
>>be responsible to still follow decorum and rules set down
>by
>>Nikonians....
>>
>>Letting members start groups and forums would make this
>place
>>more dynamic...
>>
>>Now I have to get back to my photo shoot....
>>
>
>This sort of comment will only anger the moderators who are
>MEMBERS and give their time freely. I have lurked in dozens of
>sites in the last decade and I haven't noticed the ability of
>members to create their own groups. They would need access to
>the administrator side of the forum and no self respecting
>owner of a site would do that for security reasons. Forums
>within forums must me started by the owner or a trusted
>moderator. I am speaking from experience of running a forum in
>the past. Would like to name some forums that allow members to
>create forums?
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/43019448@N04/

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pdekman Gold Member Winner in The Nikonians 10th Anniversary Photo Contest Awarded as a regular contributor who offers in-depth knowledge to members who are interested in building efficient work flows. Nikonian since 17th Nov 2005Thu 14-Jan-10 05:18 PM
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#98. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 92


Swisher, US
          

>But perhaps the powers that be
>have no interest in making this a living and creative and
>vibrant and creative web site... Or perhaps they don't know
>how to...

Keep some perspective, please. How is either having or not having a software-based subforum structure - within 1 of nearly 80 total forums - limiting this sites overall creativity? Is it not our collective engagement, assistance to others, activities and resources that matter most?

>
>Oh well.... It is sad if this site isn't allowed to evolve
>creatively and sometimes spontaneously....
>
>There are so many ways that this site could become more
>dynamic....
>

I don't participate in many other forums - which ones allow users to spontaneously create their own structures? I'd like to see what they look like. I don't disagree that finding ways to bring creativity and some dynamics to Nikonians would be a good thing.

>I'd love to see it happen... and would be willing to help!!!
>

Thanks for be willing to assist - that's a big part of what this community has offered me since I've joined.


Paul
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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006Thu 14-Jan-10 06:29 PM
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#99. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 98
Thu 14-Jan-10 06:36 PM by barrywesthead

Kleinburg, CA
          

>>But perhaps the powers that be
>>have no interest in making this a living and creative and
>>vibrant and creative web site... Or perhaps they don't
>know
>>how to...
>
>Keep some perspective, please. How is either having or not
>having a software-based subforum structure - within 1 of
>nearly 80 total forums - limiting this sites overall
>creativity? Is it not our collective engagement, assistance
>to others, activities and resources that matter most?
>
>>
>>Oh well.... It is sad if this site isn't allowed to
>evolve
>>creatively and sometimes spontaneously....
>>
>>There are so many ways that this site could become more
>>dynamic....
>>
>
>I don't participate in many other forums - which ones allow
>users to spontaneously create their own structures? I'd like
>to see what they look like. I don't disagree that finding
>ways to bring creativity and some dynamics to Nikonians would
>be a good thing.
>
>>I'd love to see it happen... and would be willing to
>help!!!
>>
>
>Thanks for be willing to assist - that's a big part of what
>this community has offered me since I've joined.
>
>
>

Very thoughtful input to this thread, Paul.

I'm sure many readers will appreciate the time you put into your response. I may not be the only reader thinking, "why couldn't I have said that?" You have a gift with words.

Barry

  

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neversink Registered since 30th Nov 2009Fri 15-Jan-10 12:13 PM
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#103. "RE: Why no Capure NX specific forum?"
In response to Reply # 99


US
          

Check out chess.com -- not a photo site but a very active site that has quadrupled its membership in two years... The site is vibrant and has taken on a life of its own to the surprise and delight of its owner. The members made that site grow through their own creativity and input and freedom (within a structure.) I am not saying that Nikonians follow what the chess.com site has done. However, I do feel that there are many number of ways to skin a cat (no offense to animal lovers - myself being one.) And I truly believe the more freedom members are given to create groups and forums, the more vibrant this site would probably become. Would there be mistakes made. Probably some.... But the rewards, I believe, would be incredible for both the membership and the owner, I believe.

Look, I am not trying to anger anyone. Just trying to show that things can be done differently and more openly and have surprising and positive results... We photographers are very creative people. And of course we would have to adhere to the etiquette, site rules and high standards the owners set out when they created this site.

I hope my offer of help would be taken seriously -- why would any offer of help anger the owners. They have allowed this discussion to continue?? I don't think they are afraid of this discussion. Maybe they are even amused.

I apologize if I offended anyone. It was not my intent. A healthy debate does not have to bring out the AK47s and machetes.

Time to take some photographs!!!!!

>>Are you joking? I hope so....
>>Should we just be puppets of organizations we pay to
>join....
>>
>>Other websites do it. Why not Nikonians? Give the members
>what
>>they want. There wouldn't be anarchy because the admins
>would
>>be responsible to still follow decorum and rules set down
>by
>>Nikonians....
>>
>>Letting members start groups and forums would make this
>place
>>more dynamic...
>>
>>Now I have to get back to my photo shoot....
>>
>
>This sort of comment will only anger the moderators who are
>MEMBERS and give their time freely. I have lurked in dozens of
>sites in the last decade and I haven't noticed the ability of
>members to create their own groups. They would need access to
>the administrator side of the forum and no self respecting
>owner of a site would do that for security reasons. Forums
>within forums must me started by the owner or a trusted
>moderator. I am speaking from experience of running a forum in
>the past. Would like to name some forums that allow members to
>create forums?

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