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dgs2 Registered since 30th Sep 2004Sat 26-Mar-11 06:27 AM
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"Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"


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I recently purchased a D7000. I also use NX2 and have the ebook from Jason Odell. With my D200, I used the capture sharpening setting suggested in Jason's ebook. I have been unable to find comparable setting for the D7000, but because the sensor is so different, I suspect the sharpening setting are, also. Can anyone provide me with the USM setting you use for sharpening in NX2 with the D7000?

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#1. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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Sat 26-Mar-11 12:16 PM by KnightPhoto

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>I recently purchased a D7000. I also use NX2 and have the
>ebook from Jason Odell. With my D200, I used the capture
>sharpening setting suggested in Jason's ebook. I have been
>unable to find comparable setting for the D7000, but because
>the sensor is so different, I suspect the sharpening setting
>are, also. Can anyone provide me with the USM setting you use
>for sharpening in NX2 with the D7000?

One of the moderators (Dave) posted an excellent sharpening recap recently so I would like to link to it, but for the moment I can't find it (it was either in this forum or the D7K forum I think).

Dave was pointing out the three phases of sharpening "Capture, Creative, and Output". I'll bet he will notice this and chime in.

Anyhow, in Dr. J's recent video ebook offering, Jason is very much continuing the theme of the 3 phases, advocating in particular use of selective sharpening in phase 2 (as well as advocating more use of Hi-Pass for detailed backgrounds). There's so much information in there I am still going through it.

To sum up I am using a variety of sharpening settings:
- in camera I dial it up to 6 or 7 within the picture controls. This has two purposes, it allows me to evaluate sharpness while I am out shooting and it allows a decent default if I am bulk-processing an event. Something I do often is individually process the best 20 or 40 photos and then maybe bulk process another 60 from an event.

- if I am giving an image individual attention, then I turn the in-camera sharpening off in NX2 and start with maybe 40/5/4 or 50/3/4 or even higher on the first number for a landscape. On a people shot oftentimes even my Capture sharpening might be selective.

- if you have an image that is not sharp but you need to rescue it, try 15/50/0.

- Creative sharpening second step will be selective and might be 40/5/4 or 50/3/4 or High-Pass. Sometimes I skip this step altogether. Or sometimes I'll actually leave the in-camera sharpening as the Capture sharpening step and then apply selective sharping as the Creative step.

- For both Capture and Creative sharpening I will oftentimes dial the first number down (from 40 or 50 to 30 or 25).

- Output sharpening I personally go easy and use 15/2/4 most often or 25/3/2 (or sometimes none) for jpgs after resizing. I think the printing folks sharpen even more for print output to the point where it has an over-sharpened look for web viewing. Based on that if my Output is Print I have taken to sharpening the image more aggressively.

- my sharpening has evolved since I went D200, D300, D700, D7000 but I think of it as more nuanced over time and not really camera-specific. E.g. for landscapes or birding/wildlife I'll sharpen a lot;, for people less sharpening overall except hair, eyes, lips, and hands and especially try to noise reduce their skin to reduce detail.

- It's been a while since I had the D200 though for me to recall whether there was something camera specific vs. the D7000. I guess based on Jason's materials he's got me thinking more subject-specific and output specific rather than camera specific but there may well be some D200 quirks that translate differently now with the D7000. I will say I sharpen fairly aggressively but more selectively on the D7K, especially since I take advantage of D7K high ISO for a LOT of my shooting, so I find I have to be a little careful not to sharpen noise into the image. But coming from the D200 that should be a full two-stop ISO advantage which is huge IMO!



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dgs2 Registered since 30th Sep 2004Thu 31-Mar-11 09:51 PM
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#2. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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Thanks for your great response. Very helpful. I'll also look for the thread you mentioned.

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dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Writer Ribbon awarded for his excellent article contributions to the Nikonians community Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006Fri 01-Apr-11 03:37 AM
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#3. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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Fri 01-Apr-11 05:13 PM by dm1dave

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Hi David,

The post Steve is referring to is in the middle of a really good thread on post processing. The sharpening discussion starts here at post #10. The entire thread is worth reading.

The setting suggested by Steve should be a good starting point. Even the settings listed in Jason's book are meant to be starting points and should be adjusted for the individual image. An important thing to remember about capture sharpening is that it is not the final sharpening for the image so it should not be very aggressive. You are only sharpening enough to reverse the effect of the camera Anti-Aliasing Filter. This makes the image just sharp enough that you can see where further sharpening is needed.

I tend to use a fairly low level of in-camera sharpening and in most cases I leave that as my Capture Sharpening. Usually the only time that I turn off the in-camera sharpening and apply Capture Sharpening in CNX is if the image may have noise issues as explained in the other thread.

Here is another good disscussion...
http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=329&topic_id=7028&mesg_id=7028&page=#7257

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mholka Registered since 04th Jan 2011Sat 02-Apr-11 12:31 AM
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#4. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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Sat 02-Apr-11 01:20 PM by mholka

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I am learning the whole PP thing. So I find your tips and suggestions very helpful. Thx

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ozzy1 Registered since 22nd Mar 2011Sat 02-Apr-11 09:36 AM
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#5. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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Martin..I am interested in that too....best of luck, howerver, for getting a useful reply.

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#6. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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The other good post by Dave about the three types of sharpening is in the D7000 forum here:
http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=329&topic_id=7028&mesg_id=7028&page=

IIRC Jason Odell advocates High Pass in the Creative step for high-detail images such as landscapes. I recommend his Video-product. Actually all his products I have bought have been a great value IMO. And Geez Louise his Photo Safaris look to be a great bargain!

I agree though that USM vs. High Pass is a difficult topic (and like another recent poster indicated - a detailed discussion is above my pay grade )


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#7. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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Thanks for the excellent info. I really found the two threads of Dave very informative.
Is there any specific value available for D90? I use CNX2 for PP and I am also very much a newbie in this matter.

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#8. "RE: Sharpening settings in NX2 for D7000?"
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I just saw this older post while looking for sharpening settings for my newly purchased D7000 and realized nobody responded to you. In any event, Jason Odell recommends a capture sharpening setting of 40/4/4 in Capture NX2 for the D90.

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