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ripvisitor Registered since 09th Feb 2011Mon 21-Feb-11 05:22 PM
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"Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."


Zwalm, BE
          

I tried to scan some old negatives Kodak type 126 orange color.
Problem the scans remain orange.
How can i compensate or reset ? I use Capture NX2.

Greetz. Thxs

  

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nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006Mon 21-Feb-11 05:26 PM
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#1. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Knoxville, US
          

It's a real pain to manually remove the orange cast from a negative. It's much easier to take care of it at the scanning time. Take a look at something like VueScan. I've had good results using it with my old negatives.

  

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ripvisitor Registered since 09th Feb 2011Mon 21-Feb-11 05:48 PM
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#2. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Zwalm, BE
          

Hi

Tried it this afternoon. Does not seem to work with my scanner.
So i am back to scanning with scanwizard.

Thxs

  

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nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006Tue 22-Feb-11 03:23 AM
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#4. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Knoxville, US
          

If you downloaded the 64 bit one try the 32 bit one, too. Some drivers for scanners only work in 32 bit mode.

  

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ripvisitor Registered since 09th Feb 2011Tue 22-Feb-11 11:22 AM
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#5. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Zwalm, BE
          

I installed the 32bit one.
sorry

  

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robsb Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his expertise in CNX2 and his always amicable and continuous efforts to help members Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 23rd Aug 2006Mon 21-Feb-11 06:45 PM
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#3. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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San Jose, US
          

While this is best done with proper scan Sw that compensates for this. Try using LCH and notch out the orange range and see if that helps.

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ripvisitor Registered since 09th Feb 2011Tue 22-Feb-11 11:23 AM
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#6. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Zwalm, BE
          

I choose LCD and could change the HUE bij dragging the pointer downwards. The image is a bit les orange, it s more brown.

But how to get rid of orange color ?

regards

  

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robsb Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his expertise in CNX2 and his always amicable and continuous efforts to help members Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 23rd Aug 2006Wed 23-Feb-11 12:19 AM
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#9. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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San Jose, US
          

Have you looked at SilverFast for your scanner? SilverFast has the drivers to auto correct for many different types of film and positive images and will remove the orange cast. Also if you know someone with Photoshop, move the image to Photoshop, make a new layer, use the average filter and then invert it and that will also remove the orange cast. IN CNX2 I was suggesting that you adjust the Chroma Channel and notch out the Orange. You will also want to use the Opacity Mixer when you play with color correction. For example you could apply changes only to the RED channel where most of the Orange would lie, or you could use the the Opacity of the Luminence channel turned down so only color is effected. Like I said, this is all so much easier in SilverFast.

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#10. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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I have no idea but wonder if the OP is getting a positive image with an orange cast or is it still a negative image with an orange cast?

Does the software your using try and convert it to a positive?

Just wondering.

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ripvisitor Registered since 09th Feb 2011Wed 23-Feb-11 11:06 AM
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#11. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Wed 23-Feb-11 11:25 AM by ripvisitor

Zwalm, BE
          

Hi

Well it is an negative, converted into a positive by the software. The sofwtare is Scanwizard V 7.31 for Microtec scanners. The scanner is a Medion ; but is in effect a MUSTEK 4800H.
The software works ok, with photo's, but with neg's .. this is the only but constant problem i face so far.
I have checked with Silverfast but they do not cover the MUSTEK 4800.


Regards

  

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#7. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Englewood, US
          

All the scanner software I have ever used in the past thirty years has features specifically
for scanning negatives. There's no adjustment, it's a negative to positive switch in the
software somewhere; you select a color negative as the source type and the scan software
automatically converts to positive.

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#8. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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New York, US
          

As a prepress professional for 25 years, let me second Gary's comments with these adds: Most of the software apps do a less-than-perfect job killing the orange and flipping the image, and the chances of doing it by hand in any editing app are effectively nil.

Plan B: get the negs printed and scan the prints.

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ripvisitor Registered since 09th Feb 2011Wed 23-Feb-11 11:07 AM
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#12. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Zwalm, BE
          

Well, i think i shall ask the photographer where I bought the camera to scan the neg's with a pro scanner .

THxs

  

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pwarbeck Silver Member Nikonian since 25th May 2009Thu 24-Feb-11 05:44 AM
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#13. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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Assuming you are working with NEFs in NX2, you can do this using White Balance. Set the gray point using a marquee sample taken in the orange film strip (either between frames or in the sprocket area). If you are working with a negative, then invert the colors. You can do this by flipping the LCH graph from x = y to x + y = 255 (i.e., from a diagonal line running lower left to upper right to a diagonal line running from upper left to lower right).

At least this is how I have always done it.

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robsb Platinum Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his expertise in CNX2 and his always amicable and continuous efforts to help members Laureate Ribbon awarded for winning in the Best of Nikonians 2013 images Photo Contest Nikonian since 23rd Aug 2006Thu 24-Feb-11 07:22 AM
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#14. "RE: Orange Kodak negative scan : adjust in NX2."
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San Jose, US
          

You are correct that is the way to invert negatives, but he is working with a positive image. It is still better to use scanner SW that corrects for film type-so much less hassel.

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