Are you looking at the Soft Instruction manual that came with CNX2? Here is the answer you would have found there:
Use This Instead of Embedded Profile This option causes Capture NX 2 to automatically convert the image from the embedded profile to the profile as defined in the Default RGB Color Space option. This option is automatically enabled if you selected the Always use the Default RGB Color Space as the working color space option during installation.
I should have looked there first- my bad. Why is it that when I open a raw nef image in CNX2 with the option checked, it opens properly as ProPhoto and when I save(still nef) after editing it doesn't embed ProPhoto as the color profile? Metadata still shows sRGB.
It should, When I load my images to my computer I use the built in transfer in the new NX2 and it sees that I want my default space to be ProPhoto and concerts my aRGB files to ProPhotoRGB. How are you converting your files? Perhaps you need to do a "Save As" step as if you just use SAVE it will save steps to the original file you opened. What options did you use during install?
I don't remember what options I installed NX2 with. I tried the "save as" method to no avail. Still doesn't embed the color profile. As far as my work flow is concerned, I usually import thru LR3 because some of my work has to be done quickly and in considerable amounts, and as much as I love NX2 there's simply no way I could survive on NX2's slow pace and frequent crashes(i7,8GB RAM,SSD, win7). Regardless, if "use this instead of embedded profile" really CONVERTS to the specified color space, why am I having this problem? Should I reinstall?
OK, I've reinstalled 2.2.6. Firstly, I couldn't choose ProPhoto as my default space during install-it simply wasn't on the list of choices. I had to go to preferences and check "use this instead of embedded profile." Secondly, still no luck embeding ProPhoto profile with "save" or "save as" for .nef or jpg. Well, partially true for jpg- if I save as jpg("embed ICC profile" checked of course), Bridge DOES show ProPhoto in metadata while both CNX2 and VNX2 show whatever I chose in camera(Adobe RGB in my case) and windows viewer("details" tab) and opanda iexif 2 show "uncalibrated". As far as nikon transfer 2 is concerned, it seems that the program ignores the "embed ICC color profile during transfer" setting because both CNX2 and VNX2 show Adobe RGB (the color space set in my D700) even if I DON'T check the "embed" box. ASAIK, if you don't embed the ICC profile on import, programs usualy default to sRGB or read as "uncalibrated." I hope I've made this clear. Any suggestions?
Sat 22-Jan-11 03:19 PM | edited Sat 22-Jan-11 03:28 PM by KnightPhoto
I just checked and my photos behave the same as DeeDee7 (Dawid).
I ingest using Nikon Transfer, use Capture NX2 2.2.6 with the convert to ProPhoto option checked, edited the NEF, converted it to sRGB and saved as a jpg.
Both ViewNX2 2.03 and Capture NX2 both say Image Settings: Color Space: Adobe RGB. I am on a iMac.
Here is the photo, perhaps you can tell me what your EXIF reader thinks is its colour space. I'm pretty sure you'll see it IS sRGB not Adobe RGB as reported by Nikon software. The reason I say that is on my second monitor, the sRGB photo (attached below) is visibly different than a larger sized jpg (same photo) but not converted to sRGB. I've never understood the behaviour of my second monitor but I guess that comes in handy this time because I can see the colours differently.
Nikon software seems to be stubbornly reporting the colour space as shot in camera and does not report what colour space it was converted to?
Hey, Steve! Thank you for your input. My findings on both the attached and pasted photo are identical: cnx2 & vnx2 show Adobe RGB bridge shows sRGB windows viewer and opanda iexif 2 show Uncalibrated I wonder what Bob will have to say about it.
Sat 22-Jan-11 04:27 PM | edited Sat 22-Jan-11 06:25 PM by mpappa
This is interesting. I have the same situation as well. NX2 reports Adobe RGB even though I saved as ProPhoto. I use Picture Window Pro as my other editor, and when I opened your photo in PWP it reported sRGB as the color space. Additionally, when I saved a photo in ProPhoto using NX2, PWP reported the correct color space for that photo. I believe you're correct in that NX2 is reporting the color space as recorded in the camera, and not what is saved in NX2.
PhotoME says "uncalibrated" in the camera section, "adobergb" in the manufacturer notes section, and srgb in the icc profile section. This isn't limited to Nikon. A lot of software screw up the exif in regard to colorspace. Both reading and writing. As long as the icc profile is there and correct, I don't usually have a problem with displaying/printing my pics.
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>PhotoME says "uncalibrated" in the camera section, >"adobergb" in the manufacturer notes section, and >srgb in the icc profile section. This isn't limited to Nikon. >A lot of software screw up the exif in regard to colorspace. >Both reading and writing. As long as the icc profile is there >and correct, I don't usually have a problem with >displaying/printing my pics.
Wow! Looks like PhotoME has it all! Too bad Nikon software doesn't show the "real" icc profile in metadata :/
Sun 23-Jan-11 08:29 PM | edited Mon 24-Jan-11 06:15 AM by robsb
I just checked the color profile of your image in VNX2 and CNX2 and Adobe Bridge. Bith Nikon products showed ARGB and Bridge showed sRGB. If you converted for WEB in Adobe, it will automatically convert to sRGB if it is checked. Was the original file ARGB? I have not done an extensive search to see where the EXIF data is stored for a conversion.
I just checked one of my own images which started as an ARGB, and was opened in my working space which is Pro Photo RGB. It showed a ARGB color space in CNX2. I looked at the original transfered image and it to showed AGRB as the color space. When I get a chance I will look at this further, but right now on my meds my head is a bit fuzzy..
Still fuzzy and not at my desktop 13 steps up, but I think the answer is this. If you don't check the box to convert your image toyour selected Default colorspace, CNX2 will use the embedded profile, in my case ARGB.
Steve thanks. I am recovering rapidly, but I am afraid that means they will only make me work harder or add more exercises after my checkup next week. I can do them, but between the workouts the fuzzy meds and the leg swelling that goes with this, it wips me. If I am lucky I get to sleep before my leg starts to hurt at night, as they are trying to have me start lowing the number of pills i take. I am supposed to be on a walker for 2 weeks, but to tell the truth the walker has not been needed most of the time since day 5. I do use it for safety, but often use a cane now which is the next step implement, but even there I often start walking with no aid because I forget to. I can't drive until I am off the Oxycoton, so I am motivated to get off them soon, but some level is needed to do the exercises and keep swelling down. Overall much better than I expected.