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jacsr Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2006Tue 27-Apr-10 08:40 PM
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"ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
Tue 27-Apr-10 08:44 PM by jacsr

Texas City, US
          

I am using ViewNX on a 10.1” netbook to review images after the images have been downloaded to an external drive. When reviewing the raw images in ViewNX full screen mode I have noticed that the image appears sharp then blurs slightly like some sort of smoothing occurs. This affect makes every image appear soft, as if focus was slightly off. Clicking the RAW button on the upper left corner allows the image to display very sharp. The only issue with clicking the RAW button is that it really slows the review process way down since it takes several seconds for the rendering process.

Has anyone seen this when using ViewNX? Is there a way to keep the smoothing from occurring? I have checked all the settings and have not seen anything that would affect this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Joe

  

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Freewheeler10 Registered since 17th Apr 2008Wed 28-Apr-10 12:37 PM
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#1. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Englewood, US
          

>I am using ViewNX on a 10.1” netbook to review images after
>the images have been downloaded to an external drive. When
>reviewing the raw images in ViewNX full screen mode I have
>noticed that the image appears sharp then blurs slightly like
>some sort of smoothing occurs. This affect makes every image
>appear soft, as if focus was slightly off.

>Has anyone seen this when using ViewNX? Is there a way to keep
>the smoothing from occurring? I have checked all the settings
>and have not seen anything that would affect this.

How interesting! Windows or Apple? On my windows laptop, I have always
had the reverse issue-- the image starts out soft, about 3/4 second later it
"comes into focus." I had always assumed it was some obscure setting in the
Radeon Video Chip driver, but since the images ended up in focus I never
pursued the issue.

Where there is perhaps a province in which the photograph can tell us
nothing more than what we see with our own eyes, there is another in
which it proves to us how little our eyes permit us to see.
____Dorothea Lange

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jacsr Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2006Wed 28-Apr-10 02:46 PM
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#2. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Texas City, US
          

This happens when using Snow Leopard 10.6.3. On my Vista desktop it works fine. I had the same issue with Faststone on the desktop and another Windows 7 laptop. There is a smoothing setting in that application and once turned off the review was sharp. ViewNX is acting exactly like Faststone did but with no smoothing option to turn off.

Joe

  

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Freewheeler10 Registered since 17th Apr 2008Thu 29-Apr-10 04:18 PM
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#4. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Englewood, US
          

>This happens when using Snow Leopard 10.6.3.

?? 10.6.3 here, no issues. Just saying that it was backwards for me on a windows
machine.

Where there is perhaps a province in which the photograph can tell us
nothing more than what we see with our own eyes, there is another in
which it proves to us how little our eyes permit us to see.
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cliddell Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Oct 2006Thu 29-Apr-10 01:01 PM
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Pietermaritzburg, ZA
          

I believe that the reason for a momentry unsharp image is to facilitate quick scrolling bcause the unsharp image "appears" very quickly. My sharp image takes 2 seconds longer to display.

Regards,
Clive Liddell
Pietermaritzburg
South Africa

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jacsr Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2006Thu 29-Apr-10 06:17 PM
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#5. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Texas City, US
          

It is actually the opposite. It is sharp then becomes less sharp and stay that way unless I click on the "RAW" tab and then is becomes very sharp. I would like to use ViewNX but this is unacceptable.

  

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Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009Fri 30-Apr-10 06:08 AM
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#6. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Vantaa, FI
          

I’m not using View NX on a notebook but I use Faststone Image Viewer (free) as a portable installation on a USB stick, which I use to show images on my friends’ computers. On some monitors I’ve seen a phenomenon similar to what you describe: the image appears sharp at first and becomes soft in a couple of seconds. In case of Faststone Image Viewer the apparent softness is caused by the slower (but usually much better) scaling algorithm Lanczos 3. If I edit the program’s preferences to use only the Fastlinear algorithm, I can see better what’s happening. The image is first rendered by the fast algorithm, which renders the image seriously oversharpened (big halos around contrasty edges). But if the fast render only flashes for a couple of seconds, you may not notice the oversharpening and think that the image turns soft in a while. But I must admit that on some monitors (video cards), Faststone appears to render the image somewhat soft.

As I said, my observations are with Faststone Image Viewer and I am only guessing that you may be seeing the same thing with View NX.

Best regards,
Antero

  

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jacsr Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2006Sat 01-May-10 09:27 PM
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#7. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Texas City, US
          

I use FastStone on my Windows machine (better than ViewNX but no MAC version) and I have experienced the same effect. I just went to Settings>Viewer and unchecked smoothing and the pictures were sharp. ViewNX is doing the exact same thing on Snow Leopard but there is no setting to adjust.

I guess I will just have to look for a different viewer that works on MAC. I don't need cataloging or even the ability to post process. I just need something quick that will display sharp pictures from RAW so I can cull the bad pictures.

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Joe

  

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Freewheeler10 Registered since 17th Apr 2008Sun 02-May-10 01:06 PM
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#8. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Englewood, US
          

>I guess I will just have to look for a different viewer that
>works on MAC. I don't need cataloging or even the ability to
>post process. I just need something quick that will display
>sharp pictures from RAW so I can cull the bad pictures.
>
>Thanks to everyone for your help.
>
>Joe

Stranger and stranger. I use viewNX 1.5.2 on my iMac under 10.6.3, full screen
view is sharp instantaneously. Also, when I use a dual-monitor setup, full
screens on the secondary monitor (old viewsonic) are instantly sharp.
Here's how I have ViewNX set up:


Where there is perhaps a province in which the photograph can tell us
nothing more than what we see with our own eyes, there is another in
which it proves to us how little our eyes permit us to see.
____Dorothea Lange

http://gallery.me.com/freewheeler
http://freewheeler10.blogspot.com/

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jacsr Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2006Sun 02-May-10 05:34 PM
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#9. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Texas City, US
          

I am using the same version of ViewNx but the "Viewer" tab is grayed out so I cannot configure it.

Maybe it has something to do with screen resolution. The netbook is only 1024x600 and I believe ViewNx recommends a higher base resolution.

The search is still on for an image browser.

Thanks,

Joe

  

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Freewheeler10 Registered since 17th Apr 2008Mon 03-May-10 12:28 PM
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#10. "RE: ViewNX Soft Images in Full Screen"
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Englewood, US
          

>I am using the same version of ViewNx but the
>"Viewer" tab is grayed out so I cannot configure
>it.
>Maybe it has something to do with screen resolution. The
>netbook is only 1024x600 and I believe ViewNx recommends a
>higher base resolution.

You may well be right, Joe. Resolution here on the primary monitor
is 1680x1050, and on the secondary 1440x900. On the Macbook,
1280x800. Clear images on the Macbook as well.

CaptureNX2 requires 1024x768 absolute minimum resolution
to work properly. Good luck.

Where there is perhaps a province in which the photograph can tell us
nothing more than what we see with our own eyes, there is another in
which it proves to us how little our eyes permit us to see.
____Dorothea Lange

http://gallery.me.com/freewheeler
http://freewheeler10.blogspot.com/

  

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