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Nikon movie files unusable

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PerroneFord Registered since 07th Apr 2011
Sun 26-May-13 03:46 AM
>Perrone - Firstly I must thank you for your informative and
>rational reply. I asked this on a few forums and as you've
>seen here, it was sending me nuts.

Totally understand. Been there.


>I've actually solved it now,

Good to hear.


>I got this to work by using various installs/over-installs of
>QTA. Installed 1.81 as required, then the latest version
> 3.something) then 1.81 again. Weird, but it works nicely.

Ugh... #### like this is why I abandoned freebie software.


>I'd say the end result is good, I can't tell any difference
>between the original videos and the transcoded DNxHD ones, but
>crucially they now import into Premiere and they work well -
>nice and smooth, way better than AVI files I've used in the
>past.

DNxHD is one of the best editing codecs on the planet. And one of VERY few that can roundtrip between PC and Apple without color shift. Practically EVERYTHING else shifts gamma. Not a concern for you most likely, but was a HUGE concern for me when I was cutting and color grading films since I was a PC user and was usually working with editors using Final Cut on a Mac.


>I still suffer a little when applying heavy effects such as
>Magic Bullet Looks, but that's a limit of my computer, I do
>plan to upgrade at some point soon.

That's why I have hot nVidia Quadro's in my desktop and laptop. MBL is a resource HOG.

>So to reply to your points (in no specific order):
>
>1. Yes, I used the latest version of the DNxHD codec.

Good.

>2. Was unsure about using 24 or 23.976, but I used 23.976 as
>this is what the original frame-rate of the video is.

Correct call on your part. It's not a BIG deal unless you need to go to broadcast.

>3. What would you recommend instead of the K-Lite codec pack?
>I know it's not exactly pro, but it's always been one of the
>first things I've installed on a new computer or fresh windows
>install because it just plays everything. Like I say, it
>played the source files from my camera when Premiere and
>Streamclip couldn't. In short, I want to be able to just play
>files in a no-frills media player.

I don't install ANY packs. I simply install the codecs required as needed, and direct from the company that makes them. Generally, that's Cineform, DNxHD, and the codec from whatever company made the camera. I have Sony, Canon, Nikon, and Panasonic cameras, and codecs loaded for each.


>4. What would you recommend I use to transcode these videos?
>Given Streamclip now works, would you say I stick with it or
>leave it? What settings should I use?

I use Sorenson Squeeze because it comes bundled with Avid, but it's EXCELLENT. I haven't kept up with the free stuff in a long time. I would imagine something similar would come with Premiere these days if you get the suite.

>Your advice is very helpful and you clearly know what you're
>doing. I'm more than happy/willing to uninstall K-Lite, QTA,
>Quicktime, iTunes, whatever, and start from scratch to get
>this working properly.

If it's working, leave well enough alone until you have a week or two to play. No point tempting fate twice.


>Finally, would you say that once I do get an upgraded system
>and Premiere CS6 (meaning I can just edit with the source
>files), would you say it is totally pointless to transcode to
>a "post" format like DNxHD? Does no-one use DNxHD or
>Prores anymore?

Transcoding to a post source is important depending on what you are doing. If you are multi-tracking, layering effects, etc., yes transcode. If you are doing quick in/outs and some splicing, I wouldn't bother. Avid let's me cut native VERY quickly and I usually do that unless I am doing something complex. The other thing Avid will do is let me begin my edits on the native format while doing DNxHD conversions in the background or overnight. That's a heck of a nice feature. Perhaps CS6 has something similar. I don't know the current state of Pro Res because I don't use FCP and likely never will even though I am Mac based at home now. I have Avid at home and at work so that's what I will keep using.


>Thank you again for your replies and taking the time to help
>me.

Making the jump to video is HARD. There's a ton of stuff, and sometimes you don't know what you don't know. Feel free to ping me privately in the future if you like. If I don't know the answer, I can probably point you to a resource to get you a quick, professional answer.

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