Hi Russ, I also am one of your fans and found your blog on bounce lighting to be extremely helpful. I'm the guy who, in another forum, was having problems getting yellow skin tones with SB800 bounce flash. Using your suggestions and one other, helped solve my problem. The first being: 1) set flash to iTTL/FP to help seperate flash system from camera 2) set camera to manual 3) use a higher shutter speed - 1/125 sec in my case, to minimise influence of ambient light. 4) Use the orange gel over the flash to help take out possible yellow skin tones. 5) And my own idea (sort of) turn the flash head to 90 degrees with orange gel in place, with expodisc over the lens and take a custom reading off the ceiling. "whala" (I'm sure this is spelled wrong) Perfect bounce lighting, great natural skin tones. I may never use available light in these situations again! Thanks again Russ. You saved me much time and effort with your suggestions. Happy Holidays to you and your family!