I love my D300 and have been impatiently waiting on either a D400 or a D700 replacement and it appears that the D400 is a far far off dream and no idea when the D800 will be replaced. I do a little bit of pro work but it is mostly for my own enjoyment. I shoot a bit of everything: Travel, wildlife, landscapes, people and events (school events with poor lighting) and some sports. In a perfect world I would have a D4 but the money is not there. I do have a fair bit of FX glass and updated my computer 2 months ago to one that is screaming fast so I will be ok there I think. So is it worth it to save $300 to $400 on a good used unit from B&H or KEH? My neighbor stepped up from a D300 to D800 and the leap in IQ has been HUGE. Thoughts appreciated.
#1. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 0
Lake Elmo, US
No two ways about it, there are some sweet deals out there in used gear if you take your time and manage the "due diligence"
In my experience though Alicia, only you can determine the savings that makes it worthwhile to go used over new with bodies. That is because you really don't know the history of the unit....mistreated, dropped etc. Plus, things like shutter count, cosmetics etc affect value greatly. Lenses for me are a different story as they really don't "age" like a camera body. A good lens today is probably a good lens in 5 years.
Only you can decide the economics of this....whether $300-400 is worth it to go used.
#3. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 0
I agree with Rick. Only you can determine value. How much is the peace of mind of a one year warranty worth to you. I think KEH has extended their warranty on used gear to 6 months if I remember correctly. So what is an additional 6 months of warranty and no wear and tear worth to you? If it equals the difference in price buy the used body and don't look back. If not, buy a new body and don't look back.
#7. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 6 Thu 19-Sep-13 02:46 AM by audiophileman2002
As previously mentioned, a Nikon refurbished from Cameta with one year warranty would be a good alternative. Roberts Camera is also selling @ eBay a Nikon refurbished for the same price as Cameta but only 6 mons. warranty. I hesitated when I purchased my Nikon refurbished D800 from Adorama last winter for $2,300. When I got it, the shutter count was only 210 actuations. Looks like brand new when I got it. Only difference is the box, it came in a Nikon gray refurbished box. Otherwise, everything is the same. Incidentally, mine came with only 3 months Nikon warranty but never had any problem. Furthermore, I've noticed prices drop during the winter if you can wait. I bought my D700 brand new about 4 years ago from Adorama for $2,400 when it was normally selling for $2,700. After the winter the price went back to $2,700. All the best in your purchase.
#9. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 8 Thu 19-Sep-13 02:57 AM by audiophileman2002
Not pre-order. Watch out for it around Christmas time. That's when the big camera stores usually put a nice sale. I booked the two cameras on line & was shipped the following day. Since I live in MD which is literally next to NJ where Adorama ships, I got it the day after they shipped. I've been noticing the past few years that camera prices somehow drop over winter, not usually the lenses unless it comes as a Nikon promo like the D600 with the 24-85 last winter if I recall right sold for around $1900. Right after winter the price was the same except without lens. Furthermore, Bill Me Later may have another promo this winter like last winter, anything above $900 can be paid in 18 mons. interest free. Just found the receipt of the D800 I purchased. It was dated 1/3/13.
#11. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 0
What sets the D800 apart from other used cameras, IMO, is the left-focus issue with early units. The problem seems to have been corrected in more recent production runs. Presumably a Nikon-reconditioned D800 will have had this checked and corrected as necessary. (Do others "recondition" cameras?) But for used/not reconditioned, I think there is an additional risk that the camera might need to go back for repair, unless this has been done or was not needed. Personally, I would feel more comfortable getting a used D800 if it had had the left-focus problem, and was accompanied by a copy of the repair order. Be certain that any seller's warranty would cover such necessary repair work.
#13. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 4
I've bought used glass from KEH multiple times, never had a problem. That said, glass is glass, bodies are a different story. While I've never heard of anyone having a customer service problem with them I'd suggest due diligence and a careful review of their return policy.
As someone mentioned, you might get a body with the left-AF issue, I'm sure they would take a return but you have to consider if you want to risk the time and effort involved.
I'd be more inclined to just check up on the Nikon Store Outlet and buy refurbished. They don't show any in stock right now but if you make a daily routine of checking early in the morning one will show up sooner or later. There you can save $400 off the Amazon price and have an assurance the camera was at least thoroughly checked out and repaired/adjusted.
Personally, I'd pony up the $300 and buy new, that 10% you save up front might turn around and bite you if a major subsystem goes toes up 9 months down the road. I've only bought one used camera and that was from a close friend. God only knows what you'll get from a dealer, it might be a great body from someone who used it lightly or it could be someone's problem they were glad to dump off at a loss.
BTW, don't give up on the D400: I predict an announcement on October 21, a day after the return period expires on the D7100 I ordered yesterday from Amazon.
Best of luck whichever way you go. The D800 is a great camera, wouldn't trade mine for the world! (OK, maybe I exaggerate)
#14. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 0
bought a Nikon refurbished d800 (the only way i'd buy a used camera) in March or April from Adorama...no left sided focus issue, unbelievable camera and excellent $$ value (also bought a refurbished 24-70 f2.8 which almost never leaves the camera)....all great values, though with limited warranties....if you've gotten this far in your thinking, take the plunge based upon your wallet and comfort level....i've not regretted mine... mark www.broadwallphotography.com
#15. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 0
I sold a D800 on eBay five months after I bought it. It had about 10,000 actuations, but appeared like new. I sold it because I decided to switch to a D800e.
The buyer was perfectly happy with the camera when he received it...and he is a pro shooter in NYC. I had had the left side AF issue fixed by Nikon while I owned it.
You can get good gear on eBay, but the risk is higher than buying a Nikon refurbished unit. One person's definition of "mint" may not be the same as yours.
I bought a 70-180mm micro on eBay six months ago. It was described by the seller as mint condition. When I received it, it did look mint. However, within a few months I noticed the zoom was getting less than smooth. I finally sent it in to Nikon for a cleanup/tuneup. It now works perfectly, but it did cost me $275 to get there.
Based on this experience and having bought a refurbished D300 from Adorama at one point (it was like a new camera), I agree with others here. I would only buy a refurbished unit if I was going to buy used to reduce the risks.
#18. "RE: New vs Used D800?" In response to Reply # 17
Caution: I looked at a refurb lens on the Nikon Store site. On the surface it looked like a good buy -- until at check out they started adding sales tax and shipping. You can skirt both by buying new from a reputable online source -- B&H, Adorama, etc. Based on the known issues with the D800/E family (focus issues) and cost, I bought tow of them new, with extended Nikon warranties. The $2700 cost is just too much to take too many risks on, and I now have 3 years of Nikon guarantees. Maybe I'm paranoid -- but that's just me.