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V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?

nwcs

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nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006
Wed 24-Oct-12 12:27 PM

It's been around a year and Nikon has finally updated both the V1 and J1. So it seems a good time for this poll. Are you planning on upgrading your existing body? Buy into the 1 series now? Or are you still considering the system?

Poll result (55 votes)
Buy V2
(9 votes)Vote
Buy J2
(0 votes)Vote
Upgrade to V2
(2 votes)Vote
Upgrade to J2
(1 votes)Vote
Staying with current
(32 votes)Vote
Still considering Nikon 1
(11 votes)Vote

  

Covey22

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#1. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

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Wed 24-Oct-12 01:37 PM

I'll stay with what I've got. I'm actually going to save my pennies for the 32mm (85mm equivalent), that plus the 10mm gives a nice range of primes. I'm on the fence about the 18mm, but if the price is right, add that and build a nice Three Kings setup in CX.

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nwcs

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#2. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 1

nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006
Wed 24-Oct-12 02:47 PM

I really like the new features of the V2 but the main reason I'm not upgrading is that it's a bit bulkier and the different battery. Was really disappointed with the battery choice. But it's nice to see Nikon adding some real strong features to the V2.

glennaa11

Arlington, US
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#3. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

glennaa11 Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Aug 2004
Wed 24-Oct-12 04:07 PM

Not sure that "finally" is the right characterization since the originals have only been around for a year or so. Do we really need an updated body sooner than that?

For now I will stick with what I have and consider lenses I think. The limitations of the V1 are not so annoying to me personally. The V2 has a couple of interesting features. But unless they were will to charge $500 or less for the body I see no reason to upgrade at this point.

In a year the V3 will "finally" be out with even more changes.

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Neuritis

Livonia, US
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#4. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 3

Neuritis Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Apr 2007
Wed 24-Oct-12 04:16 PM

I agree. When the price drops I might get it. I got the V1 when it came out. It's just too soon and I want my choice to be between the V3 and V2.

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kenuck

Burnaby, CA
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#5. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

kenuck Silver Member Nikonian since 03rd Nov 2008
Wed 24-Oct-12 06:33 PM

As I got a V1 in August it's a bit early for me to consider a change and I find the V1's ergonomics not too irksome. Franiec grip helped, though I think the V2's grip looks like what it should have been in the first place. New control layout looks good. I'm a bit disappointed that they caved to the push for more megapixels. Noise and diffraction are already issues and this will only be worse. Built-in flash will be handy. Generally I like it, but not enough to upgrade just yet.

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jpFoto

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#6. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

jpFoto Registered since 25th Jun 2010
Thu 25-Oct-12 09:57 PM | edited Thu 25-Oct-12 10:06 PM by jpFoto

I just voted for "Buy V2." The more that I look at it the more that I like it. I'm anxious to see some of the reviews and particularly the DXO Mark scores. If the sensor has a reasonably good high ISO rating, I'm in. I don't expect 6400 to be great, but I would settle for a good rating at 1600. If that's the case, and the other scores are good then I would even consider buying the FT-1.

You might have a hard time getting any accurate results with this poll since a lot of us have never even held a Nikon 1. It might take some reviews from people like Tom Hogan to get any of us interested, but it looks like Nikon may have been reading some of the V1 reviews. I think that he called the V1 a 90 pound weakling. I'm rooting for them and hope that the V2 is aimed at serious photographers. And, one last thought. If Nikon can do to this 14 mp sensor what they did to the D3200 24 mp sensor, this camera should be a real winner. I'm not getting my hopes up too high, but I would love to see it.

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JonK

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#7. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

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Thu 25-Oct-12 11:39 PM

The V2 sounds like an improvement in many ways, assuming that noise at 6400 is the same as noise at 3200 on the V1. The ergonomics look better. The built-in flash is nice.

But they still did not program bracketing, so no true HDR bursts. And that's the one feature I really wanted.

I'll pass.

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buckreynolds

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#8. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

buckreynolds Registered since 11th Jan 2009
Fri 26-Oct-12 12:22 AM

I'm really enjoying the V1. I don't feel any upgrade fever since the V2 improvements, while useful, do not render the V1 obsolete. It still works well as a little, quiet, camera that can take Nikon DSLR lenses.The extra cost of upgrading is better invested in another lens.

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Drbee

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#9. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Drbee Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Aug 2004
Fri 26-Oct-12 01:27 AM

I'm kind of "hog-tied" right now. I just bought a X10 for my small camera. I was reluctant to start another interchangeable lens kit. I'm still waiting to see how the lens system is going to play out. My interest are in a fast high-contrast 28mm or 35mm equivalent. The lenses will decide if I buy one.

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#10. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

TomCurious Registered since 03rd Jan 2007
Fri 26-Oct-12 04:42 AM

It's good that Nikon upgrades the line, but I'm not that impressed with the improvements of the V2 over the V1, so I will stay with my V1. Also, the V1 shares it's battery with my D800, while the V2 got a new, lower capacity battery.

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Speedybee

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#11. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 10

Speedybee Registered since 29th Jun 2012
Fri 26-Oct-12 07:06 AM

I will also stay with my V1. Nikon seem to have addressed some of the irritating shortcomings with the V2 but I would normally try to wait for the next but one evolution when upgrading. The V1 still does what I bought it for very well and is slightly less bulky. I really can't understand all the, in my opinion, unwarranted criticism of the 1 system.

RRRoger

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#12. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 11

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Fri 26-Oct-12 01:31 PM | edited Fri 26-Oct-12 01:35 PM by RRRoger

I don't consider a lower capacity battery an upgrade.
I have a V1, D7000, D600, and D800 with the En-El 15.
10MP is plenty for the stills I use it for
and 14 will not be better for Video.

I will wait for the V3 or mirrorless DSLR and then see.

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CyprusMike

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#13. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 12

CyprusMike Registered since 19th Aug 2012
Fri 26-Oct-12 01:58 PM

No chance of upgrading. I love my V1 and it does all I ask of it. Why would I want to fork out £799 for a minor feature upgrade and less battery life? That makes no sense at all...

On the other hand, I wish Nikon would get their finger out with a decent wide angle lens for the 1 Series. My trusty old 17-35 is my D700's best friend - and usually at the 17 end. Working with a 27mm equivalent on the V1 is a real handicap from time to time.

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gbheron

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gbheron Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 22nd Apr 2007
Fri 26-Oct-12 03:47 PM

Good morning, Neil,

I will certainly upgrade to the V2 but will also keep my V1. I love the addition of focus tracking to the V2. The biggest disappointment was the failure to include a real speedlight hot shoe. It is also unfortunate they had to abandon the more robust battery of the V1.

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Vox Sciurorum

Newton, US
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#15. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Vox Sciurorum Registered since 18th Oct 2007
Fri 26-Oct-12 03:49 PM

I'm not planning to sink more money into the system. Buying the V1 was a mistake, but not the most expensive mistake I've made.

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#16. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 26-Oct-12 11:05 PM

I just clicked buy V2, but would really say I am considering it. I am thinking about this system as a travel kit instead of hauling my D700 and lenses, but I am concerned about loss of image quality. I will waite to see what the experts say about the camera. The V2 does look like an improvement over the V1 and as I don't only any Nikon 1 system a V2 would be a logical choice if I drop the hammer. Otherwise I will continue to haul my D700 when I travel and torture my aging body.

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glennaa11

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#17. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 16

glennaa11 Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Aug 2004
Sat 27-Oct-12 02:17 AM

Depending on how much money you have to spend, you can get V1 kits cheap these days.

And don't worry too much about image quality. I think the system works quite well for travel. Of course it depends somewhat on your subject matter. But the V1 has plenty of image quality for most purposes. I printed a couple of shots from the V1 at letter size and 12x18 and they are really fantastic. As with any camera, the most important thing is the photographer and the subject.

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KnightPhoto

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#18. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

KnightPhoto Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006
Sat 27-Oct-12 04:15 AM

I'm on the fence about the V2. I'd like to focus on the 50mm FOV more or less for sure and perhaps the 85mm FOV lenses.

The V2 battery has me disappointed to put it mildly. Lack of bracketing, hmmm they're still missing that, makes zero sense. And while we're at it, my buddies iPhone does a killer scan and panorama, all processing in-phone, very neat!

I like my little V1 and I use it for travel a lot. The f/1.8 and f/1.2 lenses ought to help a lot in keeping ISO to a decent range, minimizing noise and maximizing dynamic range.

"Real" 15fps with AF, RAW, and no Program exposure limitation (if I have all this correct) has got me tempted. I like that the V2 got an Auto-ISO 1600 option.

Haven't heard anywhere whether they delivered on providing an Auto-ISO minimum shutter speed feature but I won't get my hopes up I guess.

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#19. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

wcguy Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Nov 2009
Sat 27-Oct-12 05:25 PM

Wanted to upgrade, but differences on the V2 are not big enough to warrant spending another $800 to up grade to that camera,will put money into better lenses eventually(hopefully fast wide and fast zooms).My V1 system will do fine until a V3 comes out.Will be putting the $800.00 towards the RX1 to go with my V1 system for traveling and biking.With these wonderful small systems are getting better by the day , sadly my D700 system will be used less and less, but will not do away with it.Nikon needs to get those fast primes and fast zoom lenses out for the N1 system, there are many mini systems moving in leaps and bounds making it hard on loyal Nikonians.




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nwcs

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#20. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 15

nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006
Sat 27-Oct-12 10:58 PM

Why do you think it was a mistake?

tomlawone

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#21. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 19

tomlawone Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Mar 2011
Sun 28-Oct-12 10:54 PM | edited Mon 29-Oct-12 01:30 AM by tomlawone

I got the $399 deal from Adorama for a V1 and 10-30 lens. Then I got an FT1 from a fellow Nikonian. I was going to send the V1 back until the battery issue came up with the V2. I needed a second battery for my D800 that would cost about $60. I was going to buy the battery anyway, so in my mind the V1 cost $340. Too inexpensive to send back. So, the V1 stays for a while. I will pair it with my Nikon 70-300 VR for an easy-to-carry wildlife lens and use it to maybe 200mm with that lens. When the new 70-200 f/4 VR comes out and (hopefully) comes down a bit in price, that new lens will take the 70-300's place.

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Jamy1946

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#22. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Jamy1946 Gold Member Nikonian since 09th Aug 2011
Tue 30-Oct-12 03:30 AM

I sold my V1 and al... Tired of the limitations of the FT1.

If Nikon decides to "free" the FT1, I'll get aV2 to put my 300 AF-S f/4

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nwcs

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#23. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 22

nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006
Tue 30-Oct-12 04:07 PM

The AF-C mode in particular or just the center focus? I'm just curious what the limitation was for you.

kenuck

Burnaby, CA
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#24. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 5

kenuck Silver Member Nikonian since 03rd Nov 2008
Thu 01-Nov-12 02:54 AM | edited Thu 01-Nov-12 02:56 AM by kenuck

My wife and I are off to Thailand this week. Packed the V1 and my two 1 series lenses, flash etc...whole package with bag only 3.5 lb (doesn't seem right somehow)

I convinced my wife to leave her Sony R1 at home to try out the V1 while we travel - if she likes it, she'll get the V1 and I'll get a V2 All part of my plan - if it works, I'll change my upgrade vote from not now to a "Buy now" lol.

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critidoc

Kingsville, US
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#25. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 23

critidoc Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Feb 2007
Fri 09-Nov-12 09:12 AM

I would upgrade my V1 if the V2 would allow full AF function with my tele lenses. Would be nice to get 15 fps with motion tracking in afc for BIF.

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King Nothing

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#26. "RE: V2 and J2 are now out. Will you buy or upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 22

King Nothing Gold Member Nikonian since 31st Dec 2011
Fri 09-Nov-12 07:52 PM

I sold mine too but it was more than just the FT1 that did it. I got frustrated with the limitations of the whole system. No normal hot shoe meant that I couldn't use my flashes and would have to buy a special one just for it. And when Nikon finally started announcing the updates it was the last straw for me. A whole year later and all they had was another slow zoom, some minor updates to the bodies, and a somewhat fast normal prime wasn't enough for me. Since m4/3 has more of what I want in a small camera system it made the decision easy.

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