ISO 6400 looks great, granted these shots are not taken in ISO 6400 lighting so kind of hard to compare to the D700/D3 family. If the quality carries over it would be as good or nearly as good imo. Certainly very impressive and makes me hopeful that my wish to have the current FF high ISO performance (or close there to) in DX format to at least ISO 6400 will be a reality. Only another month or so until delivery!!
The 25,600 samples all look terrible as I expected, it is the 'a bad photograph is better than no photograph" setting. Even with some cleaning up they are usable as web sized photos only...or for taking evidence shots of 'big foot'.
#2. "RE: D7000 High ISO! finally!" In response to Reply # 1 Sat 25-Sep-10 02:54 PM by KnightPhoto
I wish the shooter would have set Incandescent or custom white balance, kind of painful to look at; as is the subject motion blur and possible slight underexposure.
So mentally trying to eliminate all those variables to look at noise, forget about looking at detail (due to motion), and dynamic range is a little difficult.
At least they are full size jpgs. I actually am thinking the camera is somewhat promising looking at these. The ISO1600 looked very very good to me. Here's hoping!
BTW Thom Hogan has now posted some thoughts on the D7000 and Photokina in general. He seems pretty hopeful too.
I also loaded a RAW image but it would not open in Capture NX 2.2.5 although I could view it in View NX 2.
BTW I am still a little bit on the fence about ISO3200. I've only seen this Italian one and the guy who did the video and there was definitely noise in the shadows (so I don't think it meets D700). Still it looked very good for a DX camera, but I'll need to see much more.
#3. "RE: D7000 High ISO! finally!" In response to Reply # 2
>BTW I am still a little bit on the fence about ISO3200. I've >only seen this Italian one and the guy who did the video and >there was definitely noise in the shadows (so I don't think it >meets D700). Still it looked very good for a DX camera, but >I'll need to see much more.
Although I don't shoot a D700, I have seen tons of ISO3200 photos from it with noticeable noise in the shadows. See for instance:
#4. "RE: D7000 High ISO! finally!" In response to Reply # 3
I've owned and used plenty of dslr bodies and can tell you the differences I see between fx and dx noise. Fx sensors in my opinion exhibit far more pleasant film grain-like noise, whereas dx mushes pixels together to try and hide noise, even with NR off. The detail the fx sensor captures at nearly all iso values is pretty amazing. I'm Impressed so far with the samples from the d7000, though still notice characteristics of a cropped sensor.
I'm curious to see a comparison done against Althea canon 1d mkiv or 7d (both cropped sensors)
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#5. "RE: D7000 High ISO! finally!" In response to Reply # 4
>I've owned and used plenty of dslr bodies and can tell you >the differences I see between fx and dx noise.
It's not really about the format of the sensor - it's about the size of the photosites and the technology used. If there were a DX camera with a 5MP sensor using same-generation hardware and firmware as the D700, the two should have pretty much the same noise performance.
#8. "RE: D7000 High ISO! finally!" In response to Reply # 0
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We will need to wait for some better tests and head-to-head comparisons against other cameras. But if indeed a DX sensor from 2010 will have caught up with an FX sensor from 2007 in high ISO performance (and even having a few more MP), it would be quite an achievement. Few people back in 2007 would have expected that. I'm looking forward to what the next FX sensor will bring.