#1. "Did you do all of the right things to max the buffer Bill?" In response to Reply # 0 Fri 15-Mar-13 01:28 AM by Jim Pearce
Turn off auto-ISO, long exposure NR, auto D-lighting, etc.? Did you try 12 bit lossless? I'd be interested in buffer clearing times and fps after the buffer is full with 12 bit lossless with these cards. I have the cards, but alas no camera in sight as yet.
#2. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 0
Bill I agree about build - very stout feeling and grip for me is better than on the D7000. I was focussing on a couple of my dogs playing in the house and it locks on very fast. Not very scientific I know but as first impressions go this is a very well put together machine.
Probably nicest surprise is the brilliant monitor display - very huge improvement over the D300 and D300s.
#3. "RE: Did you do all of the right things to max the buffer Bill?" In response to Reply # 1
>Turn off auto-ISO, long exposure NR, auto D-lighting, etc.? >Did you try 12 bit lossless? I'd be interested in buffer >clearing times and fps after the buffer is full with 12 bit >lossless with these cards. I have the cards, but alas no >camera in sight as yet.
Set as you suggested, I'm hearing about 7 frames before things slow down.
Now, keeping in mind, we're talking a better AF system, at higher resolution. Does this mean more keepers per burst?
The AF feels VERY fast. Still, I don't think there's going to be any "a-ha" moment as it pertains to the buffer. It is what it is.
Perhaps at 1.3 mode, things change (and that may make sense, because you still get 15mp, and BIF would benefit from longer reach).
When the sun comes up, I plan to try some shots that will tell me if I've got what I need/want. I'm pretty sure I do.
Truth is, I never shot the D7000 in Ch mode for more than 4 or 5 shots...
#7. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 5
Sheboygan Falls, US
These look great to me but my eyes are 65 years old now and not quite like they used to be. I think I'm going to like my new Nikon D7100 when it gets here from B&H. I don't think I will regret selling my old Nikon D7000 now. Please post more pictures when you get a chance. I guess Moose Peterson was right about this camera.
#9. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 0
I wasn't able to get out with my D7100 but I was setting up the camera in my usual manner. What happened to "MY MENU"? I am dissapointed that instead of having "MY MENU", I find "RECENT SETTINGS". That means no longer can I program the function button to the top most item in My Menu. That doesn't have me jumping for joy. Every other body I've owned had that feature. I'm ready for a firmware update.
I'm heading out this morning at first light to look for some eagles.
#11. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 10 Fri 15-Mar-13 02:38 PM by BrianNK
I'll start the "things i don't like" list..
1) front sub-command dial. There is a larger 'lip' on the grip that makes getting to that dial..... different . It will probably make it harder to accidently turn, but its going to take some getting used to.
2) Cheap feeling main command dial on the back. It seems to be the exact dial used on the D600... i liked the D7000 one better.
3) Every time i go to format my cards i hit the frick'n move-record button and not the metering button (metering + delete button = quick format). I've done that about 10 times now.. still not getting used to having that record button there.
(Note: all are very minor.. and in the long run will probably be an advantage over the D7000 )
Things i like that haven't been mentioned...
The AE/AF-L button on the back is moved over the the right. If you use 'back button focusing' and make this button your AF-ON you no longer will have a finger in your eye when you shoot!!!!
#12. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 11 Fri 15-Mar-13 06:54 PM by billD80
The D7100 seems to expose similar to my D200. It manages to keep from blowing highlights, still retaining good shadow detail.
I think levels of sharpness will surely be related to the glass and the technique... This camera is capable of great detail.
The focus seems almost instantaneous.
Here's a grab shot (and a tight crop), Nikon 300 @ f4.5, hand-held, 1/640th (I believe) on a house down the street. No PP done, just conversion to JPEG and cropped. The sharpness setting is on the factory default.
Just an FYI, the cement detail is something I'd never seen with prior cameras.
The last image is a close crop on a subject where highlights could easily have been blown, and they're not...
#15. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 14
I, too, am impressed. I just ripped off a few with a 70-200 and a 16-85, all in the 1.3 crop mode. With minimal camera tweaking, I'm seeing really really good (for me) exposure and acuity. Then I went to 1.5 mode, shoot some fine patterned mesh. Hmm I think I see a touch of moire. But the camera itself seems even more solid then the d7000, fits my hand better (small hands) and I think Nikon nailed the ergonomics.
#16. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 15
I am thinking of getting this camera to replace my D90, which i love. I have gotten into birds and want to know about the 1/3 crop. will the picture come out better when you use that in camera than cropping on the computer.
#17. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 16
>I am thinking of getting this camera to replace my D90, which >i love. I have gotten into birds and want to know about the >1/3 crop. will the picture come out better when you use that >in camera than cropping on the computer.
My hunch is, using the 1.3 crop mode enables the camera to shoot and store more FPS because the files are smaller...
BUT, if FPS wasn't on the table, and we were just comparing 1 cropped DX frame with 1 in-camera 1.3 frame, well, that's a great question...
#18. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 10
Victor, You are correct. My camera came with Recent Settings as the default option, but there is a "Choose Tab" which toggles it to "My Menu". Thanks for the heads up. I didn't take the time to open the book. Now that I've loaded the manual to my iPad, I'll be digging into it further.
#19. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 0
I have to say, I am really going to enjoy having the "i" button. It provides very quick access to many of the menu items which can all be seen in one view. I can toggle through;
DX or 1.3x Crop Image area High ISO NR Active D Lighting in camera HDR Assign Preview button Assign Fn button Assign AE/AF button Picture Control Long Exposure NR Remote Mode functions
Kudos to Nikon for this feature. Access to more features than I'll use, but many I like. On my D90 I always assigned the Fn button for Commander mode, but with the D600, I use Virtual Horizon. Now I can easily go back and forth without diving into the menu system.
#22. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 20
egg harbor twp, US
I haven't made my mind up as yet Several things I am wondering about On all of my other Nikons I can turn on the "grid lines" in the view finder does the d7100 have feature Also I do architectural photography is why I'm asking about grid lines And because I also shoot interiors I use HDR does any one find that 5 exposures are sufficient as I generally bracket 7 with a 1 stop difference Thanks and as time and comments continue we will all learn more
#23. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 22
>I haven't made my mind up as yet >Several things I am wondering about >On all of my other Nikons I can turn on the "grid >lines" in the view finder does the d7100 have feature >Also I do architectural > photography is why I'm asking about grid lines >And because I also shoot interiors I use HDR does any one find >that 5 exposures are sufficient as I generally bracket 7 with >a 1 stop difference > Thanks and as time and comments continue we will all learn >more
Yes, the grid feature is there.
For HDR, I use 3 exposures, with extra care on the high or low side, depending on the scene. Here are two done this way, converted from RAW to JPEG, then imported into PhotoMatix:
#24. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 23
egg harbor twp, US
Thanks Looks like I'm going for the D7100 body Any concerns wih moire with out the AA filter on the sensor Photos look nice and crisp What lens are you using For exterior I am using the 24PC and the 14 inside Again thanks
#25. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 24 Sat 16-Mar-13 03:51 PM by billD80
>Thanks >Looks like I'm going for the D7100 body >Any concerns wih moire with out the AA filter on the sensor >Photos look nice and crisp >What lens are you using >For exterior I am using the 24PC and the 14 inside >Again thanks > > The shots were done on a D7000. I'm not concerned about moire.
On these images I used a Sigma 8-16mm top one at 9.5mm and the church intereior at 8mm.
#27. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 0
Here's my first bird image out of D7100. (Large Fine jpeg) Subject is not as close as I'd like (approx. 35 feet) this is about a 35% crop of original. However after crop, still left a 5mb file. Shot without enhancements, no in camera sharpening etc.
Nikon D7100, Aperture Priority, ISO 1000, 0EV, 1/640 sec., Nikkor 500P @f11, Induro AT413 tripod and BHD3 ball head.
#33. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 16
>will the picture come out better when you use that >in camera than cropping on the computer.
Not sure if you'll get better results at DX, but I suspect you're correct. I'll have to test. But having the AF sensors fill the frame may be a benefit. Although the viewfinder still shows the DX frame, the 1.3x gives you a guide for the frame like a point and shoot. (I assume more accuracy, tho)
#34. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 29
Richmond Hill, CA
The quality of the pics from this camera is quite impressive. Glad I have mine on preorder. Not released in Canada for another week. Obviously, I am watching the first impressions with great interest. However, I have not seen any comments about the quality of glass on the back screen. Nikon obviously felt a cover was not necessary for this camera. I don't have a protector for my iPad or BBerry. Wondering if it is similar quality glass.
Morty Nikon D7100; Nikkor lenses 10-24mm, 16-85mm, 70-300mm "The more I learn, the less I know."
#35. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 34
Nikon obviously >felt a cover was not necessary for this camera. I don't have a >protector for my iPad or BBerry. Wondering if it is similar >quality glass. >
Nikon would be daft to put something less than Gorilla style glass on a camera they leave unprotected. So, I'm with you. I think they didn't believe a cover would be necessary given the sturdy character of what's installed.
#38. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 37
Monterey Bay, US
I got my D7100 Friday Yesterday those Mercury or Sodium vapor lights did their trick. I had the usual problems. The D600 with Automatic WB handled it better even with the inferior? (39pt CAM4800) AF and Metering. My best D7100 photos were with Portrait settings + more sharpening. The 1/3 crop mode works really well. With such limited use, I would say the D7100 is best for telescopic stills (espcially birds). I will continue to use my D600 and D800 for Landscapes and anything wide.
Today I shot my first indoor Church Videos. Again I had some trouble with white ballance. This time under florescent lights. The FullTime AutoFocus works but unless you want to edit out all the focusing, turn it off. I was surprised to see all the info moved over to my external monitor. The D800 leaves it on the LCD. Next week I will test the "clean" HDMI out when I get my HyperDeck recorder back.
#40. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 27
Sheboygan Falls, US
>Here's my first bird image out of D7100. (Large Fine jpeg) >Subject is not as close as I'd like (approx. 35 feet) this is >about a 35% crop of original. However after crop, still left a >5mb file. >Shot without enhancements, no in camera sharpening etc. > >Al > >Nikon D7100, Aperture Priority, ISO 1000, 0EV, 1/640 sec., >Nikkor 500P @f11, Induro AT413 tripod and BHD3 ball head. > > > > >Additional crop to show detail > > >
This bird looks very good. I checked UPS and now my Nikon D 7100 will be here on Tuesday instead of Wed. So I can't wait for that. Has anybody used a Tamron 17-50 mm f/2.8 VC?
#43. "Definitely not as sharp..." In response to Reply # 42
I haven't used it - I have the old screwdriver - but dxomark and Photozone have tested both. Apparently the Sigma 17-50 OS is sharper, but there are some reports of Sigma OS lenses not working properly with the D7100.
I read through, are those AF issues, or something else going on?
The OP on that thread seems to want the D7100 to do what the D7000, and my D200 and D80 never did, with any brand of lenses. It sounds like he's zooming in on an image and trying to rotate the back controller to "sweep" around viewing the image, as opposed to pressing the controller in the direction you want the viewing area to go (which is what he's saying he has to do).
Unless I'm misreading him (which could be), this is normal behavior.
I did test my Sigmas and Tamrons as posted on a new thread, and they're fine (AF/LiveView wise). Perhaps there IS some other compatibility thing that will emerge (though it may be in a feature I never use).
One thing though, the OP on the DPR forum also writes this... "Other than that, the D7100 seems fine. Yes, it's grainy and noisy but also very sharp."
#50. "RE: D7100 and the Aurora Borealis." In response to Reply # 49 Wed 20-Mar-13 12:53 AM by jonmcguffin
So I received my D7100 today and the first thing I did was compare it to the D7000 by running some noise tests. I tried to make it as reasonable apples to apples as I could.
Set both cameras to the following:
JPG Compression = Fine JPG Quality = Optimized for Quality High ISO NR = Normal Active D-Lighting = Off Picture Control = Neutral Colorspace = sRGB
Shot the same subject at ISO 6400, 3200, 1600, & 800 (changed just the shutter speed to match exposure).
Used a tripod, and shot with my Sigma 35mm 1.4 (so I know it's sharp). I have the files to share but don't quite know the best way for me to share them as I can't post them in this forum without an upgraded account.
I'm not seeing any real discernible difference between the two files. I'm looking at them before and after re-sizing the D7100 to match the D7000 16Mb resolution. I can't tell them a part to be frank. The difference would be so minutely small that nobody could possible care and I couldn't say which is actually better than the other.
#56. "RE: D7100 first thoughts..." In response to Reply # 55
I get asked this a lot. Its a Lastolite ezybox for hotshoes 8.5x8.5". Its double diffused. I use it for macro, nice soft wrapping light. Its a bit large and can get in the way but its a marvel. Umbrellas would be too large for my use here, though I have them. The Sb diffusers even stuffed with diffusing material do not come close.
I saw John MacNally use it and he used it for a full length portrait! After watching him go through dozens of lighting solutions this one suited me. I am hoping to get a solution be better able to articulate in front of the camera. If it works I will post it in the Macro discussions.
Like I say most people find it unwieldy but I like it. I hope Lastolite comes up with a double diffused solution that is smalle