#1. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 0 Wed 06-Feb-13 05:43 PM by sfbillm
Santa Fe, US
1. Is it an official Nikon USA import or grey market? If the latter, Nikon USA will not honor the warranty (even a so-called 'international' one) and will not service or repair the camera.
2. Even if official USA, is Overstock an authorized Nikon dealer by Nikon USA. (You can find a list of authorized dealers on the Nikon USA Web site.) I'm not sure if, for the warranty to be valid, you have to buy from an authorized dealer. Others here can address that.
3. If 1. and 2. are O.K., the next thing to check is whether the camera ships with everything that Nikon supplies with the body, or whether it is literally 'body only' - i.e., no battery, strap, charger, etc., all of which they would then charge extra for. You can check B&H to see what's normally included in the box.
"My photos were more interesting before I learned the rules."
#2. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 1
Check the description carefully and look into the warranty, but Overstock.com is a pretty reliable retailer. I have bought other items, not camera equipment, from them in the past with no problem.
With all of the fallout in the bricks and mortar stores, it's no wonder that this stuff is showing up at places that buy out inventory. Some places may also be clearing out excess stock after the holidays.
#6. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 0
That's a sweet price for the D7000 Bill and from the item description tab, includes everything you would normally get in a grey market kit. Best I can do here is around $790 mark, so that's a good deal if they don't charge the earth for shipping.
#7. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 6
I did some further checking on line and there was a lot of negative comments about this group- the main complaints that after you order they make you confirm your order by talking to a sales person who tries to sell you extra stuff, warranties, etc for exuberant prices and if you do not buy these other things they tell you item is on back order etc. So just as I thought was too good to be true.
#8. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 7
I usually find resellerratings.com to be a reliable source of information for various on-line retailers. According to their reviews, the overstockdigital company has been fairly highly rated and is given a good "grade" for resolving problems.
#9. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 8
Avoid Overstock Digital like the plague. I ordered a D7000 for $699 (I know it was too good to be true), got the "verification" call, at which time "John" tried to high-pressure upsell me on overpriced memory cards and replacement batteries. Toward the end of the call he asked if I wouldn't like to "upgrade" to the USA model (i.e. the actual product they advertised) with the magnesium body for $899.
If not out and out fraud, it is certainly very very shady. Check reviews on Yelp. I tried to leave a negative review on the reseller ratings site but would't you know it, the review violated one of their "rules."
And yes, as I am sure they intended, I thought they were affiliated with Overstock.
#10. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 9 Thu 02-Jan-14 09:09 PM by musical
Hi, this thread is one year old, but I would like to chime in. I am in the middle of a bad experience with them and even felt it to be a crime, not not a bad deal, or shady or tricky, but more malicious. Since I almost imagine photography in a spiritual way and as a tool for healing, this one company has been extremely unpleasant. There is also such thing as black market, not just grey, simply as an aside. In the end, my mom age 79 bought a camera worth $1,500 (a J serial number d600) for a final bill of: $3,400.
As lovers of cameras and lenses-- and sometimes we even joke about feeling hopelessly addicted to our camera equipment needs-- my wish is that this company would dim their virtual neon sign yesterday. By the way, my mom suffered emotionally, too. The credit card company, which makes money on any sale from anyone, is not interested in helping. And just one more thing, it is not perfect where someone recommends them, even though that person absolutely undoubtedly is well intentioned, since I have no doubt in my mind about what they are up to at Overstock. They had my mom at her age pegged as "perfect." What they did not know is that she has duel degrees in art history and criminal justice, was a court expert witness in New York and works at the MET fulltime. They also did now know her son would care this much. We're in the middle of all this right now, Christmas, 2013. They might have an all-plastic d800 for under $2,000 since that is what this company told me in one of our 30 conversations after my mom got the bill. Another words, they play serious games and that offended me. If you want a real-life emotional odyssey of an experience while buying your next camera, this is the company for you. I had to learn the hard way, but at least now and feel more wise than ever before. Sincerely and respectfully, jw
#12. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 10
St Petersburg, RU
From experience and watching the evolution of on-line promotion, I recommend only buying from companies you can walk into and shake hands with the owner or one that your best friend or parent uses, any other referral is suspect now. A few years ago, user reviews were not the driving force in sales so they were not yet invaded by fake glowing reviews that has transformed marketing and user impressions of products. Major ad agencies are switching from traditional print and broadcast promotion to web based guerrilla marketing, trying to influence public opinion and sales by spamming forums with "personal" testimonials or bashing a competing product. It is very very effective and costs a fraction of the cost of a single much less effective TV spot. People tend to be very credulous when they think the person writing a review is a real person and is being honest. No, there is too much money at stake to not try to cheat this way. A few years ago the web sites like ResellerRantings were very helpful until they were overtaken by fake accounts of owners and ad agencies boosting reviews and panning competitors. In the old days your book could be a success if someone reviewed it positively and it ended up on the Time Best Seller list. But even that one is no match to what someone with a bunch of gmail accounts can do in a week on Amazon. I read some of the "customer" reviews on ResellerRatings for this company and the wording of some of them sure sounded like the phrasing I read when I detect and uncover spamming on Trip Advisor for which I am a Destination Expert. But even when proven to be fake, the pressure for activity and commissions on such web sites now means they stay on the forums and review comments. Those sites have become so successful in commissions, ads sales and hit income that volume is all that counts and not truthful posts. So, beware of user reviews, assume they are fake and trying to influence you. When a single positive glowing review can account for $50,000 or more in increased sales, there is a lot of incentive to game the system. My rule of thumb is do not buy any photo gear from any place in Brooklyn, Bronx or New Jersey. Their attorney generals ignore hundreds of thousands of complaints files each year by out of state ripped off customers of placed the work just as described above. They offer something incredible low in price but require you do call their salesman who then works up the price by adding a $200 battery that was supposed to be in the box, or a $85 required strap that was also in the box and grey market but you insist on getting the deal as advertised they either charge your card for the whole inflated price or cancel the order. Here is one of several web sites of ripped off customers who gather and track the con artists as they change names and addresses frequently. http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/
I tried to get justice for a elderly relative who fell victim when she spent her entire SS check on a gift for a grand child's graduation, a camera. I really got angry and pursued it. She got a $100 camera for $687, it was used and month late, without original box and junk sold as new. I spent 10 times that trying to put them of business and finally they moved and changed names. The AG's office was useless. Stan St Petersburg Russia
#14. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 13
For us this has gone on since November 20, 2013. We now have tentative word that the investigative unit for the credit card will prevail with the bank for overstock and reverse all charges. We're talking here three thousand dollars. It was a d600 body only, grey market. It's been a painful learning experience. Then once we reverse the charge, the company will have to issue a good letter that I am happy with that they will unconditionally accept the camera back; I would not trust them otherwise. It's all like-new with their packaging right here.
If I had a time machine to go back, I would feel very comfortable buying from the for-sale list here. For someone that can almost afford new Nikon equipment, but yes it is expensive, I would recommend this site as a nice resource. It is interesting that for most of us, photography is not merely an end point. It's not a lucky deal or one lucky picture. It is more of a process, sometimes a healing, and way of experiencing life.
#15. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 13
St Petersburg, RU
It is just as common for faker reviewer to bash a competitor as post glowing reports about their own business. Good or bad reviews are just as likely to be posted for personal profit. Stan St Petersburg Russia
#16. "RE: nikon d 7000 at Overstock" In response to Reply # 15 Sun 05-Jan-14 05:02 AM by LightMeter
Houston, Texas, US
I was looking at Overstockdigital's site. Looks like you can get a D200 for 618usd and a D300 for $1399 or a D800 for 2099-looks fishy to me. Even if I can get something cheaper somewhere else, I usually get it at B&H anyway. That way I can be assured there will be no surprises.
Edited with the following: Just looked some more. You can get a 18-55 VR for a whopping $699-gotta get one of those at that price
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