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oceansurf334

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oceansurf334 Registered since 05th May 2013
Tue 25-Jun-13 02:11 AM

I am using PCS3 and want to shoot raw in my 5200 but I understand that Camera Raw in PCS3 will not handle the NEF format files. Any suggestions or workaround advise to do this .

MEMcD

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#1. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 0

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Tue 25-Jun-13 02:20 AM

Hi Chuck,

Welcome to Nikonians!
You can use Nikon View NX2 to convert the NEF files to TIFF's then open the TIFF's using PCS3.

Best Regards,
Marty

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#2. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 0

pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Tue 25-Jun-13 01:09 PM | edited Wed 26-Jun-13 04:58 PM by pjonesCET

If you go to Adobe's website there is actually a Converter program they have (Which I myself have downloaded) that will convert from NEF to DNG which any CS application can read.

I frequent the Adobe Forums and recently asked why my CS5.5 could not read my 3200. I received information about this converter.

Evidently Adobe has a very low regard for NEF claiming its not a Standard and changes with the direction of the wind. They consider DNG as the gold standard. Adobe thinks it cost too much to maintain RAW updates for Older software when it cost just as much or more to maintain this NEF to DNG converter.

Adobe is just a contraryian outfit. Whose goal in life seems to be, tee off its customers.

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#3. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 2

walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Master Ribbon awarded as a member who has gone beyond technical knowledge to show mastery of the art and science of photography   Nikonian since 05th May 2002
Tue 25-Jun-13 01:23 PM

So, how do Phase One, DxO and other competing companies handle the situation of new camera bodies and NEF formats? Do they update all older versions of their products so that they're always compatible with those new bodies? Do they provide a means of handling newer NEF versions?

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#4. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 3

pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Wed 26-Jun-13 05:17 PM | edited Wed 26-Jun-13 05:47 PM by pjonesCET

Its only Adobe that is the sticking Point. Apple for Mac and I assume Microsoft for Windows, automatically updates Camera Profiles at least once a month to account for new cameras. And the profiles work on any and all software except Adobe software.

I'd like to take a stick to the people at Adobe over stuff like this. Also they have gone to subscription for all their software. Just for me to update Photoshop I've got to spend $100 a Month. Plus I have terrible Internet despite being hooked up to Comcast Cable's best consumer system. And for it to work Adobe Phones home every so often it if it can't phone home You have an expensive paperweight.

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#5. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 4

reserectedmxr Registered since 18th Jun 2013
Wed 26-Jun-13 06:02 PM | edited Wed 26-Jun-13 06:04 PM by reserectedmxr

I have used Adobe for the past 10 years and upgraded as new CS packages have come out, that is up to CS 5. I can say honestly that I am very comfortable with the Adobe software however I would love to find an alternative... I do not like the new subscription based Adobe.

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#6. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 4

briantilley Moderator Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Wed 26-Jun-13 06:17 PM

This isn't the place for a debate about Adobe's practices.

But as Rick points out, it's not just Adobe that do things this way (i.e. when a major update comes along, RAW support for new cameras is not added to older versions. As one example, a user of Phase One's Capture 1 needs version 7 or above to support D5200 NEF's; version 6.4.5 does not handle them.

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#7. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 4

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Wed 26-Jun-13 09:46 PM | edited Wed 26-Jun-13 09:50 PM by walkerr

I'll assume that since you ignored the questions in my post, you're choosing to not answer them. I would suggest you do some research on the statements in your post.

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#8. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 7

pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Fri 28-Jun-13 12:00 AM | edited Fri 28-Jun-13 12:15 AM by pjonesCET

On Mac, Phase One, DxO and other use Raw File information, provided by Apple. (Which Apple updates about once every month or 2.) I can't say about PC but I as assume Microsoft has a similar procedure. I just checked App store and they just uploaded a RAW update file. see attachment.




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This is what is used with software other than Adobe. Phase One, and DxO and so on I hope this answers.

here is the link to the RAW to DNG Converter it has info for Mac/ PC

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/search/index.cfm?term=Raw+to+DNG+Convereter&loc=en_us&siteSection=support.html%3Fpromoid%3DKAWQK

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

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#9. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 8

walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Master Ribbon awarded as a member who has gone beyond technical knowledge to show mastery of the art and science of photography   Nikonian since 05th May 2002
Fri 28-Jun-13 02:46 AM | edited Fri 28-Jun-13 02:48 AM by walkerr

That is not true. Those programs use their own raw conversion engines. The update you're referring to is for iPhoto and Aperture. They also don't use any utility within Windows.

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#10. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 9

pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Sat 29-Jun-13 04:06 AM | edited Sat 29-Jun-13 04:08 AM by pjonesCET

Did you notice and the end "...... others." As for on PC's I was not aware Windows did not provide the Raw Files like Apple does.

I have tried DxO and at some point I will buy it. I do in fact own DxO ViewPoint and it doesn't call up the Adobe Converter it opens the files directly.

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#11. "RE: Raw (NEF) and Photoshop CS3" | In response to Reply # 10

walkerr Administrator Awarded for his con tributed articles published at the Resources Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in multiple areas Donor Ribbon awarded for his very generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Master Ribbon awarded as a member who has gone beyond technical knowledge to show mastery of the art and science of photography   Nikonian since 05th May 2002
Sat 29-Jun-13 12:12 PM

I run on Macs, so I'm keenly aware of how these programs and the operating system works. I actually have them on my system. I think this has ceased being a useful discussion.

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