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D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual.

aienco

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aienco Registered since 24th Jan 2013
Tue 05-Feb-13 03:47 AM

Hello to all.

I recently bought a D3200 just to introduce myself into DSLR video..

Can someone shed some light on what is happening here?? I set the camera to full manual mode. ISO 200 1/50 shutter F3.5 good low noise picture providing lighting is right..

NOW in S mode, aperture priority. I set the camera in the menu to ISO manual. I then set the iso to 100, F3.5 1/50th.. Virtually the same settings. YET Noise level is horrible and something?? don't know what is letting heaps more light in, like selecting a higher ISO, but the camera is still showing me an ISO of 100. What is going on here??

Any advice welcome.

blw

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#1. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 0

blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Tue 05-Feb-13 06:54 AM

Presumably S mode you mean shutter priority.

> Virtually the same settings. YET Noise level is horrible

The obvious question is whether or not the light level is similar. ISO 100 and ISO 200 is a full stop different. Depending on light level, that can be material.

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aienco

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#2. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 1

aienco Registered since 24th Jan 2013
Tue 05-Feb-13 07:56 AM

>Presumably S mode you mean shutter priority.
>
>> Virtually the same settings. YET Noise level is horrible
>
>The obvious question is whether or not the light level is
>similar. ISO 100 and ISO 200 is a full stop different.
>Depending on light level, that can be material.

Which ever it is that sets the aperture automatically .. no different with exactly same settings. Just learned that it sets iso automatically in all but manual mode..

Makes this camera really bad for video because you must come out of live viewer change aperture and shutter should stay on 1/50 for video so in manual mode you have very little control! No sure what Nikon was thinking there

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#3. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 2

blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Tue 05-Feb-13 10:59 AM

You didn't even address the most critical question: is the light exactly the same?

ISO 100 and ISO 200 are NOT the same.

I am not a videographer - in fact I know essentially nothing about it - but I can guess that the reason that ISO changes automatically is that it can be done completely silently by the camera. Changing shutter or aperture means a physical change, and one that can make itself apparent on the resulting video, either by literally hearing the controls or by causing camera shake.

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#4. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 3

grnzbra Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Sep 2011
Tue 05-Feb-13 12:32 PM

Don't know if this will apply but you might want to look into it. When I was trying to figure out why my point and shoot gave me much better pix than my 5100, I found that with the build in flash, the 5100 ran the ISO straight to 3200. There is a setting on the 5100 that limits how high the camera can set the ISO on its own. Don't know if the 3200 has this but you might want to look into it. It might just do the same thing with video. Or, perhaps you set the shutter speed so high that the lens, at wide open, doesn't let in enough light so the only other thing the camera can do is adjust the ISO.
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pjonesCET

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#5. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 4

pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Tue 05-Feb-13 03:07 PM

Yes you can set a minimum and Maximum ISO. on the 3200

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aienco

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#6. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 5

aienco Registered since 24th Jan 2013
Tue 05-Feb-13 09:14 PM

No, I found a whole thread on this in another forum.. It is the way they have done it on the 3200 and the 5200 as well. A lot of very annoyed people, including me.. Whether you set the iso on manual or not, during video it is always on auto. The only way it will be manual ISO is if you set the camera to full manual. So any other setting, IE. S or A, the ISO is set automatically.

The other thing that many of us are really annoyed about is that with the 3200 and this is the same on the 5200 because I thought of upgrading, you cannot change the aperture during video even in FULL MANUAL MODE, this would have been acceptable.. You MUST come out of Live view to change the Aperture. Totally useless. I can now see why every one buys the Canon for video.. Nikon are loosing heaps of customers because of it.. Really stupid move by them. I will keep the 3200 but will be buying a Canon for video.. Not really impressed though...

grnzbra

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#7. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 6

grnzbra Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Sep 2011
Wed 06-Feb-13 03:33 PM

How about setting the limit on how high the camera can set the ISO? Can you do that for video? That might help with the noise problem. At least until you get the Canon. All of the video that I've done with the 5100 has been in sunlight, so I've never seen it in video, only using the built in flash for stills.

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#8. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 7

aienco Registered since 24th Jan 2013
Wed 06-Feb-13 09:29 PM

THIS CANNOT BE DONE... THIS FEATURE WILL NOT EFFECT VIDEO..

mareng

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#9. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 4

mareng Registered since 14th Jan 2013
Tue 05-Mar-13 05:24 PM | edited Tue 05-Mar-13 05:25 PM by mareng

I have the D3100 and assume the D3200 is almost identical apart from the Mpa.
Set your camera to Manual exposure, your ISO to Manual and a suitable value for conditions along with Aperture and Shutter speed.
Take a stills photo of the area you are going to video as a check for sufficient light. If image comes out ok, go into video mode without changing any settings.
Set Picture Control
F # ISO
1.4-2.8 200
4-5.6 400-640
8-11 800-1200
16-32 1600+
J. Dennis Thomas in his book recommends using Manual or Aperature Priority and set the Aperature using the command dial. The shutter in video is electronic and is operated by the camera alone not user.
He recommends using the Exposure Compensation and command dial to alter exposure during filming. The camera chooses the ISO settings for you.
You can also use the AE-L and lock it,to set the Exposure before going to Live View.
Using a smaller aperture will slow down the shutter speed and give a smoother video. Pan slowly.
Hope this helped.
Don't give up on Nikon yet, but find out how to use the camera in video mode.
If you use the camera in Portrait you need free downloadable software to turn your video images, called VIDEOSOFT.
To change to DVD or .WMV from Quicktime use CONVERTALITE free downloadable. Do it in this order.

Good luck.
Mareng

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#10. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 9

aienco Registered since 24th Jan 2013
Tue 05-Mar-13 09:40 PM

>I have the D3100 and assume the D3200 is almost identical
>apart from the Mpa.
>Set your camera to Manual exposure, your ISO to Manual and a
>suitable value for conditions along with Aperture and Shutter
>speed.
>Take a stills photo of the area you are going to video as a
>check for sufficient light. If image comes out ok, go into
>video mode without changing any settings.
>Set Picture Control
>F # ISO
>1.4-2.8 200
>4-5.6 400-640
>8-11 800-1200
>16-32 1600+
>J. Dennis Thomas in his book recommends using Manual or
>Aperature Priority and set the Aperature using the command
>dial. The shutter in video is electronic and is operated by
>the camera alone not user.
>He recommends using the Exposure Compensation and command dial
>to alter exposure during filming. The camera chooses the ISO
>settings for you.
>You can also use the AE-L and lock it,to set the Exposure
>before going to Live View.
>Using a smaller aperture will slow down the shutter speed and
>give a smoother video. Pan slowly.
>Hope this helped.
>Don't give up on Nikon yet, but find out how to use the camera
>in video mode.
>If you use the camera in Portrait you need free downloadable
>software to turn your video images, called VIDEOSOFT.
>To change to DVD or .WMV from Quicktime use CONVERTALITE free
>downloadable. Do it in this order.
>
>Good luck.
>Mareng


I'll give it a try. But I really wanted to be able to leave the shutter at 1/50 and have it not change. Either way, I havent given up yet. I have had a chance to compare it to the Canon 650d which four write up say it is better in video mode. It may be better to use in video mode, but all I can say about the picture quality in video mode and photo mode, compared to the Nikon is, it is ####. I am a bit tired of all the write ups. They always say one is better than the other and when I base my purchase on this info, I am always disappointed. I am glad I went for the Nikon even though the write ups said Canon.

aienco

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#11. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 9

aienco Registered since 24th Jan 2013
Tue 05-Mar-13 11:50 PM

I must be doing something wrong cause altering the exposure compensations does absolutely nothing?

pjonesCET

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pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Wed 06-Mar-13 01:33 PM

Stop Shouting we are just users your shouting at the Choir.

Set the limits as suggested before you start recording.

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mareng

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#13. "RE: D3200 Video mode, Aperture Priority and Manual." | In response to Reply # 11

mareng Registered since 14th Jan 2013
Wed 06-Mar-13 04:01 PM

Alenco,
Just been into Watersons bookshop here in England and found a couple of books on the D3200.
There is the Dummies series but also one by Jon Sparks D3200 (Expanded Guide) ISBN 978-1-90770-894-7, £14.99 or US$19.95 by Ammonite Press.com. I spent a bit of time reading about the videoing on that camera, he gives you the down side but how to get around it. Well put together book (includes tear out gray cards at the back)with photos and "how to".
If you are going to keep your D3200 I would certainly recommend you buying a book for it as the info provided by manufacturers are limited to telling you the names of the buttons, not guiding you through the full use of the camera.
A website I would recommend that is generic but he uses Nikon cameras is Mike Browne Photographer (google the name and it should come up), excellent short videos on using a dSLR.
Good Luck, don't give up, they are good cameras.

Mareng

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