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billcavanagh

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billcavanagh Registered since 05th Jun 2009
Thu 31-Jan-13 12:20 AM

I am going to buy a new camera shortly.

Question D5200 or D7000? Your thoughts please.

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JosephK

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#1. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

JosephK Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006
Thu 31-Jan-13 12:30 AM

What criteria should we be using to judge the differences?

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billcavanagh

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#2. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 1

billcavanagh Registered since 05th Jun 2009
Thu 31-Jan-13 01:17 AM

Photography. Image quality. Flexibility. I do have some AF-D lenses so the motor is an advantage.

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avm247

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#3. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 2

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Thu 31-Jan-13 04:01 AM | edited Thu 31-Jan-13 04:05 AM by avm247

I have not ready any reviews on the D5200. D7000 is a great camera but is getting a bit long in production...I wonder if there will be a replacement announcement soon. Not sure...

If you want AF compatibility, then you want the D7000. The D5200 will only AF with AF-S or AF-I lenses. You can still MF with the lens and meter with the D5200, but most AF lenses leave something to be desired when manually focused.


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MEMcD

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#4. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 2

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Thu 31-Jan-13 08:57 PM

Hi Bill,

Given that the D5200 doesn't have an AF motor built into the body and it has a penta-mirror finder instead of the brighter penta-prism finder in the D7000, the D7000 would better fit your requirements.
If you are not in a rush to upgrade, you might want to wait for the D7000 replacement that should be in development.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

jec6613

Norwalk, US
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#5. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

jec6613 Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Feb 2013
Wed 13-Feb-13 04:45 AM

I wrote this out elsewhere:

D5200 Pros:
- Very slightly better low light performance.
- Higher resolution.
- Light weight.
- Articulated display.
- Better video modes.
- Mounts pre-AI lenses (read: very old manual focus).

D7000 Pros:
- More physical control points, including a sub command dial.
- Magnesium body (D5200 is plastic).
- Some weather sealing.
- AF fine tuning.
- Metering with manual focus lenses.
- Optional battery grip.
- Longer battery life.
- Higher speed continuous drive.
- Deeper effective buffer (smaller file size).
- Dual SD card slots.
- Can autofocus with all AF lenses, not just AF-S.

My answer: a D7000 wins, for now. The next generation D7x00 series will I'm sure be still better, but it's not out yet.

eskil23

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#6. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 2

eskil23 Registered since 04th Dec 2012
Fri 15-Feb-13 02:39 PM

> I do have some AF-D lenses so the motor is an advantage.

Well, that factor cloeses the deal. D7000 for you. The D5200 does not have any AF-motor.

RockyIII

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#7. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

RockyIII Gold Member Nikonian since 27th May 2006
Fri 15-Feb-13 02:47 PM | edited Fri 15-Feb-13 02:55 PM by RockyIII

The D7000 is a great camera, but I ordered a D5200 for the lighter weight. I prefer smaller and lighter, but not so tiny that it is difficult to hold. A D5200 with 35mm lens is not much heavier than a Fujifilm X-E1 with a 18-55mm lens.

Rocky

hardykel80

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#8. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

hardykel80 Registered since 01st Mar 2013
Fri 01-Mar-13 07:18 AM

It depends on your photography needs. I would personally recommend the Nikon D5200 as an 'advanced beginner's camera' and a good option for sports/action photography. It is lighter than the D7000 while having some of its best features. The D5200 has got excellent reviews in the short time since it was released.

I wrote an in-depth review on the Nikon D5200 dslr, including a comparison with other rivals and alternatives, as well as lens recommendations, based on actual user feedback. You can check it out at http://www.squidoo.com/D5200-nikon-dslr-price-and-review. I hope that helps you in your decision!

Alfred70

San Antonio, US
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#9. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

Alfred70 Registered since 12th Dec 2012
Fri 01-Mar-13 04:37 PM

Remove the period after the above link otherwise you get a connection error.

Interesting review. Two points that caught my eye are:

You must exit Live View to set apperture. This seems like quite a limitation.

I don't quite understand the statement:
While it has the VR (Vibration Reduction) feature, the Nikon D5200 body does not have built-in image stabilization.

What is the VR feature that the D5200 has?

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pjonesCET

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#10. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

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Fri 01-Mar-13 07:43 PM

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Alfred70

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#11. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 10

Alfred70 Registered since 12th Dec 2012
Fri 01-Mar-13 10:41 PM

The correct liknk is:

http://www.squidoo.com/D5200-nikon-dslr-price-and-review


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MEMcD

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#12. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 9

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Sat 02-Mar-13 05:35 PM

Hi Alfred,

>I don't quite understand the statement:
> While it has the VR (Vibration Reduction) feature,
>the Nikon D5200 body does not have built-in image
>stabilization.
>
>What is the VR feature that the D5200 has?

A few other manufacturers (Sony and Pentex) have their Stabilization ( Vibration Reduction) systems built into the camera body.
Both Nikon (VR) and Canon (IS) build their Stabilization systems into the lens.
The D5200 like All Nikon DSLR bodies fully support VR lenses.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

MEMcD

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#13. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Sat 02-Mar-13 11:22 PM

Hi Kelly,

Welcome to Nikonians!
Thanks for the link to your review.

There are a few things in your review that you might want to correct.

The following statement:

..............
"CONS
* It will not auto-focus with any other brand of camera lenses as it is designed to auto-focus with only proprietary Nikon AF-S and AF-1 lenses, which are expensive."................

Is not true. (See below) Also AF-1 should be AF-I.

and your conclusion:

....."While the fact that the Nikon lens mount won't accommodate other-brand lenses, if you have several Nikon lenses and you either need a second camera or a budget-camera with video capabilities, the D5200 is an excellent choice."..................

Is Not Correct!

The D5200 fully supports AF with All Nikon F mount lenses with AF motors built into the lens including: Nikon AF-I and AF-S types as well as third party manufactures:

1. Tamron lenses for Nikon (Built-in AF motors) and/or USD (Ultrasonic Silent Drive).

2. Sigma lenses for Nikon with Built in Motors and or HSM (Hyper Sonic Motors).

3. Tokina lenses for Nikon with Built in Motors and/or DC motor with GMR magnetic AF sensors.

Hope this helps.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

pjonesCET

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#14. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 12

pjonesCET Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Jul 2011
Mon 04-Mar-13 02:05 AM

>Hi Alfred,
>
>>I don't quite understand the statement:
>> While it has the VR (Vibration Reduction)
>feature,
>>the Nikon D5200 body does not have built-in image
>>stabilization.
>>
>>What is the VR feature that the D5200 has?
>
>A few other manufacturers (Sony and Pentax) have their
>Stabilization ( Vibration Reduction) systems built into the
>camera body.
>Both Nikon (VR) and Canon (IS) build their Stabilization
>systems into the lens.
>The D5200 like All Nikon DSLR bodies fully support VR lenses.
>Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

VR stands for Vibration Resistance All SLR/DSL Lens tha have auto focus. regardless of quality tend wobble as the move in or out. Because regardless of mechanical tolerances nothing fits perfectly tight. So there is compensation for that movement.

Image stabilization is where the camera designed to compensate for a person's inability to hold the camera perfectly still. I know of no one that can hand hold a camera perfectly still. Even a camera on Tripod on a windy day , a camera is subject to camera shake. So the need for both

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MEMcD

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#15. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 14

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Mon 04-Mar-13 05:02 AM

Hi Phillip,


>VR stands for Vibration Resistance

VR stands for Vibration Reduction.

>All SLR/DSL Lens that have
>auto focus. regardless of quality tend wobble as the move in
>or out.

While the entry level lenses like the 18-55mm and 55-200mm change length when zooming and have front elements that rotate and move out when focusing, the top tier lenses feature internal focusing (IF) so the front elements do not move or rotate and many of the zooms don't change length when changing focal length. They are also built using metal to much tighter tollerances and do not wobble when zooming or focusing.

>Because regardless of mechanical tolerances nothing
>fits perfectly tight. So there is compensation for that
>movement.

VR was not designed to compensate for loose mechanical tolerances in the lens.

Keep in mind that even in Continuous AF (AF-C) mode the AF system locks focus when the shutter is released.

>Image stabilization is where the camera designed to compensate
>for a person's inability to hold the camera perfectly still. I
>know of no one that can hand hold a camera perfectly still.
>Even a camera on Tripod on a windy day , a camera is subject
>to camera shake. So the need for both

Nikon: VR (Vibration Reduction)
Canon: IS (Image Stabilization)
Sigma: OS (Optical Stabilization)
Tamron: VC (Vibration Compensation)

VR=IS=OS=VC

They are different acronyms and names for similar systems that perform the same function.
In other words, different names for the same feature that does the same thing.

All of these systems were designed to compensate for user induced movement (handshake) by mechanically moving an element or group of elements inside the lens using peizo motors to keep the optical axis perpendicular to the sensor plane.
While some of the Supertelephotos have VR with tripod mode most of the lenses with VR don't have tripod mode.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

hardykel80

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#16. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

hardykel80 Registered since 01st Mar 2013
Mon 04-Mar-13 10:42 AM

Sorry, I posted the wrong link. You can take a look at a product comparison here at http://ceejay1980.hubpages.com/hub/Nikon-D5200-price-and-review


>It depends on your photography needs. I would personally
>recommend the Nikon D5200 as an 'advanced beginner's camera'
>and a good option for sports/action photography. It is lighter
>than the D7000 while having some of its best features. The
>D5200 has got excellent reviews in the short time since it was
>released.
>
>I wrote an in-depth review on the Nikon D5200 dslr, including
>a comparison with other rivals and alternatives, as well as
>lens recommendations, based on actual user feedback. You can
>check it out at
>http://www.squidoo.com/D5200-nikon-dslr-price-and-review. I
>hope that helps you in your decision!

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#17. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 16

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Mon 04-Mar-13 12:45 PM

Hi Kelly,

In this review in the "Verdict" you wrote:

"........... While the fact that the Nikon lens mount won't accommodate other-brand lenses, ........"

That is NOT TRUE!

There are several third party lens (Brands)manufacturers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, Zeiss) that make lenses with the Nikon F mount that work perfectly on the D5200 or any other Nikon DSLR. See my post above for the third party lenses that fully support AF when mounted on the D5200.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

hardykel80

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#18. "RE: D5200 or D7000" | In response to Reply # 17

hardykel80 Registered since 01st Mar 2013
Mon 11-Mar-13 10:25 AM

Thanks for the correction. I appreciate your taking the time out to read the review.

G