Hi I have a D300 and mostly FX lenses, (17-35,24-70, 84 1.4, 70-200) with one DX 70-300. I love taking photos of children etc and sport, mainly equestrian events, the D300 is great for the equestrian events but in poor light struggles sometimes and I hate using it at 800 ISO and above, which I had to quite a bit on a recent trip to India.
I have been hanging out for a D400 for the past year as I want a camera with better ISO capabilities, but so far nothing seems to be on the horizon.
Do you think a D700 would give me enough benefit in the ISO department to make a change? I could buy a D600 or D800, but do not want the mega pixels of the D800 as I shoot in RAW and I am put off buying a D600. I am also worried about camera shake with the D800 as I am now in my 60's...
So I thought a nicely used D700 might be the ticket, ie not very expensive at the moment...
#1. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 0
First the 70-300VR is a lens that works fine on both FX and DX cameras.
I never owned the D300, but I did own a D90 which had similar ISO performance (some thought slightly better) and I also wouldn't go over 800 ISO with it. With the D7000 I replaced my D90 with I would shoot up to 1600 ISO comfortably. I found myself, however, needing to shoot indoors more often in poor lighting often needing to go to 3200-6400 ISO and the D7000 just wasn't giving me the performance I needed.
I can tell you that I would comfortably shoot the D700 at 6400 ISO. Above that you can still get very usable smaller images for web pages, etc. I would print anything I shoot at 6400 though.
Basically my view is that you already have the lenses, and you are used to the control layout and ergonomics of the D700 from using the D300 - this combined with the fact that it will meet your goal of better ISO performance AND it being a very cost effective purchase at this stage makes this a smart purchase in my opinion.
#3. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 2
Thank you so much guys, it is making think I may go this route as there are some good deals on 2nd hand D700's out there and if the D400 comes along have a think. This way I can play with full frame, although for the sporting events it is great to have the extra reach of DX, hence waiting for a D400. But the D300 is great in good light...
#4. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 0
If you don't need the higher resolution, the D700 is the perfect choice. I made the jump last fall and now have the D300 and the D700. With FX lenses, all of the accessories are interchangeable--batteries, chargers, vertical grip, etc. Although the body l-plates are slightly different, they will work. The controls and menus are so close that there's almost nothing new to learn, other than testing out the ISO limits. You should be very pleased. Lee Baylin
#5. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 3 Wed 20-Feb-13 06:33 PM by KenLPhotos
>> it is great to have the extra reach of DX You don't really have extra reach. Using a D700 in DX format or cropping a full frame down to DX size, you have almost the same results. And I said almost - there are many posts here addressing this issue.
#7. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 0
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> .... the D300 is great for >the equestrian events but in poor light struggles sometimes >and I hate using it at 800 ISO and above, which I had to quite >a bit on a recent trip to India.
>Do you think a D700 would give me enough benefit in the ISO >department to make a change?
I shot with both the D300 and D700 for several years. Sold the D300 recently - kept the D700. The D700 has a full stop better high ISO performance over the D300. So if 800 is your max on the D300, you would be happy with 1600 on a D700.
I think you are being a bit conservative with your ISO settings on the D300. I found 1600 to be good and 3200 acceptable. On the D700 I go to 6400. Viewing at 100% does not give a realistic sense of noise levels if the image is to be printed or posted on the web. A 50% view provides a better approximation. You might find you can go higher with the D300.
#9. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 7
I have a D300s and I too cringe at going much higher than 1600. Shooting indoor arenas,trying to freeze the action of a horse ..especially with lots of black clothing and black horses.This is a shot (70-200mm f2.8, at ISO 1600 and all I did was convert raw to jpeg,no adjustments, in ViewNX2 800 pixels on the long side. (even left it at highest quality)I have some others shot at 3200 and since this arena had some nice natural light, if they were in the right part of the arena they are not too bad. I will be using my D700 this year, if I can get to the Expo this weekend.
#10. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 0
I would like to say that I had the unique inspiration to buy a used D700 for low light use, but I'm afraid there are several Nikonians who have done so recently. There seem to be a lot of them with relatively little use, available at a reasonable price, since the D800 came out.
I'm very happy with mine, and if you've got mostly FX lenses, I'd say you're on the right track.
#12. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 11
One thing to remember is that both of Nikon's last releases the D600 (dust) and D800 (left focus point) had 'kinks' upon their release. <<
This might be a topic for a new thread, but I'm not sure where it would go.
Have other Nikon cameras had similar teething pains? I seem to remember a problem with the compression board failing on D70 bodies after many thousands of clicks (I never got there), but otherwise I haven't kept track of developments over the years. I'm just curious if such issues are a common thing that gets worked out in various revisions.
#14. "RE: Help me please..." In response to Reply # 0
The D700 has about a 1.5 stop advantage over the D300 in high ISO performance. The control layout is almost exactly the same as the D300 making it very easy to switch back and fourth between bodies. Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!