I didn't think I'd see a separate D700 section. I don't now if this is a good thing or bad. As others had said in another forum, the D700 had been talked to death and the amount of D700 talk had dropped dramatically. The D800 talk basically brought the D700 forum back to life. So, it'll be interesting how popular the D700 section remains.
#2. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 1
They do seem to be two different animals. But now I have to visit another forum to learn whether or not I need to consider adding a D800 to my arsenal. I know... tough beans! I just hope everyone is happy!
#5. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0 Thu 03-May-12 04:23 PM by Fogtripper
>I didn't think I'd see a separate D700 section. I don't now >if this is a good thing or bad. As others had said in another >forum, the D700 had been talked to death and the amount of >D700 talk had dropped dramatically.
The amount of current chatter is not an indication of existing written knowledge on the body. Nor does it justify burying good information the moment something new comes along.
Basically what happened was akin to someone walking into our house, grabbing our D700 information and scribbling over all of it with D800 information.
My thanks to the admin for finally separating them.
#6. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0
When the topic of a separate D700 forum surfaced, I have to say I didn't care one way or the other. But I've changed my mind. It really is nice to not have to wade through the D800 posts. Good call, Administrators.
#7. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0 Thu 03-May-12 06:29 PM by Hektor
Thanks admins for splitting the two forums. As I stated before, it was not my call to make. On the other hand, I found it extremely excruciating going through the old D700/D800 forum. I'm still wavering about getting or not getting the D800 for a plethora of reasons, either way. The enthusiasm in the old forum was very contagious almost forcing me to reevaluate my decision, time and time again.
#10. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0
Separating them makes sense, to me that are different product lines. As for my D700, just looking to add a second body off the used market. I do not think I will be able to exceed the camera's capabilities anytime soon. That said, I guess the D800 would make a good second body. Thanks to the admininisters for breaking it apart.
#12. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 11
Another thank you. I deleted the D700 forum once it became the D800 and maybe in there somewhere the D700 forum.I had no interest in the D800. I am glad the forum is back as I am. Thanks for the reconsideration. WC
'ITS WHAT YOU LEARN AFTER YOU KNOW IT ALL THAT COUNTS'
#14. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0
I have to agree that this is a good move as I had stopped reading the 700/800 forum. The sifting and sorting through all of the 800 entries was driving me crazy and like someone else mentioned, the D800 is in a different category, period. Even though I've had my D700 for almost 3 years now, I'm still learning new things about this camera almost every day.
#15. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 14
The move to separate D800 from D700 is more than greatly apprectiated. It was such a wonderful surprise to open the email from Nikonians and to one again find D700, exclusively. If anyone thinks the D700 has lost its edge and appeal, just look at the number of posts in this forum. It wasn't that the camera had suddenly diminished in its popularity, the forum had just become overwhelmed by the D800 craze. These are two amazing, versatile cameras that deserve their own separate forums. Thanks for listening and responding. "You'll be old longer than you'll be young, so enjoy"
#16. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0 Fri 04-May-12 09:36 AM by Hektor
I’m also considering the D800/D800E (D800,) but one of my problems are the file sizes. It is not the 75 MB RAW files (14-bit uncompressed,) 36 MB (12-bit lossless compressed,) or the 16 MB JPEG (Fine) it is the ~ 250 MB TIFF files coming out of Photoshop CS6 that is the problem (4 photos = 1 GB.) The only way for me to get the D800 (without upgrading my PC) is to come out of CS6 with a JPEG file (16 MB + 35 MB DNG = 50 MG per photo.) At this time I produce 16 MB DNG + 90 MB TIFF (16-bit) = ~ 100 MB per photo. In order to get the D800, I will have to alter my PP workflow:
1. Import the images to LR 4 (LR.) 2. Select the photos. 3. Use Bridge or MiniBridge (MB) to start with ACR. 4. Take the photo into PS to use the plugins and the many tools. 5. Save the photo in JPEG and import it back into LR. 6. Finish the PP in LR. 7. Publish in SmugMug.
I am in the process of analyzing the new workflow and so far it has not been successful, but needs further experimentation. The same photos using Tiff files (even 8-bit) look so much better. It could be my fault, though.
I realize that I need to upgrade my PC. I have a Dell Tower XPS with dual-core Intel 3 GHz and 8 GB RAM. I’m also running Windows 7 64-bit. I need a quad-core I-7 with at least 16 GB RAM. My motherboard only recognizes 8 GB RAM. IMHO, this is not the time to upgrade when 128-bit bus and processing is just around the corner (if not Win 8, certainly Win 9.) In addition, Solid State Drives (SSD) are coming into their own. If I upgrade now, I will definitely have to upgrade again (128-bit) in two or three years. My only reason for this double upgrade would be the D800. Otherwise, I have more than I need with my present system.
Lastly, to finance the D800, I will have to sell two of my three cameras and it won’t be the D7000 (the one that makes the most sense, but it won’t happen.) Therefore, it has to be the D700 and the X1. There is no way I’m selling the X1. Period. In other words, I will have to sell the D700 and finance or find the money for the remainder.
One powerful reason for getting the D800 is my macro/tabletop, which I consider a complete different system. The D800 would produce stunning results. To me tabletop is inside photography as opposed to outside photography. If I cannot get out, I bring photography in. I’m getting up there in age (63) and my health is not what it used to be. I have diabetes type II with bilateral neuropathy (internal and external.) It is not a big deal, but it makes me, sometimes and not all the time, a bit unstable especially on uneven ground. I did rush the Gitzo 1541 as a consequence and I hate tripods.
Lastly, the D800 seems to excel in B&W. There is no need to get a monochrome only sensor camera.
I won’t do anything before this September. I have to see what Leica will do with their rumored mirror-less camera and new lens system that will be priced between the X1 and M9 - also the rumored Nikon D600. On the other hand, I do not have to do anything. My beloved D700 is better than good . In other words, I’m very lucky and fortunate to have the D700, D7000, and X1. Instead of wishing, lusting, and praying for the D800 (especially the M9 with only three lenses ,) I should thank my lucky stars.
For the above reasons, I do not want to visit the D800 forum. It is hard enough for me without reading, time and time again: “WOW, what a camera, look at the details, best decision I ever made, best camera in this universe and the next one.”
THANK YOU FOR THE D700 FORUM!!!
PS: I forgot to include the following, which I consider very important. There is another way that I will get the D800: if Nikon introduces Capture NX3. It was rumored a year ago that NX3 would include all the Nik Software plugins except for Color Efex Pro 4, which would be sold separately. I would be able to handle NEF files without getting out of NX3. However, I gave up. NX2, LR2, and CS4 were co-generational. We now have LR4 and CS6 and still NX2, which is completely dated. NX2 is basically built on Viveza 1 and Viveza 2 is superior. IMHO, Nikon has to support NX or get out of the software market making NEF open-architecture, like Leica with DNG format and LR. The latter is Leica's Raw converter.
#21. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 20
Something else to note, the D700 hasn't stopped selling, there are still some new ones out there and many folks buying the D800/D800E/D4 are selling their D700's to new D700 owners, so potentially there could be at least the same amt of owners or even more out there.
'ITS WHAT YOU LEARN AFTER YOU KNOW IT ALL THAT COUNTS'
#23. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 22 Mon 07-May-12 02:46 AM by musical
I echo some others and the d800 messages were not as enjoyable for me since I cannot afford the (well, admittedly interesting) newer camera. I smile at the light humor, too, "just me and the old 700 trying to keep the relationship alive." Seriously, I am enjoying the 700 forum with renewed interest and I do hope to keep my silver membership this upcoming year. ... Ps, To Perry (post #4) I'll probably never see the Galapagos Islands. I have been to Rio, and the Panama canal 4xs. Lovely photos; hey, and you could have picked up a d800 just for a back-up camera? heh heh. I'm being funny. Over & out. Sincerely, james
#26. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 16
My attempts to go with JPEG out of CS6 were unsuccessful. The photos in Tiff files are superior. I did attempt to stay in LR and DNG, but it is unacceptably and painfully slow. In order to post process DNG in LR only, I have to upgrade the PC now (I am referring to the Graduating Filter and Adjustment Brush tools.) Therefore, I have to come out from CS6 with Tiff files. The D800 is out of the question, at this time or in September.
#27. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0
I am glad to see this even though after all the discussion, I could live with them combined. I will still subscribe to both forum so that I can keep on the latest camera discussions...it nice though to keep the two cameras separated. Thanks to everyone and Nikonians.
jdroach, a Milwaukee area and sometimes Chicago area Nikonian.
#29. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 0
I'm glad for the change. I bought my D700 used after the D800 was announced. I'm sure I'm one amongst many new D700 users. It is still Nikon's entry level full frame camera body and is down right affordable right now.
#35. "RE: Wow, a D700 only forum" In response to Reply # 29
I'm with you. The D800 release, and the resulting D700 used market allowed me to get into full frame at a great price, with a great camera. Moreover, it also allowed me to come over to Nikon! Loving the camera so far, but need to beef up my Nikon glass.