I have a D800 on order from Amazon since March 23. While I have been waiting, I started thinking about why I am so interested in the D800. I come from using a D7000 about 1 1/2 years ago (my first DSLR). I mostly take pictures of my family and friends and an occasional basketball game, but I have recently got interested in landscapes. So I came to the conclusion that I just got caught up in the hype of the D800 and it really isn't the camera for me. I think it is a great camera, but I just don't need the high MP count. I also don't have the glass to get the most out of the D800. And I figured that I should save a few bucks so that I could invest the money into better glass. I know that I do want to go full frame just because it will pair up nicely with my interest in landscapes.
So I feel like I have two options. One is to see what else comes out this year or early next year. Two is the D700. So I'm thinking that the rumored D600 sounds interesting to me. It sounds like a full frame version of the D7000, except without the AF motor. That is fine with me.
The D700 sounds like a good choice as well. There are just a couple of things that I'm worried about. I have never used a D700, so I'm not totally familiar with it. I'm wondering if the 12MP is going to limit me. I am coming from a 16MP camera. And while I understand that MP count isn't a huge deal when getting good pictures, I do crop quite a bit. So I'm worried that I may need more MP so that I won't lose too much detail when I crop. Also, I'm going to have this camera for a long time I hope (I'm basically going to start building my glass collection after getting my body). I'm hoping that the technology in the camera isn't too outdated. I don't do large prints now, but I was hoping to make some large prints of my photos one day soon in the future.
So right now I'm trying to figure out if I want to go with the D700 while I can still get a good deal on a new one or a quality used one, or if I should pass up on the D700 and see what comes out in the near future.
#1. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 0
You pose a good question. I have a D700 and I think it's all the camera I'm going to need for a long time. However, you are good to question the D700 choice if you are used to heavily cropping a D7000 image for your final results.
I find the 12MP adequate for all of my work which includes some full fame printing. I do heavily crop the D700 frame for the web and for 8x10 images with good results and landscapes figure in a lot of what I do.
However, you are going to loose the crop factor and that may mean new lenses - I don't know if you've figured that into your post production cropping scenario. With the right lenses, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the D700 to anyone wanting to take quality images, but I'm just not sure how interpret your usage.
I guess if there was anything "profound" I could say to your request, it would be to question whether your proposed moved to FX was really required. From what I read on the surface, it would seem to me that more appropriate glass to meet your landscape and basketball specialties might be a good next step.
Roger It's still, ISO, aperture and shutter-speed, right?
#2. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 0
I have been using the D700 for three years and the capabilities of this camera continue to amaze me. I don't consider 12MP to be limiting in any way, even with a 30" wide gamut monitor. For landscape photography, I really don't want to have a 36MP camera, since with FX you already can notice an IQ degradation due to diffraction between F/5.6 and F/8, while with a 12MP camera this only occurs between F/11 and F/16.
In your present situation I suggest that you get a wa lens that is suitable for landscape. If you don't need filters, the Nikon 14-24/2.8 is an excellent choice; it is sufficiently wide for use with a DX camera. Then wait a year and see what kinds of FX bodies are available.
#3. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 2
Let's put it this way, I use a D700 for all my landscape work and some portrait too. It is still one of the best Nikons ever made in my and many others view. I print comfortably to 16x12 ins and often to 20x16, the results are remarkable. Its ability to produce low noise images and its high frame rate especially with the MD10 makes it far and away still a Nikon icon in my view. The superlatives could continue, but when having to make a choice for landscape it's an easy decision. Used with a 24-70 and 70-200 lens it really comes into its own.
I also have a D7000 which is my long lens wildlife camera and accepting the extra 1.5 reach it's a good camera, but against a D700 there's no competition in my view. Although as said the 14-24 works well on it too.
I think you will gather I am a bit of a fan of the D700
#4. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 2
Seattle, WA, US
I am going to echo Tristan.
From your description of what you shoot, your D7000 is a fine choice. If you want some WA lenses for landscapes, go that route. If you are doing lots of cropping, you probably need some longer lenses for those shots.
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#5. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 0
I recently bought a D700. It is a great camera. I kept my trusty D300, also a great camera. The 300 will be used for wildlife and the 700 for most other situations. I am amazed about the performing in bad light of the 700. I also thought about buying the 800, but pricing soon made me decide towards the 700. I invested my money in better glass. If you have no other subjects than family, landscapes and occasional sports the 7000 sounds like a great camera to me. In my opinion you don't need a new camera. Better lenses is something you might want to buy.
#6. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 5
Investing in pro lenses is extremely sensible considering the cameras you have. I did this and never regretted it, besides which lenses are ageless and worth proportionally more than a camera in years to come.
#7. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 0
South Barrington, US
Unless you are into video then the D700 should have plenty of technology to keep anyone happy for years to come. I have a D300, 7000 and the 700. I prefer shooting with the D700. The images have a quality that is deeper, richer and smoother (in my opinion) to those from either of the other two cameras. Add the battery grip and you get a good framrate The money saved can be invested in good quality lenses. I have done this and the results are well worth it. Have fun deciding!
#10. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 9
That was the route i took a few weeks ago. I do own a D90 and was looking for a good used D700, and found it (under 8000 clicks). Now on the same boat looking for some cash to get an 70-200 2.8 II. I kept my D90 as a backup/long reach and been loving shooting with both. Definetly, the best investment is on an pro glass.
Nikonians!!! My best investment made after my camera!!!
#11. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 10 Tue 22-May-12 06:23 PM by KazeyBunch
Fort Worth, US
YES! Definitely a lot of hype over the D800, but I haven’t fallen for it. I'm sure it's an amazing body, but the D700 is all the camera I need. I plan on buying a second one as a backup. I shoot a D700 professionally on sports, urban, portraiture and nature with 14-24, 24-70 & 70-200mm high-end Sigma & Nikkor glass. I print up to 16x24 with amazing quality (capture in RAW, process in ACR, convert to TIFF) and no worries about viewing distance - and can go bigger if I need to. The D700 is basically a D800 without video. The D700 also gives you a choice of DX or FX framing – a nice tool if I want a bit more “reach” with my 200 for in-camera cropping. I’d rather have a full frame 12MP than a cropped 16MP any day. The full frame yields better overall quality, low light performance, and dynamic range. The D700 is versatile, reliable and sturdy. There’s a reason it’s the official camera of the US military. For the shooting scenarios you describe however, the D7000 seems adequate. But if you’re going to invest in high-end glass, consider the FX vs. DX formatting, as not all lenses work on both. So plan ahead. In addition to used, watch for refurbished D700s and open box deals. I got mine for a steal because the box was open. Cheers.
#12. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 11
Fort Worth, US
Fort Worth Camera had a gently used D700 in stock the last time I was in there. I wanted it, but bought glass instead. I'm betting they'd ship it to you. 817-335-3456 www.fortworthcamera.com Good peeps there. My favorite local store.
#13. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 0
Berwyn Heights, US
I've had the D700 since about 3 months after it came out. I don't feel like it's outdated at all. It's still up there regarding high ISO performance and at 12mps, I've been published and printed large gallery sized prints--even with some cropping. I've been doing paid work for six years now, and I don't feel limited in any way with the D700.
#14. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 13
I've had my D700 since 2008 and a D7000 for about a year, I like a 2 body system and these 2 babies cover all my needs. I've not been seduced by the D800 and can live without the enormous file sizes to manage. For sure the D700 is my favourite camera of all time and it didn't go from being the best camera ever to a useless one overnight when the D800 was announced for sure !!
#16. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 14
Wow. Glad I stumbled on this thread. It was like I was listening to myself ask questions. The originator of this thread sounded like me a bit ago. I own a D7000, ordered a D800, but with it being on b/o for so long (my store said 4 months if you are lucky) I bought a good used D700. I have only taken a few shots with it, but I instantly noticed what one poster said: "deeper, richer, smoother". I want to spend some time with my better glass and the two camera's side by side to see the difference. Certainly the pro-sumer layout and more options for lazy camera days make the D7000 more versatile for point and shoot, but if you are interested in the D700, it is likely that your desires have graduated beyond point and shoot anyway.
#17. "RE: Is the D700 still worth getting?" In response to Reply # 0
Daly City, US
So after looking around for a bit, I managed to find someone local selling a D700 with 9200 actuations and purchased on 8/2009 for $1700. One owner, and the camera looks to be in ezcellent condition. It seems like a very good deal. I'm on my way to check it out tomorrow.