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doc85 Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2008Sat 01-Dec-12 06:27 PM
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"Low light Quandary "
Sat 01-Dec-12 06:28 PM by doc85

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I am sure this has been discussed some time before, but what is the best way to handle the problem where the image displayed on the camera LCD always looks so much better than it does when you open it in a post processing program?

I have been shooting NEF Auto ISO (6400) with my D700 and a f2.8 70-200 lens at a lot of low light entertainment events in a large room (100 + people) in a retirement home and when I glance at the LCD they look great, but post processing in Capture Nx2 they appear under exposed. Often by a stop or two.

I understand - use the histogram to evaluate the exposure, but is there some way to preset Capture Nx2 to reproduce the same bright image I see on the camera?

I could use flash, but that seems to bother a lot of those old folks.
Thanks Doc 85 (really 89)

  

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JosephK Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006Sat 01-Dec-12 06:59 PM
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#1. "RE: Low light Quandary "
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The first thing I do in a low light environment is to turn down the brightness of the LCD.

If you are using Capture Nx2, its initial loading of the NEF should look like it did on the LCD since Capture uses all the camera settings in the file to display the initial image.

can you post an example NEF file?

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doc85 Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2008Sat 01-Dec-12 09:57 PM
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#2. "RE: Low light Quandary "
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Right after I had your post I had to take some shots of a group of carolers. I turned the brightness down on the lcd as you suggested and that made a big difference. the images on my iMac with CNx2 looked much more as they did on the lcd.
f2.8,iso6400 PP in CNX2.
Thanks for your advice it helped and I did not have to adjust the exposure just tweak the WB crop a bit and apply a little noise reduction PP.

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

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dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006Sat 01-Dec-12 10:00 PM
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#3. "RE: Low light Quandary "
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Is your computer monitor calibrated?

If not it should be if you need to make prints or distribute images electronically.

As Joseph said, you should reduce the brightness of the cameras LCD.

If you were to just adjust CNX or your monitor to look like your cameras LCD then you are likely to get dark prints and the images will still look dark on other people’s computers.

>> “I understand - use the histogram to evaluate the exposure...

How does the histogram look on these images?

At high ISO you should be exposing as bright as possible (histogram biased to the right) without blowing highlights in order to reduce noise.

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dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006Sat 01-Dec-12 10:02 PM
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Nice shot! You posted this while I was typing my post below.

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doc85 Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2008Sat 01-Dec-12 11:02 PM
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No, my iMac monitor is not calibrated. Here is a iPhone shot of the histogram for the ;picture above.

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

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dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006Sat 01-Dec-12 11:47 PM
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That looks like a pretty good exposure for that image. The peak on the left is due to the dark cloths they have on.

That’s pretty good shooting in a difficult situation!

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doc85 Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2008Sun 02-Dec-12 12:03 AM
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Thanks Dave. It really helped me to lower the brightness on the camera LCD.
I have often wondered do you have to recalibrate a computer monitor when ever the ambient light changes?

  

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dm1dave Administrator Awarded for high level knowledge and skills in various areas, most notably in Wildlife and Landscape Nikonian since 12th Sep 2006Sun 02-Dec-12 01:34 AM
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A lot of the calibration units stay plugged into the computer and measure the ambient light every few minutes and adjusts the display as needed.

Many people doing critical work have their image editing computer in a room with controlled lighting.

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doc85 Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2008Mon 03-Dec-12 12:17 AM
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Interesting thanks, I don't think I can justify the cost of one of those but I can see how calibration would be a benefit.

  

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gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005Mon 03-Dec-12 07:20 PM
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#10. "RE: Low light Quandary "
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The brightness of the LCD and the monitor is sort of independent of the image's brightness. The brightness of the LCD is controlled on the camera and the monitor's brightness is set on the monitor and only affect the display of the image, not how bright or light the image will print or look on other's computers, eRaders, phones, tablets, etc.

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doc85 Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2008Mon 03-Dec-12 07:47 PM
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#11. "RE: Low light Quandary "
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Got it, thanks. Eventually it might come down to how bright the shutter pusher is?

  

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