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Chuckv Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Mar 2009Wed 27-Apr-11 12:05 PM
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"Getting the correct "View""
Wed 27-Apr-11 12:08 PM by Chuckv

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I use ViewNX2 as the first step, and then Transfer to move the NEF pictures over to my hard drive. The problem is that ViewNX2 renders the pictures much darker and saturated than when I pull them up in Capture NX2 for the editing. Even after that is done, and the modified file is saved and viewed in VNX2 again in NEF or JPG, I get the same results, too dark and appears to be over saturated. It would seem that if both pieces of software are produced by Nikon, you should get the same results from the viewing side. It appears that other viewers (CS5, CNX2, Picasa, MicroSoft, FastStone) are more correct than ViewNX2. I looked for a way to adjust the setting in ViewNX2, but I must be missing something.

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberWed 27-Apr-11 01:10 PM
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#2. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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I would check to make sure both VNX2 and CNX2 are set to display photos in sRGB color space. And that no matter what color mode/space setting you used on the camera, the programs override the setting and force sRGB. This should make both programs render the initial NEF correctly. This is the same cautionary step that I've been using since Nikon View 5 and Capture 3 (the predecessors of the current NX2 suites).

For ViewNX2, I believe it's in the Preferences menu, but I'm away from my desktop editing PC at the moment.

By the way, did that information about the VNX2 batch conversion help?

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Chuckv Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Mar 2009Wed 27-Apr-11 01:27 PM
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#3. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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Nikon sRGB is what is selected in place of the embedded information in both VNX2 and CNX2 now, but was not before. I would have thought since that was defaulted, that was the way to go. Having done that now, viewing the file in VNX2 ia still much darker! I am still missing something.....?

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Chuckv Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Mar 2009Wed 27-Apr-11 01:31 PM
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#4. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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Armando,

I really appreciated the info on the batch piece, it cleared it up

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberWed 27-Apr-11 02:43 PM
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#5. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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Chuck - a couple of other places to check:

What is your computer's default display value set to in terms of color space? If it's anything other than a variation of sRGB (and it will have the terms "sRGB" in the title/description field), then you may have some other color space set that's causing the difference.

An even quicker check - do you have a second PC that you can install VNX2 on? Maybe a quick comparison to eliminate the program itself as the cause?

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Chuckv Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Mar 2009Wed 27-Apr-11 02:59 PM
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#6. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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A good point, but I checked those and it appears they are set to sRGB.

But, if it was set to something else, wouldn't all programs respond the same?

Chuck

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberWed 27-Apr-11 06:21 PM
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#7. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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Yep, the other programs' output would be influenced by the color space that the PC is driving, but I've seen some strange situations where it was the culprit. I'll have to check it out when I'm back at my PC later...

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter MemberThu 28-Apr-11 02:04 AM
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#8. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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I don't see a whole lot I can change or point to in VNX2. The only thing I can suggest is the checkbox in Edit-Options-Color Management that reads "Thumbnail - apply color management settings to Thumbnails."

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Chuckv Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Mar 2009Thu 28-Apr-11 02:33 AM
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#9. "RE: Getting the correct "View""
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I've tried so many changes with the monitor setting inside VNX2, I had VNX2 locking up every time I loaded it up.....

Back to normal! It doesn't like other than HP w2408 settings.

Chuck

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