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Some D800 shots

dm1dave

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Thu 25-Apr-13 05:34 PM

I just picked up a D800 this last week. Of course, the weather was terrible on my first day off, dark, rainy and cold. I took the camera out anyway to see what it could with the flat light. I kept the ISO at 1600 just to see how the detail held up.

D800 | 400VR + TC17E
f/5.6 | 1/4000s | ISO-1600
This one is a very deep crop - as cropped this is a 4MP image.

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f/5 | 1/2000s | ISO-1600 | uncrpped
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f/7.1 | 1/1000s | ISO-1600 | small crop
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f/7.1 | 1/2000s | ISO-1600 | cropped just a bit smaller than the DX frame.
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It appears that, with good exposure, ISO-1600 is as good a ISO-400 on the D300 at the pixel level.













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#1. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

JonK Moderator Awarded for his high level skills and in-depth knowledge in various areas, such as Wildlife, Landscape and Stage Photography Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 03rd Jul 2004
Thu 25-Apr-13 05:46 PM

You are going to really enjoy that camera!

Nice shots, as usual.

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#2. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

cockers Silver Member Nikonian since 25th May 2006
Thu 25-Apr-13 06:05 PM

Nice Dave!!

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dm1dave

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Thu 25-Apr-13 10:34 PM

Thanks Jon!

So far, it really looks promising – I can’t wait to get a chance to get out for some serious shooting.

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dm1dave

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Thu 25-Apr-13 10:34 PM

Thanks Al!

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slopoki1

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Thu 25-Apr-13 11:12 PM

Nice images Dave.
3 looks really nice
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Jim Pearce Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Mar 2004
Thu 25-Apr-13 11:50 PM

I like the coot Dave. Interesting, looking at dxomark results for Screen (pixel level), the D800 has the DR and colour sensitivity of the D300 (at ISO 400) at ISO 1600 but the D800's SNR is 1.3 dB lower even at ISO 800 - and a whopping 4 dB lower at ISO 1600!

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Fri 26-Apr-13 01:03 AM

Thanks Jim! You know it is a slow day when all you can get is coots and geese.

I am very happy with the sensor performance. It looks like I can shoot up to 1600 without a second thought and 3200 with careful exposure.

I was surprised to get any decent detail in the shot of the golden eye. That would have been past my normal cropping limit even with a DX body

In 1.2 or DX crop I get 5FPS and a buffer capacity of 25 shots (1.2 crop) or 30+ shots (DX crop) using a Lexar 400x 16GB card. The buffer should be a few shots deeper and clear faster with the 1000x cards. That is shooting RAW 12 bit lossless compressed.

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Fri 26-Apr-13 01:04 AM

Thanks Rick!

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#9. "That's a scaup Dave!" | In response to Reply # 7

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Fri 26-Apr-13 01:24 AM

Looking forward to seeing more shots Dave, as it'll give us D7100 adopters a good benchmark for comparison.

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Fri 26-Apr-13 01:29 AM

Thanks for the ID – I thought I knew what he was so I didn’t look it up.

I have been impressed with the D7100 shots I have been seeing.

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#11. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 26-Apr-13 02:23 AM


Really nice shots, David.

In the first one, I see some personality in that little smile and visible tongue.





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Fri 26-Apr-13 02:50 AM

Nice shots Dave! Great detail and noise control with the 800, I'm envious! Really like the last goose and the coot. Thank my favorite goes to the goose portrait. Excellent detail, sharpness and exposure in all though. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to seeing you put the new body through its paces.

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Fri 26-Apr-13 03:47 AM | edited Fri 26-Apr-13 03:48 AM by Lunastar

Nice set in "fowl" light, Dave! Couldn't wait for the D400? I know your pain ....

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dm1dave

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Fri 26-Apr-13 02:58 PM

Thanks Dan!

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Fri 26-Apr-13 02:58 PM

Thanks Mike!

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Fri 26-Apr-13 02:59 PM

Thanks Mark! I had to give in to the temptation, it should be a good summer.

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#17. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 26-Apr-13 03:19 PM

Great stuff Dave.

You're going to love the D800. I use it for macro (with the 300f/4 and tubes or the 105 f/2.8) and sports. I shot a late game with daylight/stadium light mix and got clean images even up to ISO 2000.

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#18. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 17

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Fri 26-Apr-13 03:34 PM

Great pics, Dave. I am looking forward to your upcoming shots. I am pretty sure the duck isn't a golden eye, but a Lesser Scaup male.

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#19. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

jim thomas Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Jan 2003
Sat 27-Apr-13 01:51 AM

Very nice! As already said, you are going to love the camera. I am envious of your 400mm f/2.8!

Thanks for sharing. Enjoy.

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#20. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 19

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Sat 27-Apr-13 02:08 AM

A while back you were going to wait and see if the D400 appeared, and if not go for D800.....I guess you decided not to wait. I was in the same boat - borrowed the D800 from the local camera shop and I have to say it is really tempting. Great (easy) transition from the D300s.

Congrats on the new D800 and nice captures.

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#21. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 20

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Sat 27-Apr-13 07:13 AM

Congratulations Dave, a great decision and shows how well it works in poor light. I appreciate the low light difficulties as it's a daily prerequisite for a wildlife photographers life in the UK I'm afraid

<<A while back you were going to wait and see if the D400 appeared, and if not go for D800>>

That's my story too. In the end I bought the D800 as both a replacement for my beloved D700 and in hope it would do a better job for wildlife than my D7000 with the D800's' high pixel count allowing tight crops. I was not disappointed and apart from a lack of fps it does a fabulous job.

However, although I too wanted a D400, I got fed up with the waiting and pounced on the D7100. For wildlife feather detail etc, the lack of the AA filter on the D7100 is a revelation. Now, I have two cameras which do everything I need in bucket loads My desire for a D400 has diminished somewhat. Together both cameras satisfy my every need.

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#22. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 21

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Sat 27-Apr-13 09:28 PM

If u had to choose between the two which would you recommenced me to get- Im aware of the cost variances.



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#23. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

CK Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Apr 2004
Sat 27-Apr-13 11:09 PM

Nice set, Dave. Especially for "practice" shots! As others have said, I'm looking forward to seeing the results of a "serious" outing!! Like you, I got tired of waiting for the D400, but I opted for the 7100 instead. And, again like you, I am looking forward to a spring and summer of some serious shooting.
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Sun 28-Apr-13 01:18 AM

Thanks John!

I also got the R1 close up flash kit. I am looking forward to shooting clos-ups in the garden this spring with the D800.

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Sun 28-Apr-13 01:19 AM

Thanks Dave!

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dm1dave

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Sun 28-Apr-13 01:20 AM

Thanks Jim!

The 400 is awsome but man is it heavy.

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dm1dave

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Sun 28-Apr-13 01:22 AM

Thanks Richard!

It is any easy move from the D300s with some nice control enhancements.

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Sun 28-Apr-13 01:25 AM

Thanks Richard!

A D400 could still be the ultimate wildlife camera. I figured that if one ever come along it will be a great pairing with the D800.

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Sun 28-Apr-13 01:27 AM

Thanks CK!

The stuff being posted with the D7100 is very impressive.

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#30. "RE: Some D800 shots" | In response to Reply # 0

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Mon 29-Apr-13 12:46 AM

Congrats on the D800. Looking forward to seeing more of your shots.

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Mon 29-Apr-13 11:04 AM | edited Mon 29-Apr-13 11:04 AM by nrothschild

Nice preliminary shots, Dave. The D800 vs D7100 is an interesting choice.

Edit: the Coot is particularly impressive!

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Tue 30-Apr-13 03:07 AM

Thank you David!

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Tue 30-Apr-13 03:35 AM | edited Tue 30-Apr-13 03:39 AM by dm1dave

Thanks Neil!

It is hard to get a pleasing coot image – I really liked the water in this one.

The D800 – D7100 is a difficult choice. The images quality of the 7100 is superb, great color even at high ISO and magnificent resolution. The oddly small buffer and the use of only SD cards were big detractors for me as well as some of the control differences.

I had talked to Scott (Bump57) down at L&D-14 – His impressions of the D800 planted the seed that grew into full blown NAS. His eagle shots this year were awesome. He was able to produce images on overcast days that I think would have turned out dull if shot with a D300.

My big concerns about the D800 were the frame rate and the size of distant subjects in the viewfinder. I think the viewfinder issue is not as bad as I had thought it would be. In fact it may help keep me from clipping my subject’s winds.

The frame rate is slow but Scott and other are saying they get more keepers per burst due to the great AF system. I figure that I can shoot in 1.2 crop mode when I need speed and get 5fps (6fps if I get a grip – that’s the same as a D300 without a grip.)

Then reexamining the specs I also realized that the D800 buffer is fairly deep if you shoot 12bit Lossless compressed RAW. Using the CF cards I already have (Lexar 400x 16GB) and shooting 1.2 crop mode I can get a full 5 seconds (25 images) before I hit the buffer limit. Looking at memory card testes it looks like I could add a few frames to that with the 1000x Lexar cards. In DX mode I am getting just over 30 images. That is significantly better buffering than the D300/s and could be more beneficial than the extra 2 FPS.

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