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Two hot shoe devices and alas, only one hot shoe... what to do

jbcrane

Fort Collins, US
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jbcrane Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2006
Mon 20-Aug-12 07:58 PM

Hi Folks,

Hopefully this is a no brainer for someone... I know I've seen it but just can't find it on line now. I need a solution for connecting a second hot-shoe mounted device when shooting my rigs. A scenario might be something like running the SU-800 in the actual F6/D3s hot shoe, but wanting to control the rig remotely with the ML-3 IR receiver. I've dangled it down, but it's too unelagent and uncontrolable for me and I know there's a better way. So to be clear, the second hot shoe mount is expected to be a cold shoe; no electronic functionality. That would come from the 10-pin connector in the above scenario.

Many thanks,
John B. Crane

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OnTERRYo

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jbcrane

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jbcrane Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2006
Mon 20-Aug-12 08:51 PM

Close, but not quite. It looks like that solution covers the electronic contacts of the hot shoe itself, rendering them inoperable.

I just got off the phone with Kevin at Kirk Enterprises and he's invented something clever for me. It's a gadget that will slide onto the "unused" portion of my L-bracket and tighten with a set screw. On it there's a plastic cold shoe that will accomodate the ML-3 transceiver head. Other solutions I've seen have been comparatively bulky and cumbersome, requiring arms attaching somehow to the tripod. This is 2 oz. and about the size of a mounting plate for the camera, and can be easily moved from one angle of the L-bracket to the other, depending on what orientation you're shooting - and from one camera to another (that has the Kirk L-bracket). I'm psyched. It's going to work great on both the D3s and the F6.

Many thanks for your link. If you ever need something like this, give Kevin at Kirk Enterprises a call.

Best regards,
John B. Crane

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JBS101

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JBS101 Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Apr 2009
Mon 20-Aug-12 11:11 PM

Nikon does a bracket specifically for the ML-3.

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jbcrane

Fort Collins, US
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jbcrane Silver Member Nikonian since 20th Aug 2006
Mon 20-Aug-12 11:23 PM

>Nikon does a bracket specifically for the ML-3.
Thanks for the pointer:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/77457-REG/Nikon_4648_Bracket_for_ML_2_3.html/BI/4775/KBID/5289/

It's inexpensive, but based on the reviews it appears to not work well with a L-bracket attached - which is how I use all of my cameras. I can't tell enough from the image they show, but I wonder how well it would accomodate other cold-shoe accessories, like a spirit level - or something of weight/substance like another flash...?
I'm going with my Kirk solution.

Thanks. JBCrane

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blw

Richmond, US
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blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Tue 21-Aug-12 05:14 PM

One of my buddies hauled off and bent up some metal to form a cold shoe that was attached to his Gitzo (which I'd guess is a 1325 or a 3531LS).

I don't use the ML-3 any more, having switched to an RF remote. If I need to use a flash I just let it dangle, but being radio it can easily just attach to anything handy, like Jeff's home-made bracket.

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